View Full Version : Gas prices? No problem!
Johnny Mullet
April 10th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Got this car for practically FREE because it has a dead cylinder and some other misc issues. I am going to replace the head gasket and timing belt, check the valves, and save this little car! Owner told me it averaged around 50MPG when it was running right :eek:
1998 Chevy Metro
1.0L 3 cyl
5 speed manual
Base model with no options
It might not get me laid, but what the hell..............
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/geo001.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/geo002.jpg
Griffith-
April 10th, 2008, 08:41 PM
put a wing on it, you know you want to.
drone
April 10th, 2008, 08:55 PM
put a wing on it, you know you want to.
my buddy did that to his '92 geo metro. it was originally a bug deflector for a truck...
Vr_
April 10th, 2008, 09:38 PM
free car
+
50MPG
x
the way the economy is ATM
= teh win!
dook
April 10th, 2008, 09:50 PM
roll down the windows and let your mullet blow in the wind. how could girls say no?
dakine`
April 10th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Could I just say, I don't think that car is the real reason you wont be getting laid.... Oh and I am going to get a motorcycle, it wont be free but it will get me a good mpg.
Johnny Mullet
April 10th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Thank God the car has tinted windows ;)
And I don't do motorcycles. Hitting a deer at 50mph at night on my 1971 Harley ended that shit.
rasputin
April 10th, 2008, 10:03 PM
Nice. Good gas mileage FTW!
primer
April 10th, 2008, 10:03 PM
my mom had a 4 door metro back in the 90s (with AC) and it got over 50 mpg hwy. 3cyl awesomeness
Ricky`
April 11th, 2008, 02:38 AM
Please cesspool this.
Yukfo0
April 11th, 2008, 02:44 AM
http://i27.tinypic.com/6ssw8p.jpg
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marden
April 11th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Welcome to my world. Except mines a '99 and the only option I got was to put a radio in it. Has about 150,000 miles on it. Still get 41mpg :D
http://www.marden.ca/images/my-car1.jpg
Sutterkane
April 11th, 2008, 08:54 AM
Geo's are awesome for mpg. They are a much better alternative than paying out the ass for a brand new hybrid.
My solution(s) to the gas prices have been this:
-carpooling with the wife twice a week(although we only drive 15 minutes and less than 12 miles to work). we'd carpool more, but she works out 3 days a week. this also means going to the grocery store on tuesdays with her, but that's ok since I need to pick out stuff for grilling now anyway. if prices go up to $4/gal, there is another guy on our street who works with us and he'll start pooling with us.
-buying groceries at kroger since they'll give 10 cents off a gallon on 1 fillup for every 100 dollars you spend in groceries. it's less than 1% savings, but it does add up over time and anything is better than nothing. plus, you at least feel like you're getting a better deal.
-both of the vehicles we drive get around 30 mpg highway, so we hardly ever fillup.
Verty
April 11th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Haven't you people heard of walking!!
Scorcher
April 11th, 2008, 10:45 AM
Haven't you people heard of walking!!
Some people can't walk to school/work/grocery store?
thrash_head
April 11th, 2008, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I live 45 miles from work, a hour from school (thank god for online courses) and about 5 miles from the closest grocery store. I'm glad I get 37 mpg on high way in my car =)
MEDIC_3000
April 11th, 2008, 12:28 PM
$3.42 for regular next to my house.
*sigh*
Vanquish
April 11th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Assuming Canadian dollar and american dollar are equal now, I'm paying $4.90 per gallon, or $1.29 per litre.
yeah.... thats for regular. It's well up over 5 bucks for the good stuff.
Halfbreed
April 11th, 2008, 12:47 PM
$4.08 for 93 here. Filling up is alot of fun let me tell you :(
Griffith-
April 11th, 2008, 12:52 PM
3.25 here, my car gets 28mpg and my suv gets 10mpg ;[
Sterkarm
April 11th, 2008, 02:02 PM
Who makes money off of high gas/oil prices? The energy companies.
Make some money and invest in these companies. I have no issues after investing in a few natural gas companies a few months ago.
id wait for a pullback though - the prices of the stocks / nat gas / oil have runup quite a bit.
