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[RiCE]Doc.JF
July 24th, 2003, 06:37 PM
if there is such a thing... i know there's been "best of what class" threads, but if you were going to make a "hall of fame" per se of TFC, who would you throw in there as having actual impact on the way the game was played? (clan, person, whatever)

my thoughts:

KiN - TFC's first great clan, only losing 13 times or something ridiculous like that. most of those losses handed by one clan... CE

PF.Vega - God only knows how long PF has been around, it takes something that 99% of the tfc clans today don't have to lead a clan for that long. granted they had their fall out, but imo it's pretty impressive to be one of the first clans... and hopefully be one of the last. (props to |{ for this too)

CNBL-HeadHunter - maybe not in the fall of CNBL, and like it or not... his clan knew how to win, and they put out some of the best players the game's ever seen (sploosh's medic still amazes me)

|SD| - dominated the game a few years ago and stayed around as a respectful clan for quite a while.

Zt. - until they came around i had never seen such pure talent in one clan (not that i've been around for ages or anything), i'd also never seen one clan rape as many people as they did ;p

OD/XD - talk about starting a trend lol

Rent_A_Knight - stepping out on a limb for this one i think... but it seems like to me that he made a lot of people re-evaluate how they were playing medic and probably just put even more people in awe by his pure skill.

whoever created Sparky - i don't use it, but (edit) IT definately put the fun back in the game for a lot of people.



i know there's a ton more i could throw up there.. but i'm done now

Doc

Ripzone
July 24th, 2003, 06:41 PM
gj lol

[RiCE]Doc.JF
July 24th, 2003, 06:42 PM
lol. thanks.. it's amazing what you think about when you haven't played a competitve match in like 3 months :p

Doc

PowerCow5000
July 24th, 2003, 06:44 PM
MassacrE, if for nothing more than pissing more people off than anybody next to MAYBE headhunter

Unbroken
July 24th, 2003, 06:50 PM
All the league admins and server admins that keep the game running good are the legends to me.

zerosouls
July 24th, 2003, 06:58 PM
Funny how nobody mentions the people like Virus PHISH and Jigg. PHISH and Jigg are two of the best players I know and have made TDA what it is today. Jigg is a fuckin equal if not better than Rent. Skill in one clan means nothing if you dont bond. Thats all I have to say.

KnuX
July 24th, 2003, 07:52 PM
originally posted by zerosouls
Skill in one clan means nothing if you dont bond. Thats all I have to say.

Exactly.

[HCA]SonGoku
July 24th, 2003, 07:55 PM
TFC Legends to ME are the following people :

Gup20
zon
vega
gemini
azlan

These people throughout the years have gottin my attention and I consider them Legends of TFC.

azul
July 24th, 2003, 08:00 PM
CE belongs up there as well as being another of the big clans of TFC. Erinyes should definetly be up there.

MassacrE as well, he has been the center of a lot of controversy of TFC, and fooled almost all of us when he returned as Boost. I mean, he got back into BW and XD under that name. MassacrE is definetly one of the big names of TFC and belongs in the hall of fame, even if for not the best reasons.

SonGoku for providing us with public servers to have fun on, even though they have slowly dwindled down to nothing with the hoard of 100 mindless hypocritical admins and noobs and asshats that flock the phat farms, but you must admit they were lots of fun at one point.

Kastro, Lich, maizy and the rest of the catacombs crew for obvious reasons. I don't think I can imagine this community being what it is today if not for this forum and website (which im looking forward to having put back up soon ;) )


DrLove for the late (!). Nobody but him could have kept a clan alive that long at that level of competition through all the hardships they faced. And hes a great guy as well, definetly deserves probs.

Ruiner/Billdoor - ROASTEH JAWN

thats all i can think of right now

MadEagle
July 24th, 2003, 08:15 PM
tfl still finds ways to amaze me

kidmO
July 24th, 2003, 08:25 PM
Wouldn't MassacrE be more like the Pete Rose of the TFC Hall of Fame?

Jerkasaurus
July 24th, 2003, 08:30 PM
Wouldn't MassacrE be more like the Pete Rose of the TFC Hall of Fame?

Yes but this is legends not hall of fame there arnt rules to that you can break that wouldnt allow you to get into some informal legend list ;P.

