Official NBA Trade Deadline Thread

[H-Town]

Since no one else made one...:D

I'll start with the Jackson to Houston trade. Unlike a lot of Rox fans, I like this trade. James was just riding the bench and shot horribly, and Wells was losing playing time to Scola and Landry. The Rox gain some money back for the cap as well.

[Mercenary-VD]

meh. Bobby Jackson is of the same breed as Mike James, both guys are over the hill shoot guards who play the point. From a contract standpoint they will get out of Jacksons contract earlier. I guess this will free up more minutes for Battier and Scola but I'm not sure if it improves the team. I think this works for New Orleans come playoff time when Wells will be playing for his next one or two year contract.

[AGT-Shady]

Wells is better player than Jackson straight up, much less with pieces, Houston was always under-utilizing him so I guss it works out for both him and the team. They're not a significant playoff threat anyway so I guess it's indignificant to the rest of the NBA, but if you think it helps them H-Town I'll take your word for it.

[decap]

yeah houston still lacks the firepower to compete, bjax is an okay gain, but won't change them much. i've said it before and i'll say it again -- the rockets are stale and don't win games if tmac doesn't produce or isn't playing. overall: bjax isn't their missing link, or solution of any sort.

as for the hornets, wells is a nice pickup, i won't forget how he torched the spurs with the kings in the playoffs... he can turn it up when he wants, he just needs pt.

as for artest, i hope we iron things out with him and everyone is happy there. i love having him on our team, i just hope we can get salmons more pt while keeping artest happy.

[AGT-Shady]

Ben Wallace to Cleveland was just mentioned oft-handedly on OTL - anybody got confirmation?

[Pro]

Cavs - Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Wally, Delonte West, and future bulls 2nd round
Bulls - Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown
Sonics - Ira Newble, Adrian Griffin, and Donyell Marshall

[BlackThoughT]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3257159

makes cleveland alot better

[AGT-Shady]

W - O - W

That's a major upheaval for a Cavs team in the thick of things in the East.

[Aic]

Since no one else made one...:D

I'll start with the Jackson to Houston trade. Unlike a lot of Rox fans, I like this trade. James was just riding the bench and shot horribly, and Wells was losing playing time to Scola and Landry. The Rox gain some money back for the cap as well.


I liked the trade too and it's not because of what it does for us this year(not much if anything) but it clears cap space and all that wonderful jazz I don't feel like getting into on yet another forum. Also Bonzi, despite playing decent recently, has been very inconsistant, sucks on defense, can't shoot, misses tons of layups/ft's etc etc need I go on no big loss who cares. Even though decap probably has no idea we've won quite a few games this year despite T-Mac being out/sucking when he has played, he's right, the Rockets were not a legit title threat this season anyways and the only fans mad about this trade were delusional enough to think they were, and that Bonzi leaving significantly reduces those chances(both nonsense). Maybe the Rockets will actually be able to go after someone this offseason for more than just the MLE for once...

On another note, who cares, because they just traded Kirk Snyder and a 2nd round pick for a worthless mediocre scrub Gerald Green.

edit: OK I think "worthless mediocre scrub" was a bit harsh to say the least...more like "super talented player who can shoot/score but who hasn't amounted to shit yet". He has potential no doubt, and maybe playing at home with guys like Yao/T-Mac will be a great fit for him. Plus I believe his contract is expiring anyways and we didn't really give up shit. I just wonder if he's going to get many minutes though.

[Mercenary-VD]

If West can stay healthy this trade could really improve the Cavs. I don't like the financial implications of this trade for either team, but wow, at least GM's are trying to make it happen this season.

[Kuniva]

Can't wait to see Hughes playing with the Bulls, wonder how hes gonna fit. So glad they were able to get rid of Ben Wallace

[Hellz-Angel01]

happy about larry hughes, but I personally HATE drew gooden. And Joe Smith was helping our team so much although I guess this is a trade more aimed at the future. We'll have to see how it plays out.

[Ignatz]

Holy crap where did that trade come from. Cavs basically just rebuilt their team all in a day.

I agree it makes them better, but can all those pieces jell in time for this year's playoffs?

[Falcon-[CfH]-]

If Hughes can stay healthy, i love this trade. Still doesnt solve our low-post scoring problem but maybe Tyrus Thomas, Noah, and now Gooden can DO something about that. I was happy to be rid of Wallace, but i didnt wanna see Joe Smith go because imo Smith was one of our best overall players this season and showed alot, sucks to see him go. But now w/ Hughes, they can bring Gordon off the bench where he does his best always it seems.

Although this doesnt really matter much because its gonna be either Detroit or Boston in the finals, but i'd still like to see the Bulls make a push to get in the playoffs and see if they can make a run.

[chi-town]

the bulls needed to get rid of wallace just for the simple fact he didn't fit in what they're trying to do + now the cavs have to deal with his over paying contract. im sad to see joe smith go though, he's been our only consistent player this season. cant wait to see how this pans out.

[PHISH]

Good trade for the cavs, and an okay trade for the bulls as I'm now guessing they won't resign Gordon, open up time for their frontcourt youth and build from there. Wally is already a dead-eye shooter that can play off the ball whereas Hughes had to dominate the ball. Man Hughes was terrible...so bad..so so bad. Always been impressed with Delonte West's defense so he should be competent filling in minutes at point.