Here are two big winners that I was lucky enough to buy at the right time.. XTO, DVN
Theres a whole bunch of options in the energy sector though.... RIG, APA, the list goes on.
good luck
Vengeant
April 11th, 2008, 02:21 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/6ssw8p.jpg
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im from the east coast, but i went on a cross country road trip last year and when i hit the west coast, every gas stop had two choices: Chevron and whatever other brand.
in every instance, the other brands had cheaper gas by almost 30 cents, but for some reason, people were still lined up at Chevron...?
|2on
April 11th, 2008, 02:41 PM
i live in one of the cheapest areas in the nation for gas, it's 3.01 right now right down the road from my house. so good, still too much money... but whatever i'm not gonna complain (a lot)
Suicidal Anomaly
April 11th, 2008, 03:05 PM
im from the east coast, but i went on a cross country road trip last year and when i hit the west coast, every gas stop had two choices: Chevron and whatever other brand.
in every instance, the other brands had cheaper gas by almost 30 cents, but for some reason, people were still lined up at Chevron...?
I live on the west coast and I can't say I've ever seen 2 gas stations across from each other that were a $0.30 difference. There's exxonn, mobil, arco, thrifty, costco, 76, shell and a few smaller gas stations to go along with chevron. Arco is usually the cheapest but I stay away due to conflicting reports of what it could do to an engine over time. That's probably why whenever I see a corner of gas stations (there's one on the way home with 4 different ones) they all have people in them despite the fact that one is always cheaper. Reason being is probably a perception about the quality of gas and also quite frankly because it's easier to get to on the way home instead of having to make a left or u turn. I don't really mind paying an extra $0.10 a gallon to avoid any possible problems down the line. Call it piece of mind.
DildoBaggins
April 11th, 2008, 04:24 PM
i dont mind paying 4 dollars a gallon.
primer
April 11th, 2008, 04:30 PM
thank god i get to drive my company truck complete with corporate gas card. yey TXU and ONCOR! :D:D:D
Hellsy
April 11th, 2008, 05:09 PM
I am spending 250 a month on gas.
I drive an hour to work.
Griffith-
April 11th, 2008, 05:57 PM
I am spending 250 a month on gas.
I drive an hour to work.
When I was commuting to school (2 hours, roommate moved home so I had too) i was driving around 500miles a week. And I had to fill up pretty much every 2 days (when gas was around $3.00). Sucked so bad.
Gr8Shot
April 11th, 2008, 07:37 PM
thank god i get to drive my company truck complete with corporate gas card. yey TXU and ONCOR! :D:D:D
yea my job has been paying my gas for the past 2 years... i've been very thankful.
i remember the old days when gas was in the mid 1 dollar range and when you're bored you would just drive around till you found something to do. nowadays my friends just stand next to their car debating what to do and trying to figure out who got chips for gas.
stalf`
April 11th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Hooray for around $500/month gas. Work is 20 minutes away.
ruker
April 11th, 2008, 10:06 PM
im from the east coast, but i went on a cross country road trip last year and when i hit the west coast, every gas stop had two choices: Chevron and whatever other brand.
in every instance, the other brands had cheaper gas by almost 30 cents, but for some reason, people were still lined up at Chevron...?
Because we like to fill up with gas... and not watered down vegetable oil.
primer
April 11th, 2008, 10:58 PM
yea my job has been paying my gas for the past 2 years... i've been very thankful.
i remember the old days when gas was in the mid 1 dollar range and when you're bored you would just drive around till you found something to do. nowadays my friends just stand next to their car debating what to do and trying to figure out who got chips for gas.
haha ya. when i started driving in dallas it was around 85 cents a gallon. i remember when it went over a dollar a gallon i was furious about paying for more than i got. lolz i wish i could go back :(
Vanquish
April 13th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Wow. I can't believe it. Gas has been higher than $4.50 a gallon here for well over a year, and we hardly complain about it. I can't believe all the whining I'm hearing about gas being *OMG* $3.40!
primer
April 13th, 2008, 01:03 PM
Wow. I can't believe it. Gas has been higher than $4.50 a gallon here for well over a year, and we hardly complain about it. I can't believe all the whining I'm hearing about gas being *OMG* $3.40!
lol gas elitists. thats a new one here
BlackThoughT
April 13th, 2008, 01:20 PM
UR GAS IS CHEAP BECAUSE IT SUCKS! MY GAS IS WAY BETTER
44-
April 13th, 2008, 03:01 PM
average price here is 3.15 and my little guy with a 10 gallion tank gets like 18 mpg lol
Gr8Shot
April 13th, 2008, 05:52 PM
Wow. I can't believe it. Gas has been higher than $4.50 a gallon here for well over a year, and we hardly complain about it. I can't believe all the whining I'm hearing about gas being *OMG* $3.40!
arent canadian dollars different from u.s?
