Greatest line from a HL/TF2 staff ever...

[Suicyco]

I love this, I always wonder what the HL/TF2 team thought of bullshit bunny hoppin'


[HL2Central] One thing on the minds of the clanning and pubbing community is bunnyhopping, will this unrealistic movement feature in hl's multiplayer, if it will, is there a way to disable it?


[Gabe Newell] We don't particularly like bunny-hopping.


sweet.

[HomerEBW]

http://www.thecatacombs.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15525

[DarthGreg]

Probably because they don't know how to do it.

[azul]

funny how a company plans to have people continue to play a game when they focus on their interests rather then those of the people that play the game

[greg-]

Originally posted by DarthGreg
Probably because they don't know how to do it.
lol.

Originally posted by azul`
funny how a company plans to have people continue to play a game when they focus on their interests rather then those of the people that play the game

remember bhop'ing wasnt just limited to TFC it was in cs but it was removed more than tfc's limit. remember there are roughly 1.5-2 million cs players, and maybe a few ten thousand have played tfc

I think the TFC community is the only one that considers it an advanced skill, and not a form of exploit hacks.

tfc would be a lot different if they completely removed pretty much everything that allowed people to go even slightly above the speed cap.

[snaggle]

Originally posted by treget
tfc would be a lot different if they completely removed pretty much everything that allowed people to go even slightly above the speed cap.

Yep, it would be called DoD.

dod can be a lot of fun. running around with those rpg's, then firing them and killing someone gives you great satasfaction.

[nightwolf]

Originally posted by Suicyco
I love this, I always wonder what the HL/TF2 team thought of bullshit bunny hoppin'


[HL2Central] One thing on the minds of the clanning and pubbing community is bunnyhopping, will this unrealistic movement feature in hl's multiplayer, if it will, is there a way to disable it?


[Gabe Newell] We don't particularly like bunny-hopping.

[NightWolf]Well i don't particularly like u so fuck off

sweet.

[Moose]

Originally posted by Suicyco
[Gabe Newell] We don't particularly like bunny-hopping.

Yah? WELL I DO SO F OFF.

[rollo]

tfc2 will be da uber ghey if they don't keep the same rules as tfc...ie: bhop speeds, rjs, concs.......

i guess they don't like rj's either since it's an EXPLOIT!!!

[Rommel]

Originally posted by DarthGreg
Probably because they don't know how to do it.

[GhOsT]

THERE IS NO TFC2. TF2 WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE THE NEXT TFC.

Bunny hopping is only required because the game play is too slow in TFC.. because valve towned it down for some reason (ie scouts having only 400 maxspeed).

Now, if every class were faster, you wouldn't need bunny hopping anymore.

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by Ruiner
Now, if every class were faster, you wouldn't need bunny hopping anymore.

[Kaneda]

Originally posted by Ruiner
Bunny hopping is only required because the game play is too slow in TFC.. because valve towned it down for some reason (ie scouts having only 400 maxspeed).

Now, if every class were faster, you wouldn't need bunny hopping anymore.

But thats what creates and defines upper levels of play (to a degree)...

If everyone ran the same speed in track and field would that be interesting at all? No, certainly not. Its the ability to practice and get faster which is alluring.

[GhOsT]

Last time i checked this wasn't track and field. There are a ton of things in TFC that seperate an upper level player from a lower one. Bunnyhopping is a very minor variable now.

[Negatiiv]

I wonder why so many people simply assume that there is magically going to be a TFC2 mod for HL2. As we have seen in the past Valve gives a rats ass about the TFC community. Also having a mod named TFC2 would conflict with their TF2 project, no? Picture this scenario in the future - A typical customer walks into a store and takes a look at this new game that came out, TF2. Thinks to himself, "There is a TFC2 mod for HL2, why would I buy this." Of course the customer wouldn't know that they are totally different games, but Sierra just lost a sale.

TFC2 as a free mod for HL2 would be a conflict of interests for Valve as long as they are planning TF2. I also doubt that they will allow the name TFC2 to be used by a third party for a mod.

It would be nice, but I don't think there will be a TFC2 unless it is called a different name and made by someone or a group from our community or the Euro community. There certainly won't be a TFC2 mod made by Valve.

My only remaining hope is that TF2 is cancelled and a mod is created for HL2 just as it was for HL1, or that TF2 turns out to be different than what we expect.

-[bM]Neg

[GhOsT]

Originally posted by Negatiiv
As we have seen in the past Valve gives a rats ass about the TFC community.

This is why they coninuted to support the game 3+ years after they made it. Oh yea, a free game might i add. Also, there is more to the TFC community than just the people who post on this board.

[Vanquish]

Originally posted by GhOsT
Last time i checked this wasn't track and field. There are a ton of things in TFC that seperate an upper level player from a lower one. Bunnyhopping is a very minor variable now.

