Marines vs Army

[j c spotts]

Recently in my young life I have made the choice to enlist as a member of The United States Army. Although I have surely made this decision and I am not changing my mind, a Marine recruiter constantly calls my house trying to alter my future in joining The Marines instead of The Army.

For myself, it is a huge decision, because I have chosen to do this as my career, for the next 20 years. But back to this marine recruiter, he is telling me many different ways on how The Marines are so much better and joining them would be a far better career decision, but I completely fail to see how this is. I also realize how it is a recruiters job to convince people to join them but every other recruiter from all the branches are the same exact way.

So I suppose I am looking for some real answers, because the recruiter just gives me close to the same bullshit story every time, "The Marines are elite!" Yeah no shit, we all know that's the saying you defend your lives with, but why is that? Yes you get probably harder and longer training, but as I'm planning to become special forces later on down the road I'll be getting some hard training. They try to give me shit about how it is a tradition, like The Army doesn't have that. Marines have courage and honor, The Army must not.

This recruiter keeps explaining how The Marines give more of a challenge, and that's why most people my age join. I like a challenge, but is that a good enough reason to join The Marines over The Army?

I'm looking for a career I'll be good at in The Army. I can get a guarantee on what I'll be doing for a job, The Marines cannot do this for me. Their defense to this was something like:

"Well if anyone can get a guarantee to do something for a career, how great of a job can that really be?"

This statement has knocked me back a few years when I was like 13 trying to figure out what I wanted to do for a living. This elite Marine guy is pretty much telling me if I go Army and guarantee myself a pretty good career for the next 20 years, I'm making a bad decision.

I'll be honest here I don't know every single thing about The Army, and I know even less about the life of a Marine, but here is where I'm looking for other opinions. Maybe some help from anyone on the inside of either branch, if anything I'm thinking of is completely fucked up and I got the wrong idea, let me know. Any help will do. Although I just can't see how one recruiter can change my opinion, he has said some pretty off the wall shit too. But basically I just need to know is there much of a difference between the two branches? Another Marines recruiter showed me a video from him training with some friends somewhere down south. I happened to notice they were getting trained by The Army?

I thought that was fuckin' incredible.

Marines > Army

That is all.

But in the end, it's all still part of the United States military.

[Vanquish]

JTF-2 > all

[Meltdown]

from my experience the army can give you better benefits financially than the marines can. If you said you wanted to be special forces you might as well stay army and go through airborne and air assualt school. And eventually Ranger school. Those are all taught by the Army.


All in all one thing i do warn you about if you decide to go Army. Do not let them send you to Fort Jackson for your Basic Training. That place is a pos.

Edit: also if you end up joining the army if they give you a checklist of things to buy such as toothbrush cases, water shoes, towels etc. Dont' bother, they force you to buy all their shit at the station you go to. And you don't have a choice about it, they give you a card kinda like a credit card except it's $250 dollars out of your first paycheck and they make you use it to buy your towels and hygienge things there, even if you brought it with you from home. Since everyones shit has to be identical.


Also even though you aren't allowed contraband i highly recommend you bring your cell phone and hide it well. Quite a few people did this and never got caught, you just gotta be smart about it. Also bring any address and writing stuff cuz you'll end up writing a lot of letters even if your remotly close to your family.

[AGT-WildBillGates]

uhhh ut ohh....I am going to Fort Jackson for basic training in like 14 days....

[Moniker]

At least some of us have the balls to fight for our country Some of us don't necessarily need to "fight" in order to serve our country.

[Acharne]

Ok... First let me get this off my chest: I can't stand the army. Their morals are largely different from mine, and they stand largely for uniformity, which I despise (yes yes, I know, crazy kids). Anyhow, I've heard marines are better. That is all.

Moniker:
Some of us don't necessarily need to "fight" in order to serve our country.

There ya go.

[Peltito]

Originally posted by [TiTz]-Auron
...At least some of us have the balls to fight for our country
That is one downright ignorant thing to say. Are you claiming others don't have balls because they don't enlist? I'll make sure to bring that up the next time I'm talking to a doctor, or a lawyer, or the millions OTHER people that work their 9 to 5 in order to make sure you HAVE all the services and that the government HAS all that money that they can pour into the military to pay for your salary. Or perhaps you meant to insinuate that all the Cops and Firemen also have no balls? If you didn't mean this, don't generalize and this issue won't arise.

Btw, I WAS going to go to West Point but I changed my mind because of all the strings attached to the education. Besides, I got accepted at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and decided I'd rather be an engineer. :D

[Meltdown]

To whoever said they wanted to go to Army ocs, that is pretty tough, I've heard from a lot of people how tough OCS is. ROTC is ten times easier, or so i've heard.

And to the guy goign to Ft.Jackson, if they gave you the list of thigns to buy, don't bother, just read my prior post as to why. Main reason being you would buy whatever u saw in a store. However the army wants everyone to be teh same therefore u buy their gear at their store at Jackson. You are goign to lose a lot of weight because I went to Jackson last year in June and man is that place a freaking oven. Prepare to sweat a lot and lose a lot of weight. One thing i highly recommend and they'll tell you there every freaking day. Drink a lot of water. Drink a full canteen before you go to sleep every night. During summer last year we kept having heat casulties left and right. One guy even died while taking his pt test cuz of dehydration. Even one of our drill sgt's passed out at the end of one of our road marches.It gets really bad so always drink water.

[Insolence]

FUCK ALL ARMED FORCES. flee to canada A.S.A.P.

[Kaneda]

Originally posted by nso
FUCK ALL ARMED FORCES. flee to canada A.S.A.P.

Fuck you pal.

[snaggle]

Originally posted by nso
FUCK ALL ARMED FORCES. flee to canada A.S.A.P.

While you're at it, take Toto too...

I'm enlisting in the Naval Reserve once I'm done with my paramedic training next fall.

[Willy Wonka]

Find Twitch in #teh-clan. He just got out of the army. He is a good choice for advice.

[j c spotts]

Originally posted by Peltito
I'll make sure to bring that up the next time I'm talking to a doctor, or a lawyer, or the millions OTHER people that work their 9 to 5 in order to make sure you HAVE all the services and that the government HAS all that money that they can pour into the military to pay for your salary

Not sure if you realized this or not but I will be paying taxes in the military as well as you, and the millions of others you exclaim give us our salary. So is that considered paying for myself then? Taxes suck but I'll pay them, not like in The Army I'm tax-free! Oh how I wish.

[Acharne]

The brunt of the U.S. population isn't in the military. Therefore they are paying more taxes than the military... without them there would be no military. Get off.

[j c spotts]

How in the hell would there be no military? It might not be the most advanced military in the world but there would be one. Money just makes it so much easier.