Griffith-
April 13th, 2008, 06:01 PM
arent canadian dollars different from u.s?
not much different. I think 3.40 in US is like 3.47 in CAD
Randy Travis
April 14th, 2008, 07:25 AM
canadian dollar was recently worth more than US currency..at one point it was worth 1.10
Halfbreed
April 14th, 2008, 10:05 AM
Stop the psycho environmentalists and oil wouldn't be so expensive...
America is sitting on top of a super massive 200 billion barrel Oil Field that could potentially make America Energy Independent and until now has largely gone unnoticed. Thanks to new technology the Bakken Formation in North Dakota could boost America’s Oil reserves by an incredible 10 times, giving western economies the trump card against OPEC’s short squeeze on oil supply
Chevron Corp. on Tuesday estimated the 300-square-mile region where its test well sits could hold between 3 billion and 15 billion barrels of oil and natural gas liquids. Analysts are calling it the most significant domestic discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay more than a generation ago.
Generally Alaska is brought up when the discussion of drilling comes up but you will notice Alaska has so much less oil to tap into then North Dakota or the Gulf of Mexico.
US OKs Drilling in Alaska
The department's Bureau of Land Management authorized the first commercial development of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska, allowing the companies to go forward with developing the tracts, which are located in the northeastern corner of the reserve.
Production from these fields, which together hold more than 330 million barrels of oil, will start by 2006, according to the BLM. They will supplement production from the Alpine fields, which hold 429 million barrels and have a daily oil output of about 100,000 barrels.
Prudhoe Bay oil field in Alaska has an additional 25 billion barrels.
The above total of untapped oil reserves in the US territories comes to roughly 229 - 240 billion barrels of oil.
To put the amount of oil in perspective. The rankings of Countries with the most oil are as follows;
1. Saudi Arabia 264.3
2. Canada 178.8
3. Iran 132.5
4. Iraq 115.0
5. Kuwait 101.5
6. United Arab Emirates 97.8
7. Venezuela 79.7
8. Russia 60.0
9. Libya 39.1
10. Nigeria 35.9
11. United States 21.4
As you can see the US way down in 11th with just a meager 21.4 billion barrels. If we bumped up drilling in our reserves we would be almost as large a producer of oil as Saudi Arabia. Then we could pay 3 cents a gallon like the Saudi's do..
GET RID OF THE NUTTY ENVIRONMENTALISTS STOPPING IT!
:) enjoy..
matt-
April 14th, 2008, 03:32 PM
Or maybe we could start using alternative sources of energy?
Magus
April 14th, 2008, 03:36 PM
only if someone agrees to buy me and every other average person the technology to make use of these things, matt.
dook
April 14th, 2008, 04:54 PM
i too am in favor of encouraging more gratuitous and wasteful use of non-renewable energy by tapping every petroleum reserve possible at the expense of the environment and a future generation's well-being.
that's sarcasm btw... we should be getting off oil, not finding ways to make it temporarily cheaper
schtoofa
April 14th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Or maybe we could start using alternative sources of energy?
that'd be nice, but making that happen is another story...
matt-
April 14th, 2008, 05:25 PM
that'd be nice, but making that happen is another story...
It isn't going to be an overnight thing, it will take time. Right now the current administration is showing no initiative at all, which makes it difficult to get the ball rolling.
agi|e
April 14th, 2008, 07:40 PM
If you live close enough ride a bicycle. Good exercise plus saves money. Plus less money to gas companies and less driving will eventually drive prices down.
Redneck
April 14th, 2008, 07:42 PM
I bet any guy over 250 pounds could take that thing on in a high-speed collision.
schtoofa
April 14th, 2008, 07:52 PM
It isn't going to be an overnight thing, it will take time. Right now the current administration is showing no initiative at all, which makes it difficult to get the ball rolling.