[ELB]Azrael-
July 24th, 2003, 08:31 PM
memememememememe

greg-
July 24th, 2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by kidmO
Wouldn't MassacrE be more like the Pete Rose of the TFC Hall of Fame?
thats a good way of putting it :)

yoinK!
July 24th, 2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by kidmO
Wouldn't MassacrE be more like the Pete Rose of the TFC Hall of Fame?

lol i was about to post that and saw ur post as i was scrolling down.... bitch :-P


edit:

i would put Gunslinger, Vindicate/weak, and the 404 guys on there too.

Kaneda
July 24th, 2003, 10:11 PM
How do some of you come to the conclusion that person X was the best at class Y during a certain period of time?

July 24th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by [RiCE]Doc.JF
whoever created Sparky - i don't use it, but (edit) IT definately put the fun back in the game for a lot of people.


the door of bill

Vector2k3
July 24th, 2003, 10:45 PM
BSU - Maybe the guild's been through ups and downs, but it still would be considered a "legend" to tfc in my opinion.

Breaker
July 24th, 2003, 10:53 PM
wellz...... Atty should definitely be on there, as well as massacre. i'd put [ADSL]Malevolent Rage and [ECM]Witchy on there too just because i know they died, and they deserve more recognition i guess. and whoever invented gatorade too, its the best when u have cottonmouth during a match

Famine-
July 24th, 2003, 11:01 PM
Id have to say 404 and Wingnut. Others mentioned qualify as well.

Dion and Kab owned TFC Defenses for a good stretch. There game as well as Rents have been watched and copied.

ALso Mulchman. He has a fucking term. Lets go mulch. LOL. <3 ronied.

Sponge
July 24th, 2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by kidmO
Wouldn't MassacrE be more like the Pete Rose of the TFC Hall of Fame?

No, not at all. Pete Rose isn't allowed in the Hall because he bet on baseball, not because he cheated while playing it.

-Wolvy-pb
July 24th, 2003, 11:24 PM
billdoor catching 19 cheaters in 1 night

Crap
July 25th, 2003, 12:09 AM
jacar, innerfury, koron and whoever is responsible for keeping Dark Omen alive.

Wonka
July 25th, 2003, 12:09 AM
Paul_Bunyan

fiend
July 25th, 2003, 12:12 AM
paul fucking _bunyan

July 25th, 2003, 12:21 AM
Paul_Bunyan

zerosouls
July 25th, 2003, 12:25 AM
You can sure tell the majority of the old schoolers are gone from the community when its just 'talks' of KiN and CE. The real legends? People like Maj.GHOB, Gup20, Kingfish, SA, Yakuzax. Those are my legends.

-Wolvy-pb
July 25th, 2003, 12:31 AM
lol ya PB was a legend. thats an understatement

[RiCE]Doc.JF
July 25th, 2003, 12:39 AM
that's very true about bonding, zerosouls... the only thing with that is, as an outsider, i really can't see how well people/teams have bonded. you can get some idea based on how often people are leaving and how well the team consistantly plays, but other than that i have no clue how good person A's relationship is with person B and so on. anyhow..

i didn't think to mention catacombs, thanks for giving us a place to talk :P

and ditto to the server admins who give us a place to play.

i would also have to say custom-tfc... not that customizing tfc wouldn't be possible without them, but they've at least provided a warehouse of different things you can use to change the game... whether it be hacks or not, changing around my crosshairs and weapon models has at least made my personal gaming a lot more fun. :)

edit: i do remember ghob and gup20, but sadly i was a 2-week newb when they were in their prime, so i've really only heard about them :/ i would definately include them simply because, from what i understand, they really made mastering the hw something to accomplish... more than just holding down +attack.
Doc

kulite
July 25th, 2003, 03:55 AM
Klutch. His cheese script has touched many and inspired the best to keep going.

DIV|ace`
July 25th, 2003, 03:56 AM
kulite. because it's that obvious. pork chop sandwiches! oh shit get the fuck out of here

July 25th, 2003, 04:01 AM
KoD Blue The Best Offensive Soldier of All time

-Wolvy-pb
July 25th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Don't kill me for asking, but who was paul_bunyan?

jesus christ these threads have been around forever. tired of telling the tale :(

Wonka
July 25th, 2003, 05:18 AM
Paul Bunyan was probabaly the most dominant all-around player to ever grace defense, Looie.