[Kartikeya-OD]

It's a good deal for the Cavs, and a great deal for LBJ. Wallace has a chance to earn his paycheck now. Having Wallace in the paint and dominate a majority of the boards can keep LBJ out on the perimeter more and make him more efficent.

[sw_vile]

It's a good deal for the Cavs, and a great deal for LBJ. Wallace has a chance to earn his paycheck now. Having Wallace in the paint and dominate a majority of the boards can keep LBJ out on the perimeter more and make him more efficent.

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[Magus]

Cracks me up that Bulls fans are getting excited about Larry Hughes, possibly the most overpaid player in the league. He will play well for you, fellas, in the final year of his contract, so that he can sucker another team into paying him major money.

[chi-town]

im happy the bulls got rid of wallace's huge contract, especially since he don't fit with the bulls. lebron should feel like a champ getting someone who will give them second chance opportunities and they get a solid player in joe smith who's had one hell of a year with the bulls so far.

and holy shit, the bulls are loaded with guards. paxson needs to make some decisions.

[Mercenary-VD]

Bulls fans should be distraught over this move. Seriously, no fan could appreciate this move for Chicago. You've managed to pawn off one overpaid underachiever only to recieve two overpaid underachieves. Compounding this is the the fact that the Bulls have lost even more financial flexibility by going through with this move. Wallace is owed marginally more than Hughes while Gooden is owed signficantly more than Smith over a longer period.

What's left on Wallaces contract will seem like peanuts to the Bulls once Larry Hughes gets involved in the offense. I like this trade for Cleveland with the prospect of West being able to stay healthy and see consistant minutes. I can't see Wally being able to make any significant impact anywhere expect comming off the bench as a specialty player. He's too much of a liability on defense and no longer quick enough to be anything more than a spot up shooter. However, he's definitely an improvement over Damon Jones, although at three times the price.

Edit: Just through I would add that http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com is likely going to shut down after this trade as it was run by a disgruntled Cavs fan. Knock yourself out Bulls.

[beyond]

Well for Chicago, getting rid of Wallace at this point might be addition by subtraction. Gooden replaces Joe Smith's spot, and hes marginally superior in Smith in just about every category. If Larry Hughes plays like hes capable of playing, then Chicago certainly gets much better through this trade. Of course, Hughes has been awful for the Cavs and I doubt he feels more motivated in Chicago.

Of course, the problem is this trade still doesn't make them a contender, and like Merc said, they lose financial flexibility. With Deng and Gordon being restricted FAs this summer, they may be in a bind.

[beyond]

Also, figured this was relevant, I'm amazed that Artest didn't get traded. Supposedly the deal got hung up on Denver not wanting to include Kleiza along with Najera and a draft pick for Artest. If this is the case, I personally think Denver is crazy. Kleiza is a fairly talented young player, but Artest makes them a championship team. Sure the whole Artest being a nutcase situation may also be relevant, but I think at this point, Artest wants a championship enough that he could control himself.

[Hellz-Angel01]

I'm also guessing/hoping gooden won't stay in chicago for very long.

[chi-town]

that is one thing I wished paxson did...use the wallace trade better. im still bitter about losing joe smith though.

[BlackThoughT]

only bad thing about clevland trade is wally kind of sucks now

[Pro]

wally can still shoot!

[AGT-Shady]

Gooden replaces Joe Smith's spot, and hes marginally superior in Smith in just about every category.

Umm, what?

They're both scoring 11, both average 1 assist, and Smith is shooting slightly better from the field while averaging about 3 less rebounds a game, but all in about 8 less minutes a game.

Smith has been playing like a monster for Chicago this season man as all the Bulls fans are attesting to, and in Febuary with increased minutes he's averaging 17 ppg, I'm not sure where you're coming from here. IMO this is the key component in making CLE the winner in this trade.

[Mercenary-VD]

Gooden is highly inconsistant and although people say he's got decent range I'd be more inclined to say that he's highly inconsistant from anywhere outside of five to eight feet. Joe Smith has a fairly well rounded offensive game and can stroke it from mulitple positions on the floor. Gooden may bring a little more mobility down the stretch though, since Smith is a constant injury concern.

[chi-town]

Smith has been playing like a monster for Chicago this season man as all the Bulls fans are attesting to, and in Febuary with increased minutes he's averaging 17 ppg, I'm not sure where you're coming from here. IMO this is the key component in making CLE the winner in this trade.

exactly, hes been the bulls only consistent player this year. deng and gordon have been battling injuries.

[beyond]

Ok, I guess I should say Gooden is a much better defender then Smith, and has the potential to be better then Smith in pretty much every way. I also think Gooden can have just as much of an offensive presence in Chicago, as he will have much more room to work in the paint. Hes yet to enter his prime, and if there is a faucet of the game right now where he isn't better then Smith, I think he will be soon.

[BlackThoughT]

wally can still shoot!

thats about all he can still do. :P
way too injury prone
cant play defense
slow
etc

it was like that when he was with the celts a little ways back, cant possibly be better now

[Kuniva]

wally couldnt defend or create his own shot since day one when he was drafted by the twolves