[Foo]

ARMY > MARINES

Ever see a Marine mine detector? ^_^
But yea...w/e givin a shoutout to all my buds in 160th SOAR: daddy and cousin tony :D Tony dont hit the damn refueling plane.

[Peltito]

Originally posted by [ j ][ c ]spotts
So is that considered paying for myself then?
#1 Whether you pay taxes or not is IRRELEVANT because the government pays your salary. Where does the government get a majority of it's spending money? Ah yes, people NOT in the military.

#2 Yes, you are in effect, paying for yourself.

#3 There is NO military in the world that can exist without it's supporters (i.e. civilians). In fact, to make this simple, without civilians the army would not BE. There WHOLE purpose, in fact, is to support and protect the civilians.

#4 I stand by my claim that your post was ignorant. I hope you tell the SWAT team, or police force, or Firefighters that they have no balls. You have yet to address what is/was the MEAT of the issue.

#5 I have nothing against taxes and that is what ensures my government is around tommorrow and that my lifestyle continues as I desire it to.

I apologise in advance if I sound angry/abrasive as I'm not feeling well. Gotta find the MIDOL... :p

[AxioN]

my whole family is nothing but marines .. so ill pick marines ;) i also know my post is totally not helping so ill stop posting :(

[ethEreal]

Just to clear something up...Going to fight in Iraq is not fighting for your country, so get that illusion out of your mind.

[ethEreal]

It's funny you should say that, because the overwhelming majority in the military are not there out of "patriotism" but for the sheer fact that they needed money for college. Good call, though.

[j c spotts]

Originally posted by Peltito
#4 I stand by my claim that your post was ignorant. I hope you tell the SWAT team, or police force, or Firefighters that they have no balls. You have yet to address what is/was the MEAT of the issue.

i must have missed the point here, i've stated nothing but truth where is anything ignorant?

[AGT-WildBillGates]

Originally posted by ethEreal
It's funny you should say that, because the overwhelming majority in the military are not there out of "patriotism" but for the sheer fact that they needed money for college. Good call, though. You are wrong. The College money is a nice bounus but most of the recruits going in at the same recruiting office as me have parents that are quite well off. College would be no problem moneywise.

I also had a huge talk with my recruiter a few days ago about how most kids do not use the full education benifits and that the recruiters are always trying to convince the recruits to use as much as possible. If you were joining just for college money would you not use as much of it as possible?

You ever go down and talk to the recruiters? Ask why they really joined and why they belived in it enough to try and convince others to join? You have to remmeber not everyone is as big of a selfish asshole as you.

[Peltito]

Oops, don't I feel silly. #4 is in response to TiTz-Auron's statement, not yours. I was supposed to have set it separate. My apologies. Otherwise all my other statements are relevant. I really need to get more sleep. :(

[Halfbreed]

You should have joined the Airforce if you are smart enough to get in. The future of combat systems will be through space and unmanned auronautical systems which will stem from the airforce. The marines will always be necessary because no war can be won in the end without ground forces but the future of tankers and gunners are in danger long term. If you are as young as I think you are and are looking for a life long career in the military join the airforce. Over the next two decades our military will be making changes to all unmanned vehicles and parts of the once called "star wars" program will be completed. Docking stations of unmanned drones in orbit that can drop smart bombs from orbit to targets earth based. Drones that can refuel in orbit or stay over a designated area and display video on demand. Satelites armed with missiles and GPS targeters. Space technology is in the Airforce and if it was me that is where i would want to be in 20 years. :o

oh btw any recruiter is gonna tell you the branch they represent is better because that is there job and they get promoted based on how well they do their job/recruit..

[agent_ze]

Erm about joining a SF unit : You probably won't. People are picked for being the best of the best. Just cause you wish to become a SF operative it doens't mean you are fit for it, cause few people are, just remember that.


(war sucks btw)

[snaggle]

Originally posted by ethEreal
Just to clear something up...Going to fight in Iraq is not fighting for your country, so get that illusion out of your mind.

Excuse me?

[agent_ze]

Originally posted by Zoe
S.F. requires you only to perform at the basic entry standards for an eighteen year old, which is not hard while you are young. what is hard is the selection course for S.F.


which few can pass right? that's what I was trying to say

[wess]

My dad was in the army, I'd say army.

[Moniker]

Personally I would choose the Air Force.

The Marines are somewhat of a year-round seasoned fighting force. So if some shit happens in some out of the way third world country, they call the Marines first. If you're physically capable and fearless, perhaps it would fit.

The Army is more of a large scale military infrastructure. In otherwords, they don't call the Army into battle unless there's something HUGE. When you think of missle silos (unless the AF controls it), area 52, foreign military bases, that's the Army. I like to think of it as kind of a sleeping giant.

If you want technology, go with the Navy or Air Force. If you want guns, go with Marines or Army. If you like siezing drugs and sending Cubans off to die, go with the Coast Guard.

And don't trust recruiters.

[humplick]

Originally posted by cq 1
Good luck getting a 206 on the Army PFT.

206 is nothing man

[agent_ze]

So you'r trying to tell me that the green berets SACRIFICE GOATS TO SATAN?

[kidmO]

Hey man, I have a good grasp for what Marines do and how it compares to the Army, I'm at a service academy right now. You can e-mail me an AIM name or something at this address: m065610@usna.edu or I idle sporadically in deadbydawn or notorious.

I'll be as impartial as I can.

[AGT-WildBillGates]

Originally posted by humplick
206 is nothing man
The required minimum at the end of basic training is 180. It just can not be that hard to get the extra few points.

[agent_ze]

That's nothing, during the portuguese colonial war ( when Angola, Mozambique, Guinea and others fought a guerilla to be independent from us ) some of our soldiers were so brutal and so racist that they would cut the guerrila fighters heads and play soccer with them.

[Lanx0r]

I'd like to start by saying that I am an MP (Military Police for the slow ones...) with the 305th MP Company out of Wheeling, WV. Yes, I am a Reservist, but that don't mean shit. I've had the same training, and I am preparing to take more advanced training once i get my SPC4 this fall. Airborne, SRT Training, and Close-quarters combat training are on my agenda.

Korea (south) is a HARD assignment to land.
I would like to correct this statement. Korea is not that hard to land... especially if you are an MP. My opinion of Korea is also biased due to my MOS. The job of the garrison MP in Korea is the toughest for all MPs. Riots from from opposing Korean factions against our military happen on a daily basis. Also the field work is a bitch. If you get sent there, don't eat anything made of rotten lettuce. It smells awful. The primo place to be stationed in the Army is in Japan. If you get that... you are one lucky son of a gun. People with 15+ years in the Army try hard for that, and still don't get it. Germany and Italy are both nice grabs, too.

as far as actual base pay, all four services pay their ranks the same. this means that a buck private in the army (E-1, or BRAND NEW recruit) makes the same as a private (E-1) in the corps. both services pay you a little extra for being overseas, and a little more for being in a combat zone.