July 25th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Paul_Bunyan - Self Explanatory
Vega and PHISH/Jigg/Virus - Running clans for so long :o
Bigrichard - Catacombs village idiot

RA|shock
July 25th, 2003, 09:18 AM
COBRAS

Defrag
July 25th, 2003, 09:48 AM
Not to flame but I doubt you could class PB as an all round defence player when robo could beat him up as soldier v soldier...

Walking Revolution
July 25th, 2003, 10:03 AM
I invented TFC.

Wonka
July 25th, 2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Defrag
Not to flame but I doubt you could class PB as an all round defence player when robo could beat him up as soldier v soldier...

Yeah, he wasn't the BEST soldier, but he was okay at it. He was pure domination at sniper and HW though.

Suicidal Anomaly
July 25th, 2003, 12:00 PM
The clans that dominated at one point or another: CE, KiN, SD, PF, Zt, and now V
The clans and their leaders that have been around for a long time: 404, PF, DO, TDA, etc
People who ran/maintained the more popular TFC sites: Tubaboy, Kastro, Lich, Xris, etc
As far as other TFC legends, those who dominated their position or were just good guys who helped others out and didn't ask for anything in return, the people who didn't let their e-ego's get too big. Props to the people who didn't whore themselves out on a weekly basis or jump at the chance to join the next clan of all stars that formed on a weekly basis.
Mentioning Massacre as a TFC legend is almost as much of a joke as he was.

horriBLEH
July 25th, 2003, 01:35 PM
Kingfish

Halcyon
July 25th, 2003, 01:43 PM
no one will ever get me to belive paul was legit

blammo and dion get my votes

|RES|Entreri
July 25th, 2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Halcyon
no one will ever get me to belive paul was legit


Why? Because he owned so completely?

As his clan leader, I did everything I could (short of driving to Salt Lake City and physically watching him play) to make sure he was legit. Paul was as legit as they come.

You know the saying "No matter how good you are, there is someone better"? Well, that someone was Paul.

shotback
July 25th, 2003, 02:22 PM
I remember way back when I went up against Paul_Bunyan in some clan on mulch_trench. GFG game over. He could snipe, he could play hwguy, and either way, you weren't getting by much. =(

Halcyon
July 25th, 2003, 02:26 PM
it was just something inexcusable a long time ago and it happen to me in a pickup with no demo so no one else knew what i was talkin about =(

Gup20
July 25th, 2003, 02:52 PM
Dion and Kablammo for offense - no one else that I ever saw came close. I played defense against just about every offensive legend listed here... let me tell you... practice each week against those two was a lot more difficult than playing any other offensive players in TFC. It's like night and day.

Maj GHOB definately changed the way we used to look at HW. Later OBR and Goku.

Love them or hate them... Massacre and Headhunter for their controversial nature - the soap opera of TFC was born. IMHO, that soap opera was the only reason TFC has lasted as long as it has. We needed to visit the forums each day to gossip and flame.

InnerFury
July 25th, 2003, 03:06 PM
legends, well i dont know i was in tfc since start and legend is a story handed down so i will say role models.

defensive
dread pirate roberts
cyric
koron
gup20
brick
trigger
walking revolution
dospac
sanitzer for leadin a great defense even though with hacks
hellfire
paingod
DOOM
OB
Vega
toast
paulbunyan
massacre
ghob
SA

offense
nex
rent
fuzion
massacre
edz
refinersfire
blink
hummer
slider
innoko
dion
kablammo
jack daniels

leaders
vega
zon
azlan
sanitzer
drlove
solo
phish
anyone else playing over 200 matches

community
azlan
goku
ruiner
xris
gunslinger

even though it doesnt matter just everyones opinion

Suicidal Anomaly
July 25th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Hatte
Its almost funny how little respect bM gets from you fuckers, If your going to congrat clans and leaders you always seem to forget the clan that has been around the longest, bM has been playing for FUCKING FOREVER (http://www.konspiracy.org/kse/listclans.php?search=&div=tfc&active=1&order=fa) and our faithful and consistantly drunk leader, jabberwocky, should get some credit. Credit for putting up with idiots from within(taco_joe), and idiots without(all you fuckers that can't handle playing in africa), and most of all, unlike so many of the 2 week clan leaders of today, having the ability to take a loss and keep going. For that, jabs is a legend.

