NHL Trade deadline

[CZ_]

the deadline is coming around with names such as Forsberg, Sundin an Hossa floating around. Big trade in ottawa today;

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=229406&hubname=
Corvo and Eaves for Commodore and Stillman

I think Ottawa got the best of this one although the trade helps both teams

hopefully this trade triggers more.

[ruker]

In a way I'm hoping the Wings can pickup Rob Blake. But I also know they'd have to give up a good player or some top prospects for him, which I don't want. Either way, the Wings will still look good. :D

[MightyMouse]

If sundin goes to anaheim like the rumour
Sundin for Edmontons first rounder, Bobby ryan, and a regular
It be amazing for the leafs, and Id be crying if I was playing anaheim

[mulisha]

I know the Ducks have the Oilers' 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks (which are worth a lot in this upcoming deep draft and look to be lottery picks) so they are in play for players such as Sundin and Hossa. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Ducks hold on to those picks, draft top talent, and insert them next year.

[Sutterkane]

Whoever gets Forsberg needs to realize they are getting someone who is overrated. He's like the Roger Clemens of hockey. Yes he's very good, but still a shadow of his former self.

Personally, I'd like to see Nashville not make any moves and save their money for the offseason to bring in a few more wingers. I'm perfectly happy with our defense and goaltending group. I'm glad we re-signed Dumont, and hopefully we'll keep the rest of our FA guys when the year is up, unlike last year when we had a fire sale.

[mulisha]

If sundin goes to anaheim like the rumour
Sundin for Edmontons first rounder, Bobby ryan, and a regular
It be amazing for the leafs, and Id be crying if I was playing anaheim

I really doubt that this will happen.

[ruker]

Whoever gets Forsberg needs to realize they are getting someone who is overrated. He's like the Roger Clemens of hockey. Yes he's very good, but still a shadow of his former self.

Trust me, any/every hockey fan knows this. But speaking of players that are a shadow of their former self... Darren McCarty is playing with the Grand Rapid Griffins. :D Too bad he's got a lot of work to do, Wings could really use his muscle come playoff time. I'm sure Kris Draper would be stoked to get his buddy back.

[CZ_]

Whoever gets Forsberg needs to realize they are getting someone who is overrated. He's like the Roger Clemens of hockey. Yes he's very good, but still a shadow of his former self.

Personally, I'd like to see Nashville not make any moves and save their money for the offseason to bring in a few more wingers. I'm perfectly happy with our defense and goaltending group. I'm glad we re-signed Dumont, and hopefully we'll keep the rest of our FA guys when the year is up, unlike last year when we had a fire sale.

i dont think Forsberg is that overrated. He was injured alot but when he played (on nashville) he was over 1 PPG. i think around 1.4 points per game which is very good.

[ruker]

But when your Swedish, it's either great or terrible. There is no in between. :p

Oh yeah, anyone see that BS call (there was many, but this the most crucial) yesterday in that Wings-Ducks game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci1x0UhltPo What a load of crap.

[MightyMouse]

That goal had me winning in fantasy had it counted, jumped in joy

[sw_vile]

But when your Swedish, it's either great or terrible. There is no in between. :p

Oh yeah, anyone see that BS call (there was many, but this the most crucial) yesterday in that Wings-Ducks game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci1x0UhltPo What a load of crap.

you bet your ass I did and the ducks 2nd goal was pretty weak aswell Osgood had the puck frozen imo and had it stripped away before the whistle....i was fucking heated for hours.. lol. Darren McCarty is my friends cousin, pretty cool guy I've met him a few times...would be awesome to see him come back. McCarty Maltby Draper, ol fashion grind line:) w00t.

As far as the deadline goes I would like to see the wings pick up either a 2nd/3rd line center or another solid D man like Blake.

[Phazex3375]

forsberg's situation is very uncertain. as much id like to use my flyers foppa jersey again, i'm real unsure about how much he can help. if i felt the flyers were just that one peice away from being a serious contender i'd be alot more excited than I am. defense is the bigger concern on this team.


The east is so tight especially in the Atlantic. This stretch run is going to be crazy. Number 6 seed is golden right now since they play the winner from the garbage southeast division.

[deicide]

sundin or possibly hossa are the big acquisitions this deadline, and once one of them moves everything else will fall in place. If toronto can get a return similar to or better than the return philly got for forsberg last year they'll be in pretty decent shape next season. They should move Kaberle too and go full fledged rebuild. Kaberle could definitely get a good return as well.