Combat pay is the shit. Not only do you get hazard and combat pay (which can add up to a max of $300 a month), but you don't get taxed while serving in combat. You spend 12 months over there..and you do pretty damn good. An E4 with under 2 yrs of service makes $1,502.70 base... add on the 300 and your making $1,802.70 a month tax free. You can also get a bank account while over there through some units that will give you 10% interest... they take care of you.

So much shit I can tell you about. I could type for a week and still not cover everything I have learned. If anyone who is goin into the service wants to know something, feel free to get ahold of me, I'll be glad to help you out in any way I can. I won't bullshit you like your recruiter did.

O yah, some other things I wanted to mention:
In basic, be stingy with your money. When you get a pass, don't go out and blow it on stupid shit like candy, movies, and soda. It doesn't help you at all. And the Drill SGTs will have a field day PT'ing the shit out of you (literally) if they find out.
The only thing you should spend the extra money on are toiletries. Buy nice towels and good razors. The towels they issue you will take skin off your ass. Razors are a gimme - you don't have a lot of time in the mornings. You can go about a week on each razor blade.

Whoever said getting a 206 on the PT test is crazy. The lowest anyone in my unit scored on the Phase V test was a 220-something. I myself got a 290 on my last one. I did the 2 mile run in 12:30, did 96 sit-ups, and 64 push-ups (at 19 yrs old)... sup. 206 may be tough for the AF or some Ft Jackson chump. :) If people have trouble getting a 180 at the end of Phase V... they should really think about giving up and trying the Canadian military.

And I also saw someone saw Marine training is much harder than Army. lol. You been through both? They both have their ups and downs. But I assure you, my training was no cake walk. I was trained in Echo Company of the 795th MP Battalion at Fort Leonard Wood, MO... two words: high. speed.


Again if anyone wants to know anything about the Army, please feel free to come ask me. I will answer questions as best I can. Get me in IRC in #feud.

Hoo-uh.

[AGT-King]

What kind of jobs would I be able to get in the Army with ASVAB scores ranging in the 70-80 percentile, and a Assoc. in CS? I've been thinking of joining the Marines or Army after I get out of JC for a while now, trying to decide which one I want more..

[Lanx0r]

Well considering you only need a 33 (I think thats it) to pass for the Army, I think you should be in the clear. If you go fulltime, you will have a wide array of jobs presented to you. I scored a 93 on my ASVAB.
They will see what parts of the ASVAB you did well on, and what parts you lacked in. Of course they will give you offer you oppurtunities geared more toward your stronger points. Once they let you know what range of jobs you qualify for, they let YOU pick. Make sure you ask questions and pick the job you really really want. Don't get all nervous and just pick what sounds cool. Really investigate what comes with each of those contracts..they will all be different.
The Associate's will get you nothing but rank, I believe... could be wrong though. I enlisted right before the spring semester of my freshman year in college so I didn't have enough credit.

[Dead_Dan]

Just FYI, joining the army and actually fighting are worlds apart. Don't expect anyone to say that you are noble and brave for trying to join the army.

[Lanx0r]

Originally posted by Dead_Dan
Just FYI, joining the army and actually fighting are worlds apart. Don't expect anyone to say that you are noble and brave for trying to join the army.

rofl. ok guy.

Anyone who is in the Army is a soldier first and foremost. Anyone can be sent into combat when directed. Those of us in the service understand that... we live with it and accept it. How there can be no nobility or bravery in that, you tell me.

[k9black`]

una in the house? id like to hear wut he has to say about this

[kiken]

ive been serving in the navy for 7 years now and i DIDN'T join for the college money i joined for the privledge of serving my country.the college money is a nice added bonus but i get more pride in wearing my uniform out in boston/NEW YORK/St. Louis and many other cities.the feeling you get when a complete stranger walks up to you and say thank you is awsome i will never forget that.

P.S. granted the seals are badass and so is the rangers and force recon but i have ta give my vote to the Air Force PJs.those are some highly trained motha fuckas.........

[Moniker]

I've actually been considering enlisting into the Air Force after college. If not that I've also been giving thought to entering the JAG program for the Navy or the Air Force too.

Ever since I was a kid I always wondered what it would be like to be a commissioned officer in the armed forces.

[snatty]

i only read the first post so..

all i can say is neither. join the airforce if your serious about joining the military. the airforce is so much better, hot chicks, less strict, you'll enjoy it so much more.

i joined the marines, and while it may not be that bad. i can't tell you how many times i've heard that the airforce is the place to be at, from fellow marines. the marine corps can make you go nuts, it's alot of bs that you have to put up with, and you'll probably want to quit right away. but some people like this sort of demeneted lifestyle. if someone told me i could get out right now, i would say where do i sign. but hey, the military life isn't for everyone, maybe i just didn't have the greatest experience. some love it. so think hard before you sign that contract, your stuck with it for the next 4 years.

[Lanx0r]

your stuck with it for the next 4 years.

Mine was 6 years plus 2 years on IRR. :(

[kiken]

one way to look at it is
marines go in and clear the beaches and perform recon missions.
the army(who IS going to lose to NAVY this year)basicly goes in and kills everything in its path on it way to the mission objective.

as for what snatty said about the air force its a yes its a nice thing to do IF you dont mind staying the same paygrade most of your enlistment.i know a shit load of members who got out after 6 years w/ the airforce and were still E-3's.
while the marines and army advancement is faster at least up to staff sgt.

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by nso
FUCK ALL ARMED FORCES. flee to canada A.S.A.P.


your a fuckin pussy ass faggot. Semper Fi fuck all the rest.
And you sukkkkkkk at tfc.

[kiken]

Originally posted by Ghandi
Semper Fi fuck all the rest.


Department of the Navy :D

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by kiken
one way to look at it is
marines go in and clear the beaches and perform recon missions.
the army(who IS going to lose to NAVY this year)basicly goes in and kills everything in its path on it way to the mission objective.


Ever been in the Marine Corps???
Did'nt think so. The Marines have special forces units just like the Army, Navy, and Airforce do. And it's not all about recon missions although that is a large part of what they do. Do some research before you start talking about things that you do not understand. The reason that the Corps clears beaches is because the Army can't. The Marine Corps was developed as an amphibious assault force because our military was lacking in that area. Ever heard the term "Devil Dog"? It's the name givin to the marines that fought in WWII by the Germans. Not just the ones on the beach. Marines are included in every part of warfare, air, land and sea. Yes, the Marine Corps has aviators as well as foot soldiers, snipers, MP's, and most other military occupations minus medical. If you want to know about the Marine Corps, buy some books, or better yet, ask a Marine!!!!!!!!