Do you know what 'etc' stands for?

TDA EvilDead
July 25th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Most of the time...People don't name themselves or their clans as legends, but go ahead keep patting yourself on the back! :p

WingNut
July 25th, 2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by [DO]-InnerFury.t5-VD
legends, well i dont know i was in tfc since start and legend is a story handed down so i will say role models.

...jack daniels


Glad someone remembers JD. It's been a while...

Dospac
July 27th, 2003, 03:18 AM
PB was shady.

His name belongs here for pure aim maybe. He didn't get much past the pub sniper/hw play style.

sOuLjAhX
July 27th, 2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by shotback
I remember way back when I went up against Paul_Bunyan in some clan on mulch_trench. GFG game over. He could snipe, he could play hwguy, and either way, you weren't getting by much. =(


i know who he is he changed his name ip and everything kekeke promised i wouldnt tell tho shit son he still fucking ownz :D and hes in my dustbowl clan lolz

k2 summit
July 27th, 2003, 03:29 AM
kiwwa is a legend in all of hl (every anti-cheating thingy was a protege of pb) oh and drfeelgood.

-Wolvy-pb
July 27th, 2003, 03:36 AM
Paul Bunyan was probabaly the most dominant all-around player to ever grace defense, Looie.

I wouldnt go that far wonks. He was the most dominant hw/clan sniper of his time. His demo/sol/clangclang were just average. He was interested in bhop when he saw it, so he learned it in less than a week, very admirable as well. www.myn0ck.com/pb

0 Year 42 Weeks 3 Days 8 Hours 16 Minutes and less than 21 Seconds to go

Until Snake and GraFFix get owned by PB once again...

HooK
July 27th, 2003, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Lich
The true legends will not be posted because most of you noobs have no clue who really started the TFC scene. Carry on...

Go ahead and enlighten us then.

axe
July 27th, 2003, 07:43 AM
Was Maj.GHOB mentioned yet?

July 27th, 2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by sOuLjAhX
i know who he is he changed his name ip and everything kekeke promised i wouldnt tell tho shit son he still fucking ownz :D and hes in my dustbowl clan lolz

Yeah... I guess he must also have a BNC and HTTP proxy in Venezuela, right? :rolleyes:

greenbeard
July 27th, 2003, 10:18 AM
nothing is more memorable to me than gassing robo in WoB praccy

DR. DOOM
July 27th, 2003, 10:47 AM
These things are just popularity contests and people spewing out names they have heard others say over and over. Or you get the other end of the spectrum of people naming clanmates and even themselves as legends.

yoinK!
July 27th, 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by sOuLjAhX
i know who he is he changed his name ip and everything kekeke promised i wouldnt tell tho shit son he still fucking ownz :D and hes in my dustbowl clan lolz


bullshit...... gg impersonators

kevin
July 27th, 2003, 12:24 PM
kiwwi (created pb)
paul bunyan (I always thought he cheated because he owned so hard at sniper)
cyric (he was such a chill guy and never let anything get to him)
headhunter (for making the game have some drama)

yeah, I can't remember that much because it was so long ago, but this is good enough for now.

clans that I was in : [Hfhas] to |GP| to |FEAR| to [U-235] to [DO] to |FEAR| to $s

I must of had the most fun in the first FEAR because I was learning a lot of new things and it was just all fun. Now, I just browse the forum and see how angry people can get over a game (cesspool).

retired is where it's at, ya!

Cobalt
July 27th, 2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by strizzle
my list is full of people none of you have ever heard of (like [BD]McBuff...who still to this day was the greatest tfc player who ever played....he raped everyone at every single class, but got sucked away to CS several years ago), except zon. i've always liked his style.
too bad he doesn't post on our forums anymore, otherwise i'd copy paste this for him ;E;E;E

TheMOB
July 27th, 2003, 12:45 PM
[SHS]Uncle_BRUCE

porkchop
July 27th, 2003, 01:03 PM
hmmm...


[SOL]Maerlyn, Dr Ebola, Joey2Hotty, seven of nine

[TNP]Stealth

The above mentioned people for teaching me how to play the game, whether they knew it or not, I learned quite a bit just by playing with them.


Both clans for running the most kickass FF servers back when I was a noob. Props to JS too.

|{ zon for being the best admin...EVER.

OBR as the best HWguy I've played against(fuck off goku).