[Cent]

sundin or possibly hossa are the big acquisitions this deadline, and once one of them moves everything else will fall in place. If toronto can get a return similar to or better than the return philly got for forsberg last year they'll be in pretty decent shape next season. They should move Kaberle too and go full fledged rebuild. Kaberle could definitely get a good return as well.

^^

It's so hard being a Leaf fan :(

[ruker]

Yeah, but at least you guys recently beat the Wings. ;)

[MightyMouse]

which only hurt us more, unfortunately our team isnt a last place team

[blz]

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2486/lolwingsxw8.jpg

[bowser]

the vancouver canucks need to make some serious moves here. i certainly hope they do SOMETHing im sick of watching the goddamn swedish players do absolutely nothing. all we do is play the trap and rely on luongo. we need some offense for fuck sakes

[ruker]

HAHAHA. Kid giving Lilja the bird, classic.

[AO`]

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2486/lolwingsxw8.jpg

ROFL.

[ruker]

I know how that kid feels. I was doing the same thing to Lilja after he fanned on a pass, serving up Selanne an easy goal in last years WCF.

[sw_vile]

I know how that kid feels. I was doing the same thing to Lilja after he fanned on a pass, serving up Selanne an easy goal in last years WCF.

that goal still haunts me in my dreams :(

[eminent]

i doubt burke will trade any of those picks, he wants the chance to rub it in klowes face. considering the draft talent this year i think itd be a stretch aswell.

forsberg will still make an impact if he can stay healthy, i think its a no brainer he goes to philly. hes just holding back so other teams dont go out and spend because they didnt get him.

if the sens can get hossa adding some more secondary scoring because they dont have much, it would help. Though getting stillman and commodore was a good move.

I think it be a good move for the nucks to get sundin, hed be playing with a few fellow swedes that hes aware of and add some very much needed scoring, i just dont know what theyd be willing to give up. They cant keep relying on luongo to bail them out.

lol @ the pic

[Solo]

Nah I like McCarty where he is. 20 minutes away at a 10 dollar a game ticket where I can watch him bust some skulls :)

[Sutterkane]

the dead things have 1 point in their last 4 games

how about you guys bring it a little harder next time

[MassacrE]

I would be really suprised to see anyone substantial move from Toronto. It would be in Toronto's best interest to trade away almost every big name they have. I've heard Calgary is interested in Tucker, Sundin going to Detroit or Anaheim is also a big rumor floating around, Kaberle, well.... everyone wants Kabby, Kubina? What the fuck were the leafs thinking? Sadly..... Ferguson was a dumb piece of shit and every one of these players have no trade clauses. I would trade Kubina for a bag of pucks and a snow cone at this point.

If Sundin bleeds blue and white like he says he does he'll convince the overpaid shitty talent that the leafs have to waive their no trade clauses and he'll move to a cup contender for the year. This ensures the leafs finish dead last and will end up with the top pick and potentially top 2 picks. If the leafs can get Stamkos and Tavares...... good times to come.

Also.......... the leafs need a North American captain. I'm so tired of everyone saying that there's no substance to the argument that euro's can't lead NHL teams for shit. The reality is in over 100 years of the NHL no team has ever won the cup with a foreign captain, (The wings have a good shot this year though but everyone knows Draper is the real captain of that team). You would think a team that considers itself the hockey meca would have a Canadian Captain. Time will tell, personally I can't stand Sundin.

[deicide]

Also.......... the leafs need a North American captain. I'm so tired of everyone saying that there's no substance to the argument that euro's can't lead NHL teams for shit. The reality is in over 100 years of the NHL no team has ever won the cup with a foreign captain, (The wings have a good shot this year though but everyone knows Draper is the real captain of that team). You would think a team that considers itself the hockey meca would have a Canadian Captain. Time will tell, personally I can't stand Sundin.

I disagree that the wings have a good shot this year. They're a regular season dynamo again and I see them getting pushed around and knocked out of the playoffs by a team like Anaheim, Dallas, or Calgary. They're just not built for the playoff grind at all.

[MassacrE]

Ya I tend to agree but they're so stacked that it's hard not to see them doing well. But ofcourse....... Ottawa is the same deal and they only JUST made it to the finals after what felt like a decade of presidents cup awards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDchLQIQa4

Fuckin DIRT stamkos goal.