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by kiken
Department of the Navy :D


Yeah, the men's department!:D

[kiken]

ok ghandi your right ive only been in the Navy for 7 years now i never heard of the marines.anyway enough about that and what you said above is exactly what i was trying to say only a shortend version.besides you know us Sailors need you bullet sponges around just hard to find you walking tree sometimes....JARHEAD:D

special forces for the marines LRRP.ohh and Fast company i think i could be wrong on the secound one though.

[Ghandi]

The above posts were written by my extremely peeved roomate, he was a marines for 5 years and took a bullet in the leg when he was in Somalia.I think it's wrong in general to label the marines as stupid jarheads, as if none of them are intelligent. He was also a senior rifle instructor and participated in a ton of those shooting tournaments. I believe he did the 800 and 1,000 meter contests. He came in 10th in one of the larger ones, out of about 900 troops.

Above all you need to remember that these people are the reason we have the luxury of raising our children in a somewhat peaceful society, It's not a contest Marines are just as important as the Army or the Air Force ETC.
And you can't sit there and tell me that being a marine is a cakewalk, He saw a TON of combat pretty much everywhere they took him.A lot of our troops are lucky to be alive, as for me...I'll stick to TFC.

[Ghandi]

We "bullet sponges" appreciate the squids giving us rides when we have to go and fight somewhere. It's pretty comfy on ship isn't it? Don't feel bad though, someone has to prepare chow for us when we're beechside kickin ass.:cool:

[kidmO]

For people wondering about what the Marines main task is,it is "A Force of Readiness". A rapidly deployable force that can strike anywhere in the world on rapid deployment.

The Corps has always struggled for institutional survival. From 1775-1899 the Marines were sailors at sea. Basically doing ship to ship fighting and making sure the crew doesn't mutiny. From 1899-1941 the Marines were considered a Colonial Infantry, deployed around the world to expand US power, assist in World Wars, etc. From 1900-1945 (Dates overlap with Colonial Infantry) the Marines were an amphibious assault force. They took beatings but still kept fighting at memorable battles such as Tarawa and Iwo Jima. Lejuene and Ellis were the main proprietors of the "island hoppiing" techniques. However, after the invention of the nuclear bomb, Truman thought that Marines were no longer needed as an amphibious assault force because strategists all said the US would use nucler weapons for that job. The Marines needed to change their main purpose or they would be elminated, which, as I said above, is "A Force of Readiness".

[kiken]

Originally posted by Ghandi
We "bullet sponges" appreciate the squids giving us rides when we have to go and figt somewhere. It's pretty comfy on ship isn't it? Don't feel bad though, someone has to prepare chow for us when we're beechside kickin ass.:cool:

and we sailors love watching you all sit arround all day while we are out at sea then hogging all the good chow before end of shift for us....:D anyway man its all good no hard feelings here nothing better than a friendly jerk off between the branches to show who has the bigger balls.:cool:

[kidmO]

Our Marine meant to say World War I, the Battle of Belleau Wood is where the name Devil Dog, or you might know it as Teufel Hunden, came from. Pretty amazing stuff the Marines did there. In fact, the French renamed the land of the battle from Bois Belleau to Bois de la Brigade de Marine, Woods of the Briggade of Marines.

[Ghandi]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kidmO
[B]Our Marine meant to say World War I, the Battle of Belleau Wood is where the name Devil Dog, or you might know it as Teufel Hunden,

My bad, kidmO is correct.:rolleyes:

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by von_Klagg

I can't think of a single european amphibious assault which used American Marines as a mainforce. Let me know if I am incorrect. [/B]


Normandy?

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by kiken
and we sailors love watching you all sit arround all day while we are out at sea then hogging all the good chow before end of shift for us....:D anyway man its all good no hard feelings here nothing better than a friendly jerk off between the branches to show who has the bigger balls.:cool:



As for chow, best for the best, as for the hard feelings, s'all good.:) I still say, hoorah Marine Corps. Props to those other dudes too. We need all the branches. Someone has to feed and supply the Marines. Thanks guys. I'm playin, got nothin but love for everybody with enough balls to join the military.

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by [TiTz]-Auron
Also, the Marines pick your job for you I think...not too sure though.


The Marines only pick your MOS (Military Occupational Speciality) if you elect to sign up for an open contract, which you can do in any branch I believe. After you take the ASVAB, they will evaluate your score and offer you any occupation that your abilities qualify you for. The contract you sign is up to you. You do not have to score higher on this test to qualify for the Army than you do to qualify for the Marine Corps. A widley held misconception. ooooorrrraaaahhhh Marine Corps.

[snaggle]

Do they attach hospital corpsmen to Marine combat units? (My parents are worried I'll become a bullet magnet or something on the front lines if I sign up...go figure.)

[Lanx0r]

As for chow, best for the best, as for the hard feelings, s'all good.

the Chili Macaroni MRE fucking owns.

[kidmO]

Snaggle, I believe that there is a medic per each platoon, so one for every 40 guys or so. He'd follow you anywhere you went in combat, as he is armed too.

If you want to get a good handle about what a MArine grunt does during war, read the book Fields of Fire, by James Webb. Webb was a Naval Academy grad who later became SecNav after being a pretty highly decorated grunt in Vietnam.

[kiken]

hospital corpsman are in the navy and yes they do detach one or two per platoon.but trust me the marines protect you like gold.after all your the one keeping them alive.so dont worry

[Insolence]

Originally posted by Kaneda
Fuck you pal.

fuck you and snaggle, i come from a long line of draft dodger. I serve my country by voting.

[Insolence]

Originally posted by Ghandi
your a fuckin pussy ass faggot. Semper Fi fuck all the rest.
And you sukkkkkkk at tfc. Do i even know you, and does my skill matter in tfc when it comes to political issues. I'm going to school to study poli sci so STFU!!

[kiken]

and the fact you're from a long line of draft dodgers makes you special?i mean does it seem right some one is out there without a father because he died in a war,but your cowardly DADDY is alive and kicking because he was too scared to do what was asked of him when he was needed?
you ask me for my opinion your rights as an american should be revoked if you dodge the draft.hell why dont we do what most of the world does mandotory military enlistment.

[Lanx0r]

As a member of the Armed forces, I would hate to see mandatory service in the U.S.