It'll definitely take time. Also, it's probably going to require some creativity to make it happen in a capitalist system without over-regulating*. Maybe insanely generous tax credits or broad IP rights for non-petroleum-based energy inventions? Dunno...
*some people may not care about over-regulating, or they may not think such a thing is possible. shrug...
FaLsE_Ph-
April 14th, 2008, 08:57 PM
What our country and especially California needs to do is lift the ban on the new production of nuclear power plants. I think some where in the area of 40% of our electricity comes from oil/natural gas burning plants. If we could shut down the oil/natural gas burning plants, then our oil/natural gas intake would be far less, with us relying less on foreign oil, we can enjoy cheaper prices.
Fuck environmentalists. They do nothing good except make life worse. Those reserves we have, we should immediately start drilling, and going nuclear, therefore we can prolong our reserves.
Johnny Mullet
April 14th, 2008, 10:40 PM
It all has to do with the way some of us drive. I will travel the speed limit in my Metro while getting passed by full-sized 4X4 trucks or SUV's going 70MPH on a 55MPH road and when I get to the store, there they are bitching about the gas prices while dumping another $90.00 into the tank while I pass the pumps and grab some chips and beer since I won't need gas for another 2 weeks.
I know this for a fact! I own a 4X4 truck and burned up a full tank in a snowstorm posted on a previous thread here. If people would just slow down some! And why the fuck would you use a gas hog like that for a daily driver? I had the truck for 4 years now, but it has just over 100K (a 1995 model) since I use it when I need it. I always had a "beater" to use for transportation.
I also worked at a large Dealer and most owners of large trucks and SUV's actually drive them not because they need it, but for bragging rights or ego trips.
I got this car 4 days ago and put 350 miles on it with the same tank of gas that was in it when I bought it and the fucking car has a dead cylinder to boot. I am rebuilding the head this week to get the full miles per gallon this piece of shit can normally get.
Scorcher
April 14th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Stop the psycho environmentalists and oil wouldn't be so expensive...
Generally Alaska is brought up when the discussion of drilling comes up but you will notice Alaska has so much less oil to tap into then North Dakota or the Gulf of Mexico.
Prudhoe Bay oil field in Alaska has an additional 25 billion barrels.
The above total of untapped oil reserves in the US territories comes to roughly 229 - 240 billion barrels of oil.
To put the amount of oil in perspective. The rankings of Countries with the most oil are as follows;
1. Saudi Arabia 264.3
2. Canada 178.8
3. Iran 132.5
4. Iraq 115.0
5. Kuwait 101.5
6. United Arab Emirates 97.8
7. Venezuela 79.7
8. Russia 60.0
9. Libya 39.1
10. Nigeria 35.9
11. United States 21.4
As you can see the US way down in 11th with just a meager 21.4 billion barrels. If we bumped up drilling in our reserves we would be almost as large a producer of oil as Saudi Arabia. Then we could pay 3 cents a gallon like the Saudi's do..
GET RID OF THE NUTTY ENVIRONMENTALISTS STOPPING IT!
:) enjoy..
Can I get your sources?
And why don't we import from Canada since they have so much?
Why don't you explain to us the type of oil in the Dakotas?
http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/575614.html
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/04/10/bakken_formation/
But, I guess you're up to your usual games with fact discrepancies.
Halfbreed
April 14th, 2008, 11:43 PM
Can I get your sources?
And why don't we import from Canada since they have so much?
Why don't you explain to us the type of oil in the Dakotas?
http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/575614.html
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/04/10/bakken_formation/
But, I guess you're up to your usual games with fact discrepancies.
Why don't you point out something specific instead of accusing me of playing games with facts.. What specifically would you like me to supply facts about?
"America is sitting on top of a super massive 200 billion barrel Oil Field that could potentially make America Energy Independent and until now has largely gone unnoticed. Thanks to new technology the Bakken Formation in North Dakota could boost America’s Oil reserves by an incredible 10 times, giving western economies the trump card against OPEC’s short squeeze on oil supply and making Iranian and Venezuelan threats of disrupted supply irrelevant.