[ricky]

There's still a lottery.

[MassacrE]

Ya but the last place team has a pretty substantial advantage to win. At worst it's a 1 in 4 chance I think

[deicide]

it's a little under 50%. they have a 25% chance of winning outright, and then about a 24% chance that a team that can't move up far enough wins (because you can only move up 4 (i think?) positions, if anyone 6 or worse wins the lottery, the last place team still picks 1st).

[ruker]

the dead things have 1 point in their last 4 games

how about you guys bring it a little harder next time

Yeah but the "dead things" could also lose all their games for 2 weeks and still be first in the NHL. ;)

[mulisha]

Yeah but the "dead things" could also lose all their games for 2 weeks and still be first in the NHL. ;)

A lot of good that did them last year :)

[Sutterkane]

and the year before

and the year before

[CZ_]

Ya I tend to agree but they're so stacked that it's hard not to see them doing well. But ofcourse....... Ottawa is the same deal and they only JUST made it to the finals after what felt like a decade of presidents cup awards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDchLQIQa4

Fuckin DIRT stamkos goal.

ya the thing is the East, with the exception of maybe a couple teams, is compiled of fast offensive hockey. Ottawa like last season flew through the playoffs and got brickwalled by a really physical team. Teams like Ottawa need to build up grit for the playoffs or the same will happen again. Getting Commodore was a good start to that

[ruker]

A lot of good that did them last year :)

They weren't dominate last year so that isn't valid. And Sutter, your team gave away the division to the Wings last year if I remember correctly. ;)

[JimtheMagicalHamster]

Forsberg "highly unlikely" to return this year.

http://tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=229969&hubName=main

He wasn't going to my Devils, so I'm fine with this.

[Kenobody]

As a Habs fan, I would love to see Hossa head to Montreal, but I doubt Gainey would trade any of their prospects away for a rental. I have a slight feeling that he'll end up in Detroit.

And in terms of the entry draft, according to the new CBA, the last place team gets at least the #2 overall pick. By the way they're playing, any of the bottom three teams (Toronto, LA, Tampa) could all benefit from Drew Doughty even if they don't get Stamkos. In fact, any of the top 8 prospects in this year's draft have the potential to be impact, franchise players.

[deicide]

And in terms of the entry draft, according to the new CBA, the last place team gets at least the #2 overall pick. By the way they're playing, any of the bottom three teams (Toronto, LA, Tampa) could all benefit from Drew Doughty even if they don't get Stamkos. In fact, any of the top 8 prospects in this year's draft have the potential to be impact, franchise players.

Doughty looked amazing in the world juniors this year, to me he stood out more than any other player there, including Tavares, as well as Claude Giroux and James VanRiemsdyk whom I was watching for.

[MassacrE]

As a Habs fan, I would love to see Hossa head to Montreal

According to reports in Toronto today, the Habs are VERY interested in acquiring
Mats Sundin. I really don't know what Montreal would have to offer in that kind of deal, and I'm pretty suprised that the Habs are thinking this is the year.

Personally.... I don't know why but for some reason when I picture Mats Sundin in a Red Wings jersey it just looks good, almost like it's a jersey he was meant to wear. I know that sounds weird but sometimes players just "feel" right in certain jerseys and him in a wings jersey would be awesome.

[sw_vile]

Sundin isn't going anywhere.

Not a trade but eh?
http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=354721

[ruker]

YES! I'm seriously pissing my pants with joy!!!!

[Phazex3375]

forsberg signed with colorado

dunno if im happy or sad about that

[Sutterkane]

I thought he wanted to sign with someone who was going to be a contender.

The avs are very average this year.

[Repair Man]

lol, i hope the avs don't plan on paying him too much. the guy didn't think he was healthy enough to play in the NHL just last week and now he all the sudden changes his mind? he's either kidding himself or shooting himself up with HGH

[deicide]

I thought he wanted to sign with someone who was going to be a contender.

The avs are very average this year.

IMO it was always only the flyers or the avs, with a very very outside shot at the predators.

The flyers played their way out of the forsberg sweepstakes, not to mention gagne being done for the season and while colorado has been average, they have had a ton of injuries to contend with and are finally getting healthy again. With Sakic back that's a playoff team and with Forsberg back they could certainly make a splash when they get there.

The odd thing to me is that he signed a 1 yr deal when it had been being said that he wanted 2-3 years.