We get enough pussies who VOLUNTEER. They always wimp out and run away, "go insane," or kill themselves. And those who somehow survive training and the countless blanket parties and beatings from guys like me, end up like that fucking Sgt. who threw a grenade in his commander's tent - killing people.

Fuck that with a barb-wired condom.

I don't want a pussy for a battle buddy. Sit their asses at home and let 'em stare all googly-eyed at the News - watching us fuckin owning anyone who crosses us... bitching about how our reasons for fighting are "immoral" or for the "wrong reasons."

[kidmO]

Regardless of what you say about Lanx0r's logic, he is right about having to be confident in your "battle buddy", or I hope to be calling them swim buddies sometime in the future. I would not want anybody who has to second guess whether or not they are going to pull the trigger. I have to be confident that I am trusting my life with someone that not only is good at his job, but wants to be there, or else I am as good as dead.

[Lanx0r]

Originally posted by a Canadian - roflzzz

A good reason to have a military, if nothing else, is to keep this genius and his "battle buddys" employed and away from normal people.

First off, try using ie instead of the y... sounds a little better.

And by the way, I am not active duty. I am in the Army Reserve. So I unfortunately have to mingle with some of these "normal" people of whom you speak.

But oh well, what do I know. I am just a dumb grunt with a full ride to a $35k/year college, who is also double majoring in Economics and International business... what the fuck do I know about anything, eh?

And before anyone accuses me of it, I will go ahead and tell you that I did not join the Army for the college benefits. I had 90% of school payed off already through scholarships, work studies, and a legacy grant. I joined the Army to serve my country after the 9/11 attacks. Its been almost 2 years since I enlisted, and I still believe it to be the best decision I have ever made.

Don't be so judgemental of what I say though until you serve in your nation's armed forces. Or do you already? Seems like sitting at home, watching the news, being appauled at the "atrocities" the Americans are committing should be right up the Canadian military's alley. ;)

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by nso
Do i even know you, and does my skill matter in tfc when it comes to political issues. I'm going to school to study poli sci so STFU!!


No you don't know me, if you did I wouldn't like you anyway and your skill at tfc is irrelevant, I just felt like insulting your stupid ass. Your welcome for serving your country pussy. O.K. I'll stfu cause you said too, and I'm not going to mess with anyone who is going to school to study poli sci. roflmao!!!!!!!

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by Lanx0r
Seems like sitting at home, watching the news, being appauled at the "atrocities" the Americans are committing should be right up the Canadian military's ally. ;)



Oh yeah, Canada does have a military don't they?! Sorry, almost forgot.

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by nso
fuck you and snaggle, i come from a long line of draft dodger. I serve my country by voting.


and somehow you find the strength to go on. You got guts buddy. At least you have a strong family tradition to stand on. Just admit your a pussy and stfu yourself. You don't even need to be in this thread. COWARD SPAWNED BY COWARDS.

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by Lanx0r
As a member of the Armed forces, I would hate to see mandatory service in the U.S.

We get enough pussies who VOLUNTEER. They always wimp out and run away, "go insane," or kill themselves. And those who somehow survive training and the countless blanket parties and beatings from guys like me, end up like that fucking Sgt. who threw a grenade in his commander's tent - killing people.

Fuck that with a barb-wired condom.

I don't want a pussy for a battle buddy. Sit their asses at home and let 'em stare all googly-eyed at the News - watching us fuckin owning anyone who crosses us... bitching about how our reasons for fighting are "immoral" or for the "wrong reasons."


Well said!

[Ghandi]

Originally posted by snaggle
Do they attach hospital corpsmen to Marine combat units? (My parents are worried I'll become a bullet magnet or something on the front lines if I sign up...go figure.)



every unit has several corpsmen depending on the size of the unit and also naval surgeons are assigned to battalions. By the way, Corpsmen are the shizznit. Make friends with them, they will take care of you.

[kiken]

Originally posted by von_Klagg
*appalled

Don't give me that crap about not being judgemental until I'm in some military. I'll judge dumbass morons if I want.

so i take you enjoy judging yourself infront of the mirror everyday?

[Kraken]

Originally posted by Vanquish
JTF-2 > all

Canadian special forces - I heard they were very good. My friend has a book describing them in details.

[Halfbreed]

/me bans ghandi from posting another time since hes posted 9876987698769 times out of the last 9876987698770 times

[Sutterkane]

this is a little off topic, but if any of you guys posting or reading in the services, I'll give some advice of: go to okinawa japan if you ever get the chance. Great fucken place.

[Moniker]

Wow this thread is still going? Anyway I've actually signed up for ROTC classes this fall. If i like it, with any luck, I'll outrank you Army and Navy pukes.

*evil laugh*

[Insolence]

Originally posted by Ghandi
and somehow you find the strength to go on. You got guts buddy. At least you have a strong family tradition to stand on. Just admit your a pussy and stfu yourself. You don't even need to be in this thread. COWARD SPAWNED BY COWARDS.
Don't ever speak of my father or my great grandfather like that.....I'll have you know my uncle served in vietnam and was a decorated soldier, and my grandfather served in WWII, it's not like they all dodged the draft. It's just my dad and my
great-grandfather, and both for good reasons, if i was called upon to searve in a war like WWII i woulda been there, but vietnam and the civil war could have been avoided.

[kidmO]

Originally posted by Moniker
Wow this thread is still going? Anyway I've actually signed up for ROTC classes this fall. If i like it, with any luck, I'll outrank you Army and Navy pukes.

*evil laugh*

It would be a race to graduation between you and me. What school are you at and when do you graduate?

[ep]

i am very late to this thread. i served 4 years in the marines & have experience during that time with all services:

i can give you a 10000 reasons why marines > all other services ( paris island, uniforms, respect, etc.) i remember when i would go back home & people say i am crazy for joining the marines should of joined the army. well marines look at that as respect. we are not for the weak.

but the main reason i can give for joining the marines is there is no gay army of one. marines is all about brotherhood. the guys you will meet will always be your brother. you dont get that in the army unless you are a memember of a elite unit (which no one joins the service & goes directly into a elite unit. yes you can join the rangers but the rangers are like basic marine infantry. now delta force those motherfuckers are bad) the fact is once a marine always a marine. i have gotten jobs cause the boss use to be a marine. ask police departments. they will take marines over anyone.

if you want easy join the air force but if you want to be a true warrior be a marine. no bs or what. i dont give a fuck about miltary anymore but it is a fact.

btw the guy is right that marines use different services to train. we take the best from all services. remember marines are by land, sea, & air.

[Moniker]

Originally posted by kidmO
It would be a race to graduation between you and me. What school are you at and when do you graduate? UT-Knoxville -- I graduate in 3 years (I had to take both freshman and sophomore classes though).