In the next 30 days the USGS (U.S. Geological Survey) will release a new report giving an accurate resource assessment of the Bakken Oil Formation that covers North Dakota and portions of South Dakota and Montana. With new horizontal drilling technology it is believed that from 175 to 500 billion barrels of recoverable oil are held in this 200,000 square mile reserve that was initially discovered in 1951. The USGS did an initial study back in 1999 that estimated 400 billion recoverable barrels were present but with prices bottoming out at $10 a barrel back then the report was dismissed because of the higher cost of horizontal drilling techniques that would be needed, estimated at $20-$40 a barrel.
It was not until 2007, when EOG Resources of Texas started a frenzy when they drilled a single well in Parshal N.D. that is expected to yield 700,000 barrels of oil that real excitement and money started to flow in North Dakota. Marathon Oil is investing $1.5 billion and drilling 300 new wells in what is expected to be one of the greatest booms in Oil discovery since Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1938.
The US imported about 14 million barrels of Oil per day in 2007 , which means US consumers sent about $340 Billion Dollars over seas building palaces in Dubai and propping up unfriendly regimes around the World, if 200 billion barrels of oil at $90 a barrel are recovered in the high plains the added wealth to the US economy would be $18 Trillion Dollars which would go a long way in stabilizing the US trade deficit and could cut the cost of oil in half in the long run."
Does that answer any of your questions? Oh wait... Maybe you should watch this video instead so it can make more sense to you. Sometimes a visual session of learning helps the less capable understand.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/index.html <--- Look on the right side of the page and watch black gold..
Did that make more sense to you? Next time why don't you try getting your facts together before accusing others of fabricating things.
matt-
April 15th, 2008, 12:59 AM
And why don't we import from Canada since they have so much?
Little known fact: The largest exporter of oil to the US is Canada.
BlackThoughT
April 15th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Next time why don't you try getting your facts together before accusing others of fabricating things.
:rolleyes:
Scorcher
April 15th, 2008, 09:21 AM
Little known fact: The largest exporter of oil to the US is Canada.
Oh my!
Halfbreed do explain Shale Oil to me please.
Nice Foxnews source for the video, still no source for that other information.
But keep on keepin on like usual halfbreed. google ron paul!
Verty
April 15th, 2008, 09:33 AM
Anybody else has some advice on how to lower fuel consumption? Right now I have a huge hole in my exhaust pipe, the one going to the manifold from the catalytic converter, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't help, and my air filter may be a little bit dirty... and I never drive over 100km/h because it DOES make a huge difference, I can usually do like 50-75km more on a tank when I do. Any other things I should check or do to lower fuel consumption?
I have a little Nissan Sentra '93 and it used to drink less than it does now :(
Halfbreed
April 15th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Halfbreed do explain Shale Oil to me please.
It's amazing how some people are so good at making themselves look so stupid. Do you really think I don't know what oil shale is? What are we 15 years old? Maybe you are..
Actually oil shale in the past was not very effective to produce petro/gas because of the difficulties extracting it, the environmental concerns, and the difficulties that came along with converting it through a superheated process.
Thanks to progress in technology and society we can now look at it as just as viable an option as sweet crude. Todays technology and costs of conventional crude have paved the way for oil shale as a new cost effective way of solving our energy needs.
Two companies called Earth Search Sciences and Petro Probe, who hold an exclusive license and option to purchase a patented cost-effective and environmentally responsible oil shale recovery process. The process uses superheated air and gasification for the conversion of oil shale to a multi-use product base. This process provides a system for recovering hydrocarbonaceous products at any working depth. The initial test results indicate that this type of process would be economical for recovering product from all regions of an oil shale formation. It is also anticipated that the process will be environmentally friendly as the operation will occur underground and will result in minimal disturbance to the surface.
Maybe that explains a little more to you? I think you are only continuing to prove to me how misinformed you truly are on current energy capabilities.
Nice Foxnews source for the video, still no source for that other information.
What is the "other information"??
I have been asking you since your first moronic post to be specific. Obviously, since you can't, and since you have been proven wrong on every statement you have made so far, I'm not surprised you do not want to be specific. You would rather just sit there like the moron you are, and bash me with nothing of factual value or importance to add to the discussion.
Now move along or post something intelligent..
Scorcher
April 15th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Every block of text you quote comes along with no sources.
Give me decent, valid, and unbiased sources and maybe I won't question your crazy unsupported claims.
Debating with you is like debating a brick wall, but a brick wall that spouts off random bullshit.
So I'm done with you.