[Sutterkane]

I don't think he'll sign a long term deal again. He will be the Roger Clemens of the NHL.

[Phazex3375]

flyers got prospal for picard and a 3rd. sweet deal, picard never fit with the flyers and prospal has sexy numbers.

G 29 A 28 Pt 57 -7

combine that with some new confidence for briere and the whole team last night (come back from 0-3 to win in SO thanks to danny) and we got some life again.

[deicide]

They added 45 games of suspension to their lineup last night. Coincidence? I think not.

[JimtheMagicalHamster]

Brian Campbell traded to San Jose for Steve Bernier and 1st rounder.

Brad Richards reportedly traded to Dallas.

[Phazex3375]

Brian Campbell traded to San Jose for Steve Bernier and 1st rounder.

gotta love a top 10 dman heading out of your conference

brad richards to dallas pending he waves his NTC

edit: he did, its done. another win for the east.

[Subhuman]

In a way I'm hoping the Wings can pickup Rob Blake. But I also know they'd have to give up a good player or some top prospects for him, which I don't want. Either way, the Wings will still look good. :D

Apparently, Blake would only want to go to Colorado. Same with Foote (who, incidentally, moved back there).

[deicide]

wow hossa to the penguins.... surprising.

[JimtheMagicalHamster]

Heh, Pierre McGuire absolutely hates that deal for Pittsburgh. He thinks they gave up a ton of young talent for a rental player that they can't possibly re-sign.

[CZ_]

Heh, Pierre McGuire absolutely hates that deal for Pittsburgh. He thinks they gave up a ton of young talent for a rental player that they can't possibly re-sign.

it is true paying the 7 mill at the end of the year isnt gonna be easy, but thats a strong addition for now

and fuck you usted

[Kenobody]

Atlanta absolutely robbed Pittsburgh on the Hossa trade...

Huet to Washington for a second round pick in 2009 (here's a link of all the trades at the deadline (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/trade_deadline/feature/?fid=11364)): I'm kind of surprised that the Habs are counting on Price this earlier in his career, especially since they're a strong playoff team this year.

[Cent]

wewt, Leafs got rid of Wade Belak for Florida's 5th round draft pick.

[CZ_]

wewt, Leafs got rid of Wade Belak for Florida's 5th round draft pick.

along with Kilger and Gill

[deicide]

I think the Huet trade was the steal of the deadline. Washington made some great moves.

Only thing I'm upset about from a Flyers fan perspective is if Foote got a 1st rounder, you could have moved Jason Smith for similiar return.

[sw_vile]

Well nothing really big for my redwings, picked up Brad Stuart From L.A.
I think The Campbell deal helps San Jose's D in a BIG way..
Hossa and Crosby will be interesting to watch.
I think Washington had a great day by picking up Huet, Fedorov, Cooke. Fedorov was my first fav hockey player back when he was with the wings..hes done now but will be interesting if he is on a line with Ovie.
Colorado, Dallas, San Jose all got better in the last 2 days :( not looking so well for Detroit :(

[Pug]

i hate you campbell

basically the sabres are packing it in but they do have two first round picks now

[Repair Man]

gotta love a top 10 dman heading out of your conference

top 10 defenseman? the fuck?

the guy obviously has an upside when it comes to production on offense, but he is not good in his own end (he is still a big minus despite his point totals) and is going to be grossly overpaid by someone this coming offseason. also, i think its fair to point out that with the exception of game 1 against the islanders last year, campbell has been pretty much worthless the last two post-seasons. buffalo's best defenseman (tallinder) had more goals and assists in the playoffs last year and played great all-around hockey against other team's top lines, while campbell struggled big time, particularly against ottawa.

i'm genuinely surprised that such a big deal is being made over campbell. while the sabres might be worse off for the remainder of this season without him, i don't think they were ready for a deep run into the playoffs anyway, and bernier brings some much-needed size and grit to buffalo. if he continues maturing at a decent rate, he'll be a 25-to-30 goal scorer in three years, especially in the sabres system. he might not be a sure thing as of yet, but i think signing bernier long-term and hoping he pans out is a much safer and cheaper bet in the long run than signing campbell and hoping he magically learns how to play real defense.

another 1st round pick is nice too

edit: huet to washington for a 2nd round pick is outrageous; amazing pickup for the capitals. huet was an allstar last year for fucks sake..putting the weight of the organization on carey price's back this soon seems pretty asinine to me, but i guess time will tell.