Not true, bunnyhopping is the essense of dodging in this game now. Dodging rockets and nades with a bunnyhop fake has become an art form. Those who can multitask the best are those who come out on top. Because of the way this game works, fast paced and all, reaction times aren't the number one factor in 'leetness' like they are in CS or games like that. There is more freedom of movement and a lot more style is involved. Removing bhop will bring it back to that level.

In my opinion bunnyhopping should be left in, only with a server variable to turn it on or off and with an autojump script so newbs don't whine when they can't do it.

[Naufragus]

Originally posted by Ruiner
Now, if every class were faster, you wouldn't need bunny hopping anymore.

I disagree. It's all relative. If you haven't experienced a faster speed for that class, you don't know what it's like so you're completely happy with what you have. They accidentally gave us bunnyhopping and they know they can't take it away without losing 3/4 of us (in TFC that is).

[LinSivvi]

The problem with bunnyhopping is that it would be too much of a learning curve for new players to TF2 to deal with. Valve probably wants to make TF2 fairly mainstream and that cannot happen if it's as close to TFC as we want it. Think about the learning curve in TFC, no (1)Player right now will ever be able to compete in plat, you need time and a lot of practice to be good.

[Streetwolf]

Originally posted by uBeR
You people don't understand.It's not that they don't want it in the game because they can't do it themselves or it's too hrad to do, but rather because it's not intended to be in the game and it never was. They don't want it in the game, and that's how it's going to be.

So many things were not INTENDED to be in the game. Conc jumping is, of course, the most obvious, aside from bhop. Sure they toned it down, but it is still a major part of the game. Same with BHOP! Notice how nearly EVERYONE has learned how to conc jump, at least somewhat decently? If everyone took the time to learn how to bhop, we wouldn't have these stupid arguments. It isn't so hard to learn... it just takes a bit of time. I'm sure everyone could find at least ONE person to teach them.

[bok]

TF2 is not TFC or TFC2. Who gives a rats ass about it. It's not going to be the way you want it. It's going to be more CS DoD like. TFC is here to stay.

[Thrash]

Originally posted by Suicyco
what the HL/TF2 team thought of bullshit bunny hoppin'

[Gabe Newell] We don't particularly like bunny-hopping.

sweet.


For some reason, both of you annoy me equally.

[GhOsT]

Originally posted by Streetwolf
So many things were not INTENDED to be in the game. Conc jumping is, of course, the most obvious, aside from bhop. Sure they toned it down, but it is still a major part of the game. Same with BHOP! Notice how nearly EVERYONE has learned how to conc jump, at least somewhat decently? If everyone took the time to learn how to bhop, we wouldn't have these stupid arguments. It isn't so hard to learn... it just takes a bit of time. I'm sure everyone could find at least ONE person to teach them.

I fail to see what the major difference would be if everyone could bhop vs if noone could bhop at all.

Only thing I want in a new TFC would be--

* New class features or classes even, that'd be pimp.
* Ways to eliminate cheating//exploiting//hacking.
* BETTER GRAPHICS


Other than that, I like TFC PERFECTLY how it is, I wouldn't mind actually getting REAL bhop back anyways. If you take out concs, rjump, bhop, or any of the things the better than average TFC player calls skills, it wouldn't be TFC anymore. But I realize this is TF2 and TFC2 will be a user created mod? Hopefully they will code it will all of our toys in it. Bhop, concs, etc.

[Janus]

Originally posted by dys
1. A cyborg chick with boob shooting rockets, hair that can whip you instead of a crobar and a hose that sprays acid laced water that does damage and blinds the enemy. Dual hand pistols.

2. Lvl 4 sg that has wheels the engi can slowly push around.
No teleport.

3. Backflips in the air.

u can do backflips if u change ur downpitch :-p and the b00bs thing...lol would be funneh. And the Lvl 4 sg, yet another good idea. No teleportation devizzice plizzease. TFC2 as I do understand will probably be a seperate mod from TF2 (well of course) but will probably be made by some fanboy, just like how all of the other mods have been made. They can't necessarily make the decision on what the mod would be called...it could be called We Hate Valve for all that matters, its freedom of speech as long as Valve doesnt package it with it.

[Terminotaur]

I fail to see what the major difference would be if everyone could bhop vs if noone could bhop at all.
One of the most boring mods to grace the planet for one thing. Regular speed without all the glide jump or concing is way too slowpaced. For an example, take any map that has shit concing routes and imagine traversing and capping on it without bhopping.

Meh. TF2 is a different beast. No one knows what it will be like if it isn't vaporware. All the info they released ages ago means absolutely shit, especially since they probably scrapped the original ideas for sucking and have a new engine. As long as the game isn't slowpaced, the abscence of bhopping shouldn't matter too much. Hopefully there's a lot of movement skills to take advantage of..