The only thing that worries me is leadership lab. I don't know what day it is or what time it's at and it could possibly throw a wrench into my schedule.

Edit: as for the marines, yes they're badasses, but the thing is they're pretty a microcosm of the entire military, except much more combat oriented. They all fight for the same country. It's just pretty much of a choice of what you specialize in doing.

[kidmO]

I graduate in three years too... what service are you going to join?

[Naufragus]

Army, Army, where ya at? Get out there and lose some fat.

Learned that for a marine friend of mine...

[Moniker]

Air Force....I was reallly really interesting in being a navigator/EWO but my hay fever disqualifies me (unless I get a waiver, but that doesn't seem to stand a good chance).

[Lanx0r]

Woot! Back from Ottawa, and I see I got a piece of fanmail, yay.

Originally posted by that funny Canadian guy, von_Klagg
*appalled


A suggestion, genius, if you want to talk shit about spelling and/or grammar, check your own. A simple typo doesn't make you look stupid, but commenting on it with a post containing typos makes you look like a fool. Fortunately, this doesn't shake my opinion of you so far, as I already thought you a fool from your earlier ravings.

Don't give me that crap about not being judgemental until I'm in some military. I'll judge dumbass morons if I want.

I was not going the grammar route. If I would have, I would have included paragraghs and better sentence structure. I, however, was too lazy to do that. I only pointed out the "buddys" mistake because that type of spelling really bugs me. Call it a pet peeve if you will - I was not being the typolice.

And to respond to your comment about judging "dumbass morons:" if you wish to flame me, feel free... but please try to do it in a witty fashion from now on? Thanks! :) I mean seriously - your statement was about as weak as my country's beer.

To Sutterkane - Yeah man, as I said before, getting Japan as your duty station is a dream come true.

And to evil philosopher - I don't really see how any one branch is "better" than the others. They all kick ass at what they do. Sure, I may poke fun at each service from time to time (even at the Army somtimes! :D), but its all in good spirits. When it comes down to it, they are equal... that is why we have the strongest/best military in the world.

*edit
And oh yeah, I also dislike the "Army of One" slogan. I thought the "Be All You Can Be" slogan owned.

Be... all that you can be... (woooahhh) with a messed up life and a messed up wife in the AAAAAArmy. /In Living Color

[Foo]

Originally posted by Penguin
Navy has better programs than both, including one of the most respected in the world, the Seals. But you have to realize exactly what you want to do.

If it's special ops, the marines or navy is the way to go.
If it's flying, the navy or air force is the way to go.
If it's ground assault, its the marines or army.
If its anything mechanical, they all will specialize in something.

If you really aren't sure exactly what you want to go into, the army navy or mariens all have stuff for you.

Marines have planes/helis, ground, and water support...so they basically do a little bit of everything. Ground, air and water, but at a smaller scale.

Navy specializes in air and water. So subs, planes, and boats are the way to go, but you also cant forget about their small, elite ground team. They also hold the best college out of all of them, the Naval Academy.

Army is basically ground only. Tanks, humvee's, foot, as well as special ops in ground troops.

Air force is basically flying or fixing stuff. It's not as respected as the others, but still very respectable in the oustide world. I would err away from the air force if you want to make a full blown career out of it. They have the best plane out there, but the rest are pretty shitty imho.

That basically sums it all up as basic as possible. I tend to sway toward the navy due to their overall best plane selection (since thats what I may want to do), but also have the best college too. My second choice would be the marines.

Dont take my word for anything, its mostly opinion. --btw, the marine recruiters are annoying. :/

Army is ground only? EHERMMM.... There are a handful of airborne units that include helocopters and C-130's. One is a spec ops unit labeled the 160th SOAR nightalkers.It includes Mh-6's, Littlebirds and Chinooks. They are known as the best of the best when it comes to night ops in avaiation of helocopters. They fly in SEALs , rangers , delta , and some of the pilots(after retirement) do tons of freelance work.(granted that they are not a terrorist orginization.) My dad was the regimental 1st Sgt. for the 160th and my cousin is now a Warrant officer 2nd class in the 160th. Hes a Blackhawk pilot btw.IMO the Army has more for to offer for the average joe.

[snaggle]

I can't decide between going full Navy or Naval Reserve Hospital Corpsman. With the Reserve I can have a life, but my chances of getting in with a combat unit are less...I'd kind of like to do the whole quasi-Marine combat medic thing.

[Grinch]

I recently enlisted in the Army. I ship January 13th to Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. I'm 95B (new MOS code 31B), Military Police, and I fully intend to apply for CID (Criminal Investigations Division) as soon and as often as possible until I get accepted.

From talking to many people in the Marines and the Army, I've come to the conclusion that the two basic trainings are equally challenging. The Army basic is very very physical, while the USMC basic puts the most emphasis on mental conditioning (i.e. staying awake for three days straight). Statistically, as per the current "war" in Iraq, it seems to me that the Army actually delivers better training, since the majority of casualties in Iraq incurred by American forces were friendly fire accidents, mostly at the hands of Marines. That's not to deter people from the Marine Corps, I just think that basically what we're experiencing is people being trained too quickly and not comprehensively enough, and then sent into battle. The result is a lot of trigger happy guys that don't really know what they're doing, but are armed with fully automatic assault rifles.

[kiken]

you wanna talk talk bout a tough boot camp look into the coast guard.im not making this up either.

[snaggle]

Originally posted by kiken
you wanna talk talk bout a tough boot camp look into the coast guard.im not making this up either.

Climbing up and over the USCG Eagle's highest yardarm...no thank you.

[Grinch]

Well, Klagg, I must confess I'm doing it for selfish reasons. I plan on doin PI/Bailbondsman (bounty hunter) work in the civilian world, and Army MP to CID is the best training I can get for that. I can deal with being a part of the military industrial complex for a few years in exchange for being able to do what I want to do in life.

Plus, I can always fund world socialist revolutions with the money I get from the Army. JUST KIDDING, JOINT CHIEFS... maybe.

[rusty]

Lets get something straight here, I wouldnt classify one branch as being better than the other, both are equally filled with young men and women willing to fight and die for this country and its freedom, I respect this guy for wanting to join the service in the first place. Just remember its people like this who sign their name on the doted line, so you dont frigging have to someday, remember that.

Personall i am joining the army, I don't know alot about the core but the army offers alot more MOS's, not to mention the chance to be airborne or even a ranger. If you plan on being an officer I would go through colledge and then officer school. If you enlist you can pick what MOS you want like infantry or reconissance for example. If you become an officer its not that easy, you list 3 brances you want like infantry, engineer, and something else, one from each section (combat ready, combat support, something else) and you list them in order from the one u want most to least and the army decides for you by the time your done officer school, its all about the needs of the army.