Gemini for creating the TFL.

Billdoor just because.

Ruiner for Konspiracy among other things

Lich, Kastro, and Leet

LiTNiN for being the best clanleader of all time.

Deathangel/Lucky8 Most underrated player of all time.

TiTz, NAR, and 30+ for sticking around for so long with lousy records.




This is my list, and if you dont like it, go sit on a cucumber.

Syntex
July 27th, 2003, 01:12 PM
bM needs more credit - word to jabber and klepto and reload and anyone else for KEEPIn it alive

[TDA]Phaser
July 27th, 2003, 01:17 PM
404/KiN Snare - can't believe no one mentioned this guy. He was pure domination at both offense and defense. Probably the first REAL offensive soldier that was a machine and consistant at raping defenses. Also an excellent demoman with and without the detscript.

KaBlammo - in his prime, probably the best medic/soldier combo there was. I played with kab alot back in the day, and his skill progressed so fast it was scary. I know alot of people don't like him, but me and him were always cool (we were pre patch dm whores), and you can't deny how good he was.

Dion - in his prime, the best utility player there was. He could play any class and play it top notch. I remember when ELB first played CNBL on well... first rush..this guy was in our fr before our defense, pulled the flag out, and capped before our d was even done setting up. We were like wtf!

[ELB]DeadlyEngineer - the most overlooked player in this game..still. An unbelievably talented leader, and truly loves the game. People do not give him the credit he deserves. He has kept ELB running through the ups and downs regardless what the circumstances. He is still in my opinion the best engineer in the game...as well as an excellent soldier.

Zslick - known this guy for a long ass time. Still in my opinion the best overall demoman to play the game. He was way ahead of everyone in skill level in the way he played demo. An extremely smart player, with unbelievable pipe control. Always willing to help anyone, and one of the nicest guys i've met through TFC.

DeadManWalking
July 27th, 2003, 01:25 PM
Peter lul you guys forgot...:rolleyes:

K-Mart Warrior
July 27th, 2003, 05:17 PM
DaGuill0tine[WU]

One of the best medics I ever saw, taught me bhop, even though when I first started learning I could only go backwards... Taught me conc aim, (with help from Rikku..a lot of help from Rikku)

He might not be a legend to anyone here, but to me, he's the only person I could ever look up to as far as online players go.

Plus he had the funniest voice I've ever heard. Chef!

July 27th, 2003, 05:17 PM
|404|strykuur!!!!

Thoth
July 27th, 2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by [TDA]Phaser


Zslick - known this guy for a long ass time. Still in my opinion the best overall demoman to play the game. He was way ahead of everyone in skill level in the way he played demo. An extremely smart player, with unbelievable pipe control. Always willing to help anyone, and one of the nicest guys i've met through TFC.


Seph and Thulsa basically taught me to play soldier, though indirectly, and want to get better.

Virus, PHISH, Jigg, (and Deathmark in the early days) for keeping TDA running, and all having an abundance of skill (except Virus :p)

[TDA]Aerodactyl - still one of the best spies I've ever seen, if he still played he's be a monster.

Entreri, Graffix, slaws, and Snakebite for sticking it out with RES and being cool people in general.

Those people are legends to me, at least.

(yes I named people from my former/current clan, fuck you)

yoinK!
July 27th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by porkchop
Dr Ebola



roiflroflorlfrolforlforfoorforofo docster is gay!

July 27th, 2003, 05:41 PM
UncleBRUCE - he was and still he my favorite soldier. he is a true tfc legend.

Wavelength
July 27th, 2003, 06:31 PM
he might not have been "old school" but watchin his avi's helped me out hella lot...
UncleBRUCE

[TDA]Phaser
July 27th, 2003, 08:17 PM
<3 thoth....midnight dm sessions were so much fun back then!

polarity
July 27th, 2003, 08:43 PM
Maj.GHOB and Paul_Bunyan are two of my personal legends. MassacrE, Ruiner, billdoor, Lich, Kastro, CE, KiN, Zt, blah blah blah.. you get the idea.

AGT-King
July 27th, 2003, 08:59 PM
I'd like to add Shady and Jedi for being able to keep AGT going for so long. AGT is unlike any other clan out there, past and current members will agree with me. Not many people can keep a clan running after so many members have come and gone, lost like 150+ matches, and whatever else you can throw at a clan.