[deicide]

I agree with repairman, campbell is a nice player but extremely overrated. He's also by all accounts a huge asshole.

[UsTeD]

it is true paying the 7 mill at the end of the year isnt gonna be easy, but thats a strong addition for now

and fuck you usted

<3 I was really skeptical at first seeing how much we gave up. But thinking and hearing about it, the trade makes alot more sense. Christensen is a natural Center and isn't big enough for a 3/4th line while we already are riding Crosby/Malkin/Staal. Our center need isn't that deep, that is also why we weren't afraid to get rid of Esposito. We probably won't be able to keep Hossa and that's an understatement. We have to sign Malkin, A goalie (Flower vs Conks), and Malone. I also really like getting Gill, he's an awesome penalty killing, shot blocker which is what we really needed, along with a potent winger to play with crosby while keeping the Malkin, Sykora, Malone line intact.

[Kenobody]

Washington pretty much acquires S. Federov and C. Huet for a prospect and a second rounder....I'm loving their chances in the southeast right now, especially with Federov and Green on defense.

[deicide]

you way overpaid for gill, IMO.

[MeestarK]

I had TSN's tradecenter on all day at work today, and just to let you know, listening to Pierre McGuire all day will make you want to kick puppies and small children. Even if the Habs game is on TSN, if McGuire is doing any commentating I will always watch RDS and listen to that Pierre and Yvon babble in French.

[ons]

Washington pretty much acquires S. Federov and C. Huet for a prospect and a second rounder....I'm loving their chances in the southeast right now, especially with Federov and Green on defense.

Federov is waste money and an overpaid underworking russian similar to Alexei Yashin.

[CZ_]

Federov is a center not defense

[Repair Man]

lol, the blame game has already started in ottawa

coach john paddock fired with 18 games left, brian murray to go back behind the bench

i can't wait for them to lose again

[Cent]

I hate Ottawa too, except Spezza being one of my favourite players.

[ruker]

The 2 early season favorites have some 'splaining to do!!! I'm not to sure about Brad Stuart being a Wing. :cool:

[CZ_]

i think firing paddock was a good move. Bryan Murray has less to worry about with his GM spot at the moment and I think this will be a turning point. The team just wasn't playing motivated with Paddock

[Repair Man]

bernier has two goals in his first period as a buffalo sabre and campbell has already picked up an assist in his first period as a shark

nice to see the trade working out for both teams

[CZ_]

it always amazes me how buffalo continues to get so much scoring

[Randy Travis]

pierre mcguire is a tool. And pittsburgh gave away too much for hossa

[Sutterkane]

Jesus dies on the cross and saves us all.

Which is good since Mason saves nothing.

[ricky]

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u202/Dallas_Stars/Dallas%20Stars/richards.jpg

[JimtheMagicalHamster]

What a disappointing first game for Richards. Surprised he didn't get pelted with garbage for having only 5 assists in his debut. Disgusting.

[eminent]

penguins give up 3 prospects for 10 minutes of ice time from hossa...lol hopefully hes back soon.

why would montreal give up huet is beyond me, there had to be something more there. there would have been nothing wrong going into the playoffs with 2 good goalies. it only takes 1 play for price to be done for the post season. unless he was a UFA maybe.

capmbell is extremely over rated and i dont ever see him play except maybe the odd time on TSN, I can just tell he is. How hes become such a commodity is beyond me.

i dont think it really matters who comes out of the east tho, the west is just too good this year.

texas sucks

[fUble_baSs]

From what I heard, the Habs traded Huet because the Hossa deal was pretty much done and it was including Johan Hedberg (G).
So in the morning Gainey traded Huet and the best he was able to get was a second rounder which is pretty low compare to what he`s worth.
And then came Pittsburgh who screwed the whole deal. They offered their players, so Atlanta GM went back to Gainey to ask for one more player and he refuse because it was becoming too much for a rental player.

It seem like a big gamble for now, but Price seem to be the kind of goaler that work better under pressure and so far, it seem to work.

As of tonight, we are first in the east :)
Go Habs Go

[ons]

capmbell is extremely over rated and i dont ever see him play except maybe the odd time on TSN, I can just tell he is. How hes become such a commodity is beyond me.



welcome to the new NHL. Also the lack of dmen with an offensive touch available at the trade deadline.