If you are going for special forces or something more elite then I would definately go for army. The usmc has a bunch of fine soldiers, but the only real sf in the jarheads would be the marine force rcon, where you have to be a riflemen and have to serve as a riflemen for 3 years to even qualify.

The army on the other hand has airborne, rangers, special forces (green berets) and even Delta force, you can pretty much do anything and there is alot more oppurtunities such as airborne school, air assault school, sniper school, flight school, pathfinders, diver school ect ect it goes on and on.

Most people rank the special forces like this: Delta Forces, SEALS, Rangers, Berets, Rcon, Nightstalkers.

Also to whoever said the Marines have courage and honour, please dont ever f*#*#$#* forget that the army has these same values. For anyone who has been to army basic you know what I am talking about, your first week they drill a few important words into your head.

[rusty]

I agree, army basic is equally as challenging as the usmc basic. My point being was that whether you go army or marines or any other service its a good choice, there is fine soldiers in all of the branches and they all deserve a great amount of respect.

Although the rangers/airborne are not special forces, and yes they are special ops, they are still badass. I dont see how you could even compare a marine to a fully tabbed out ranger or delta soldier. All the special ops and sf units have different purposes. If they were all the same then what the hell would be the point. They each have different jobs and roles and each are very good at what they do. Not to mention how can you compare a marine to a army soldier who has been through basic training, ait, airborne school, ranger school. Not to mention army soldiers with the infantry MOS go to basic at Ft. Benning and that is no walk in the park at all, that place is hell.

Also I don't know what you heard about Delta, or what you gained out of watching Black Hawk Down with your buddies but the rangers and delta's deserve a ton of respect, not only have they been involved in ever major U.S. combat since Vietnam but they do a fine job aswell.

[Rimuladas]

i would rather have 1 marine on my side than 10 army guys. I know veterns of both, and current elisties of both. Marines own all.

[At0mic_PC]

All recruiters are liars. You should stab them in the face while you have the chance.

[CharLie Hu$tLe]

Originally posted by evil philosopher
i have gotten jobs cause the boss use to be a marine. ask police departments. they will take marines over anyone.


evil where do you idle? if you wouldnt mind talkin to a marine recruit id like to ask ya some questions. id like to become a police officer once im out and peeps are tellin me marines is the way to go, id like to talk to you though. so you can leave your channel here or find me in #3, either way id appreciate it.

[Kobe]

M y
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ummm carry on..

[rusty]

I have the utmost respect for any soldier in any of the branches. Personally I am going for airborne or possibly rangers depending on what i can get in my contact, I like to think as para's and rangers as the best of the best. Someone told me that marines kick army ass, but when it comes down to rangers and sf they are no match.

[typeA]

I'm planning on going 18-x. I would like to talk to some of you guy who know about recruiter tactics. I don't want to get fucked on my contract.

[typeA]

lol, I saw your post on the Ranger forum and that Marine that flamed you...

[janordy]

Well I gotta say 3 of my friends are joining the marines and let me say this, they are the dumbest people, who I would never trust with any kind of firearm let alone my life on a battlefield. They are joining the marines because quote "We want to kill people and the army is some bitchs", joining for just that seems like a wrong reason to me. I would never join the marines knowing the people like them are watching over my back. They shoot their guns in their back yard, that is less than 100x100 feet in a populated area and less than 500 feet from a damn public school. I think they are total dumb shits with guns and while they are my friends and always will be they are too stupid to trust in a battle. Wait 2 months to see if the marines accept them or not, if they do I would never join the marines.

[rusty]

yes you can join the rangers but the rangers are like basic marine infantry.


HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you got to be fucking kidding me, marines may be a bit better trained than basic army, no way in hell the come close to rangers, sf, airborne, or delta. HAHAHAHAH thats some funny shit. Comparing rangers to marines, rangers pound jarheads so far into the ground.

[typeA]

yes, please look into what the RIP is before you compare the Marine basic to Rangers.

[Dexster]

Alright first i want to say I don't want to start a big arguement but where do all of you get these ideas that Air Force doesn't make as much as the other branchs? Everyone's pay is based off similar ranks and the same exact pay grade. Being a Army E-5 you will make as much as a Air Force E-5 there is no if ands or buts about it. If your in the Air Force and you request to go to a base chances are you will go to that base. The Air Force and the Navy do train well rounded people compared to the other branchs. The Marines and the Army are known for training people at one thing so they are only good at one thing. The marines will take you in a class room a few weeks before your schedualed time to get out of service and talk to you and tell you " What are you going to do on the outside? You don't know anything"

If you go in Marines / Army go Intel or Com. Chances are you will be services / infantry or something like that which sucks....

ROTC is the easiest way to become an officer everyone knows it and they aren't affraid to say it. The acadamy is the hardest way and usually produces Generals. My recommendation for anyone that wants to go in the military as an officer would be to go in the Air Force after you get your degree and work your ass off for 2 years then put in for a commission. You will have to do 12 weeks at a OTS (same as OCS) and you will come out as a butter Bar making around 3000 a month which isn't all that much.

If you plan on having a family one day and you are in the military good luck devorce rate in the military is at 80% right now for active duty. This is the reason why I am getting out :). You will deployed around once a year regardless of the rank you are and what branch you are in. Air Force Typical deployments are set for 3 months , Navy,Army,Marines are 6 to a year.

If your in the Air Force doesn't mean you are going to go to all the nice bases either. I have a friend that has been to every single base in the Afganistan AOR (22 bases total) 4 are non existant (classified) He is only a E-4 but he makes around 4500 a month with all of his per diem and things in the mix.

Also to let you know that Marine recruiter is breaking the UCMJ. It is illegal for a recruiter to talk to someone that has already signed for another branch. So tell your Army recruiter what this guy is doing and chances are the marine recruiter will be fired.

Don't rip yourself off of your own time / life man seriously. Look at every branch of service with an open mind. Don't tell the recruiters that you have already talked to another one see what they have to offer you. This is going to be 2-6 years of your life either 1) spent having fun or 2) Spent regreting every minute of it. Don't look at the money feature of it either. If they are going to pay you a lot of money to join its for a reason. The job itself won't sell. They have to offer people money so they will join in that Job. Don't go open any career field. I signed up as a 2T2 which is Air Transportation and now I am over here in Kyrgyzstan doing a 2X3 job (Com guys job).

Look out for yourself because no one else will give you any help in the service its you yourself and you. Once in a while you will get a supervisor who will have your back and teach you things but when you fuck up its going to be you with a high ranking officer with your supervisor standing next to you in his service dress explaning why you are such an idiot and that it won't ever happen again.