Nuggs|*1
April 15th, 2008, 12:42 PM
ill bet you get nowhere near 50 mpg, more like 30 or less
Halfbreed
April 15th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Every block of text you quote comes along with no sources.
Give me decent, valid, and unbiased sources and maybe I won't question your crazy unsupported claims.
That's what I am asking you over and over and over.... At least 3 times I have asked you to be specific on what claims you want a source for. Everytime I just get a reply with some idiotic attack because you can't seem to express what is in your own head. Ever thought about special needs tutoring? I gave you fox news as a source but apparently you didn't listen to it or you would have heard them talking about every single thing I have stated. Now if there is something specific you would like a source to verify THEN PLEASE SPELL IT OUT ALREADY BECAUSE EVERYTHING IMO HAS BEEN ANSWERED IN THE FOX INTERVIEW!.!.!.!.!... IF IT HASN'T THEN [ WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT VERIFICATION OF? ]
Again BE SPECIFIC and SPELL IT OUT so I can answer you. I don't even have a clue what your asking or want because you can't seem to express yourself in a more finite manor.
schtoofa
April 15th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Lowering the speed limit to 55mph (and enforcing the lower limit) definitely would decrease gasoline demand.
ruker
April 15th, 2008, 06:43 PM
I can't drive....... FIFTY FIIIIIIVE! Fuck that. You being from SoCal should know that 55 mph is like residential speed. ;)
Rand
April 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM
If you live close enough ride a bicycle. Good exercise plus saves money. Plus less money to gas companies and less driving will eventually drive prices down.
The Charles Osgood bit on the radio last week was an eye opener for me. I know it is just factoid type stuff, but the gist was this:
US economy down, people feeling pinch, less driving and disposable income, all of a sudden US gasoline supply level at a decade high. Oil prices still high, of course.
Do gas prices go down in relation to the supply being high? No. The refinery companies respond by cutting production short term to keep prices where they are at. Because there is a gasoline glut. Market saturated.
The gas prices around here went up 10-15 cents the past week. Strange how the capitalistic markets work. Where's my Econ 100 book?
dylan
April 17th, 2008, 10:56 AM
I just think how the price changes literally daily is bullshit.
Name another product besides stock that changes daily.
MightyCawdoR
April 17th, 2008, 05:14 PM
I just think how the price changes literally daily is bullshit.
Name another product besides stock that changes daily.
Yeah no kidding. The gas that is sitting in tanks at pumps has already been refined and has been paid for by the oil company so the price of a barrel of oil today shouldn't effect the price of a gallon of gas that has already been produced by the oil companies.
Griffith-
April 18th, 2008, 09:23 AM
Yeah it really sucks. I stopped in at Rutters this morning to get a drink/smokes and I noticed that in 2 days it had gone from 3.29 to 3.45.
Also I noticed this on the bottom of the page, click. (http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=76547)
I wish gas was still 2.89 ;[
matt-
April 18th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Yeah it really sucks. I stopped in at Rutters this morning to get a drink/smokes and I noticed that in 2 days it had gone from 3.29 to 3.45.
Also I noticed this on the bottom of the page, click. (http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=76547)
I wish gas was still 2.89 ;[
I'm paying the same as I was in that thread :) :) :) and I drive a car that gets twice the gas mileage.
Hooray for moving from Canada back to the states.
BlackThoughT
April 18th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah it really sucks. I stopped in at Rutters this morning to get a drink/smokes and I noticed that in 2 days it had gone from 3.29 to 3.45.
Also I noticed this on the bottom of the page, click. (http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=76547)
I wish gas was still 2.89 ;[
similar ~.15 jump in the past few days where I am too :|
Rand
April 19th, 2008, 07:46 AM
Jumped another 10-15, now 3.69
A blurb in the paper said that yes, refinery production is low because of the glut, and that profit margins on gasoline are low because of the high oil prices.....
Wait, I thought the gas prices were going up because of the high oil prices.
I don't get it.
Magus
April 19th, 2008, 08:55 AM
Here's what to get: you're getting screwed. Me too!
I just paid 3.61 this morning!
Johnny Mullet
April 19th, 2008, 03:35 PM
I haven't put but $30.00 in this thing since I posted this thread......................
marden
April 20th, 2008, 05:58 AM
Car was almost on empty and filled it up. Damn thing just about broke me when I put the $37.00 in it.