Resolute
July 27th, 2003, 10:54 PM
i like to consider myself a legend.

Naufragus
July 27th, 2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by xDynastyx
anyone have any demos of paul_bunyan sniping??? links pls..

Seriously!

Machine
July 28th, 2003, 12:12 AM
damm reading this forum again really makes me long for my golden days at tfc in zt. i sure do miss all those late nights fucking around in the internet ether with some of the most talented kids in america. i really should get a tfc tatoo. it was such a big part of my life for 3 years.

anyway, my 2cents for legends are as follows (no particular order)

striker-kin
concrete-kin
goku-kin
snare-kin
mainframe-ce
amp/knife-ce
cyric-pf
vega-pf
shux-][
suicidal anomaly-aod/][
gup20-er,whichever clan he was in
hero-aod/][
maj. ghob-wolf
hummer-wolf/zt (my personal favorite all around nice guy/skilled/leaderish type in the game)
toast-tmp (omg sickness)
blink-ao (omg more sickness)
rent-a-knight-zt
reen-zt
sploosh-cnbl/zt
dospac-404
defrag-404
rdales-kin/zt
brick-er, his clan with breadfan
dion-cnbl/whichever
macros!!!-shit i almost forgot about him-zt (one of the most consistantly great soldiers ive ever seen)
ob-pf (mah NIGGA! best rj ever..incredible soldier)
hisj-null/404 (i think this is the one im thinking of)
massacre-zt/e (we became good buddies in the end and he really was one of the greats)
xris-sd
wonka-most of them at one time or another(lol
leet-kollektiv


man i know im forgetting alot i really think are legends, i just cant remember. thats what happens when you get old kids.

Famine-
July 28th, 2003, 12:44 AM
Hey Machine.

Yeah Wingnut JD owned.

zack
July 28th, 2003, 12:45 AM
Zslick.
And I agree, post some demos of PB sniping!

wads
July 28th, 2003, 12:46 AM
i have a demo of paul sniping on sd2.. roflz gg 100+ kills

pm me and ill dcc

[FOoM]MadHornet
July 28th, 2003, 12:56 AM
well im gonna mention my own clan but eh wtf

id mention FOoM as a legend because well first off weve been around for fucking ever

the FOoM logalyzer i believe is pretty much used by every clan in the community

the old FOoM 1 server etc blah blah blah

[FOoM]MadHornet
July 28th, 2003, 12:56 AM
err im a moron and hit quote instead of edit

July 28th, 2003, 01:33 AM
PB was shady.

so are you and almost every other above average player whats your point?

KaBlammo
July 28th, 2003, 02:03 AM
im flattered i was mentioned.

tfc legend im amazed no one mentioned .... [FOoM]johnbegone

remember that fucking flash? haw! i wonder if it is still up

hmm as far as straight skill goes, ill vote for Deicide DrTrubble and Dospac, the three soldiers who i felt were always a step above my skill.

and i know its lame or whatever but dion is the best scout ive ever seen, that includes lame ass euro demos. oh yeah and gup because when he played people feared him. i bet he averaged something like 80 kills a round when he played.

BoyG
July 28th, 2003, 02:34 AM
I would say any league admin. Having to put up with all the nonsense players spew on a daily basis is just plain abuse. Players don't realize that it's a privilage to be playing in a league no matter if they agree with the rules or not.

Most if not all clan leaders. It takes a lot of time to run a clan. These people usually have school/jobs and then on top of that they spend hour after hour with their players.

Fan and news site maintainers. I'm not talking about ones that die after a week. I always forget the first stock exchange, but that one and SDSE and KSE along with The Catacombs, demogarage and many other sites that host files and provide daily entertainment and information.

As for players I've always been a huge fan of Dion and Kablammo. They were simply two of the best overall players I've had the privilage to play with. They could play either offense or defense (or for those of you who like the swing player they could do both at the same time hehe) and be a dominant player. I would put Gup20, but his constant breathing in the microphone removes him from this catagory. . . that and a certain zebra striped thong thing. . .

Last of all I say that I am a legend simply because I purchased the game and have played it since it came out. . . in reverse order. . .