I hope I was a little bit of help. Regardless of what branch you join Good Luck to you and be safe. pay attention in your training and enjoy the service GO OVERSEAS! its so much more fun being at a base overseas than in the states. Try Germany on for size :)

[Moniker]

Feh. Don't join the military for any reason except that you really want to be there. 2-4 years is a long time, especially when you're deployed.

[Dexster]

Originally posted by Moniker
Feh. Don't join the military for any reason except that you really want to be there. 2-4 years is a long time, especially when you're deployed.

amen!

and you will be deployed, I have been in for 2 1/2 years and I have been deployed for 10 months of it.

[Dexster]

Originally posted by Peltito
I'll make sure to bring that up the next time I'm talking to a doctor, or a lawyer, or the millions OTHER people that work their 9 to 5 in order to make sure you HAVE all the services and that the government HAS all that money that they can pour into the military to pay for your salary. engineer. :D

God what I wouldn't kill for to have a 9-5 job. I signed up to work a nice 8 hour shift then GG Twin Towers and now I have been working nothing but 12 hour shifts 5 days a week. Even went 3 months working 14 hour shifts without a day off. But I do agree people are paying taxes its not a deal with people being brave or not its all about patriotism and your feelings of giving back to your country or supporting your government. Or there are those retards that signed up for the college :) They are definitally loving life right now. Gots to love the middle east universities.

[Dexster]

Alright I haven't started this shit up but I am going to. For the most Part Reserves are Pieces of shit. Ask any active duty person, Reserves come in on there man days and ruine everything that is going and they sit around are lazy they have no modivation they just want to do there time and get out. Which is understandable if I only did it 2 days a week I would feel the same way more than likely (I am going to become a reserve officer after I get my degree FYI). Reserves for the most part do not know what its like to be in the military. They went to Basic Training yes. They went to tech school yes. Other than that they don't have to worry about PCS's TDY's (other than anual tours) the only thing they worry about is getting activated and most units do not get activated. So you can talk all you want but until you walk the walk of an active duty military personnel you honestly don't know shit. (no offese i give this speach to E-8 reservists. *(even gave it to a Army Major yesterday :) ).

Most people that come active duty fall under these catagories 1) Patriotic 2) College or 3) They had nothing better to do. The thing that makes most people want to stay in the military is hands down the comradity of being around people with the same likes / dislikes as you and you rally around with each other. The military is a huge working machine everyone needs each other and things start fucking up when one person doesn't do his or her job.

If your signing up for the military for money. DO NOT DO IT. Go reserve get the training and give yourself a vaction from your real life every once in a while to get dressed up and play GI Joe. Military makes the same as the nations poverty level. (I am being serious) Its not good money but its great benifits. So keep that in mind.

If you are going to go career in the miltary you mine as well sign up for something that you know will be enjoyable by you for the rest of your life. If you go in the army think about how good of shape your body will be in when your 40 and retire? Its going to be pretty messed up. For example my career field most people get 40% + disablity because its so hard on your body moving so much weight. That is why my job is so hard to retain people because no one wants to do it for very long.

Trust Zoe's opinion because he is pretty dead on with what he says. The places that you will travel in the military are going to stick with you forever. I have so many Afganistan Stories it will make me blue in the face if i had to tell them all. Same with Pakastan and same with now Kyrgyzstan. Also it gives you the chance to meet other cultures. I love the New Zealand culture. If you get the chance in the military go overseas to the Pacific Theater you make great money and thats when you start getting a nice savings account being in the military.

DO NOT TRUST YOUR RECRUITER THEY WON'T TELL YOU HALF THE SHIT THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. THEY ARE A SALESMEN.

If you want the facts come talk to someone that is below the rank of E-5. The troops know how things are now. You get some gun-ho NCO's who always say. " THE MILITARY NOW IS SO SOFT, WHEN I WENT THROUGH BASIC I GOT THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF ME FOR NOT CUPPING MY HAND RIGHT". Ask anyone in the military about there experiences and you will have a friend forever we all love sharing our experiences with you. Unless your talking to a POW or someone involved in a eithnic clensing event or something those guys are very sensitive about subjects.

All and all you are serving your country and deaths will happen. You are putting your life on the line and you may be not allowed to talk to them because of the Clasifications of the event. Its hard hiding things from your loved one but a saying the 101st has " Bad Notes will sink the Navy's Boats" Meaning you write something home or say something wrong you can kill thousands of people with just a word. I have seen what happens when people can't shut there holes. I had to ship out a MC-130's crew in wooden caskets with Flags over them. 10 people dead because of a soldier talking to his wife about the missions he was flying (he was one of the dead).

The military is a very rewarding and very though life. Its something that you were either born for or something you were born without. Don't let some recruiter talk you into signing up for the wrong thing or you may be mission out on a lot more enjoyable 20 years of your life.

On a softer note. I think we should get all of the Military together in the community. Every Branch Reserve / Active Duty and be able to help these kids out whenever they have questions and stuff because these posts have been occuring quite a bit. What you say Airborne, Zoe and the others?

[Majin-Buu]

After serving 12 years with Uncle Sams Misguided Children I can tell you this, there is no financial difference as some woulf have you the think. The only thing would be your quality of life on the bases. The Army and Air FOrce will always have more ppl and better Bases than the Navy and Marines due to thier bigger budget.
AS for who does more ... well its the NAvy Marine Team.. this is no BS.
If you want to travel and see some fun but weird shit thats the place... but be warned it isnt all fun you will work 16-18 hour days at times sometimes longer.
AS for a guarantee of what your job will be .. that is done by your ASVAB score..... on a comparison table..
if you scored shity youre fucked if you did well you will be pretty much ok.
Look at a job you could do on the outside if you ever decide to get out.

Have fun and GOds speed,

[typeA]

I just signed yesterday with Army. 4 year contract with 11x infantry and option 40 (Airborne then RIP). Received $3,000 bonus for my MOS (11x) and another $3,000 for my 30 college hours.

[snaggle]

Say hello to the Academy's version of the thread that wouldn't die.

[rusty]

typeA, good luck in RIP man, you better start getting ready for that shit right away. Do you also hang around armyranger.com ?? pm me in #clan_lfa next time you get a chance.

[who]

From my experiences in the nam I'd say marines are better at raping but the army takes the cake in pillaging/burning. To be serious though I thought Marines were like Army v2.0, the smarter and better trained version.

[PHISH]

We get enough pussies who VOLUNTEER. They always wimp out and run away, "go insane," or kill themselves. And those who somehow survive training and the countless blanket parties and beatings from guys like me, end up like that fucking Sgt. who threw a grenade in his commander's tent - killing people.


Think about that one long and hard buddy.