Magus
April 20th, 2008, 09:33 AM
My civic only holds 10 gallons as well. Doesn't mean I want to pay 3.60 for gas.
Johnny Mullet
April 27th, 2008, 11:29 AM
Here is a quick update.........................
The little Metro I bought had a cylinder misfire and after diagnosing the problem, I found no compression in one of the 3 cylinders. This means the head needs pulled to see the problem. First thing is to take pictures of all the vacuum lines and hoses so when you get to putting it together, you have a reference point.
The most common issue with these 3 Cylinder engines for a dead cylinder in burnt exhaust valves from either timing or clogged EGR ports.
This guide can be used for all 3 Cylinder Suzuki engines.
Get the car in a suitable work area.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl004.gif
Set engine so Cyl #1 is at top dead center (TDC).
Disconnect battery.
Drain the oil and coolant. (17mm drain plug)
Remove upper rad hose from engine side. (squeeze clamp)
Remove throttle cable and all attached vacuum lines. (12MM locknut & squeeze clamps)
Mark plugs and wires and remove wires, cap and rotor. (8MM bolts)
Mark distributor and remove. (T40 or 12MM)
Remove the air cleaner housing and tube. (10MM bolt and nut)
Loosen the alternator bolts (one on top and 2 below) and remove belt. (12MM bolts)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl003.gif
Remove the water pump pulley. (10MM bolts)
Remove the crank pulley. (5 8mm bolts - don't remove center bolt)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl005.gif
Remove timing belt cover. (8 10MM bolts and loom holders)
Check and correct timing marks and note rotation.
Loosen tensioner and remove belt and mark belt rotation if re-using it. (12MM bolt)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/IMAG0009.gif
Inspect water pump and replace if questionable (wanna do this again?)
Remove exhaust manifold bolts and use heat if tight & pull away from head. (10MM bolts and nuts)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl010.gif
Remove the 4 valve cover nuts and strike the seals off. (10 MM)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl008.gif
Remove the head bolts with a breaker bar from outside in. (8 10MM 12 point bolts)
Get a buddy to lift up head & intake assy and remove vacuum lines, grounds, fuel lines, etc)
Look on cylinder head for the small oil check valve and don't loose it!
Part #2 next post.
Johnny Mullet
April 27th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Place head in a clean work area with lots of room to work.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl014.gif
Put rags in cylinder holes and clean mating surface on head, pistons & exhaust manifold.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl011.gif
Clean head surface and clean out the EGR port.
Remove EGR valve and clean all ports.
Remove the camshaft bolts and cam and remove the gear and replace seal. (6 10MM bolts/studs - 17MM cam bolt)
Remove the lifters put in order.
Use a valve spring compressor with adapter and remove the valves (keep parts ordered and use your buddy)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl012.gif
Clean surfaces and lap in all the valves (intake & exhaust) with lapping compound and re-install.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl016.gif
Re-install lifters and camshaft. (use torque specs from a manual)
Double check all of your work and gasket mating surfaces.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/planetetf/3cyl013.gif
Remove intake from head and replace gasket. (optional)
Get your buddy to help you re-install the head and double check all connections!
Torque all 8 head bolts to specs and order with info from manual.
Install a new timing belt (or used one like a dummy) and check timing marks.
Re-assemble the same way you took it apart and please double check vacuum lines since there is a lot of them.
Clear all DTC if you forgot to disconnect battery.
Fill oil and coolant and fire it up!
Now you may have to set the timing, so reference your manual!
Let the car get to operating temperature and check for leaks and burp the coolant.
Test drive and watch the coolant temp since an air pocket may occur.
Now that you are a certified Suzuki mechanic, get a job!
MV8
April 29th, 2008, 06:04 PM
Yeah it really sucks. I stopped in at Rutters this morning to get a drink/smokes and I noticed that in 2 days it had gone from 3.29 to 3.45.
Also I noticed this on the bottom of the page, click. (http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=76547)
I wish gas was still 2.89 ;[
I'm in San Jose Ca...I paid 3.96 this morning.
Thank AlGore. He cast the vote that started this trainwreck rolling...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/22/will-media-remember-gores-1994-tie-breaking-vote-mandating-ethanol
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