July 28th, 2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by faggot
botch^Ni




HughJ, one of my catacombs heros. ;O

brett
July 28th, 2003, 04:24 AM
clans that I was in : [Hfhas] to |GP| to |FEAR| to [U-235] to [DO] to |FEAR| to $s

fuck you kevlets, wheres the fucking xSm :: love? :p

|tmp|Fog
July 28th, 2003, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Machine
damm reading this forum again really makes me long for my golden days at tfc in zt. i sure do miss all those late nights fucking around in the internet ether with some of the most talented kids in america. i really should get a tfc tatoo. it was such a big part of my life for 3 years.

anyway, my 2cents for legends are as follows (no particular order)

...
toast-tmp (omg sickness)
...


man i know im forgetting alot i really think are legends, i just cant remember. thats what happens when you get old kids.

que?

aqs
July 28th, 2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by arod
Paul_Bunyan

COUGH ..COUGH .COUGH!

Kool_Guy_RyanN
July 28th, 2003, 11:19 AM
Thats a diff kev, brett. he isnt one from xsm.

yoinK!
July 28th, 2003, 12:32 PM
another guy who absolutely rapes soldier but never gets any credit.... Defiler`DD

Milosenpotion
July 28th, 2003, 02:23 PM
Some not mentioned:

Ghengis
Quarternion
Afx
LordDW
Undz
Battery
ooppee
shark! :P
refiner's fire
ryu
Necro
M

suabocowa
July 28th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Gabe Newell and the TF team

Clans
CE/KiN
SD
PF
Zt
V


People - news/info sites
TubaBoy (TFTribune)
Kastro/Lich (Cats)
Xris/Blashy (Top 10/SDSE)
Ruiner

Admins
Maj.GHOB/zon
Tresmer
Gunslinger
Gemini
Azlan

Notables
DeFrag
MassacrE
Headhunter
Hummer

Most importantly, the people who are behind the few clans that have been around for 4+ years.
Vega of PF
Fornaught for FOoM
zon/veregon for |{
There are others I know, but these three stick out the most for me

Lei`
July 28th, 2003, 10:04 PM
Clans :
-SIN- ( no one has mentioned them yet, theve been around forever... )
DO
bM
KiN
CNBL
Jell-()
Zt.
-|D|- ( always looked up to them )

Players/Community


Lich ( forums )
Kingfish
Headhunter
MassacrE
Rent
Billdoor ( catching all those people )

yoinK!
July 29th, 2003, 12:36 AM
rofl no one mentioned oracle... the self proclaimed tfc legend :-P

Fivestar
July 29th, 2003, 12:44 AM
Unabomber. Nuff said.

DragoN1
July 29th, 2003, 12:46 AM
what PHASER said about DE from ELB ...a great leader and player even know i was in elb and never saw him play ng or solly hes a great hw

Tetra
July 29th, 2003, 01:20 AM
the only person that i really thought knew what he/she was doing, was Spazz. Even though he had a tuff history, he still was the greatest.

[TDA]Phaser
July 29th, 2003, 01:29 AM
Hey kab! Didn't know you still browsed the forums. Stop by irc sometime and say hi if you get a chance.

WingNut
July 29th, 2003, 01:33 AM
He's on IRC quite a bit :)

AGT-Shady
July 29th, 2003, 01:42 PM
Thx King :)

Running AGT and trying to keep leagues clean for 2+ years is more work than I'll admit.

But anyway, along those lines, guys like zon and Azlan, ran their clans and leagues for a long time, it takes a shitload of work most people would choose not to deal with.

gj to them

Stiffler_
July 29th, 2003, 02:06 PM
Boomslang, formerly of `DD
[DO]
[CoS]
and Zt.

KingForADay
July 29th, 2003, 07:27 PM
i understand that many of you americans arent fully aware of euro tfc, but i am actually surprised that Undz and UncleBRUCE wereonly mentioned one or two times..

$Lip_
July 29th, 2003, 10:40 PM
from a personal standpoint i pick boomslang and cerberus

Pohl
July 30th, 2003, 01:33 AM
Legends might be a bit strong to describe anyone in TFC. Influential might be a bit closer to reality.

For me it has to be U-238. When I found TFC in '99 they had the only servers that would ping less than 300 for most of us on the west coast (almost all of us were on dialup at the time).

The skill level was from fantastic to newbie...but all of the Uranium guys were willing to take time to talk to the newbs (me) with respect, they showed us how to do those amazing things (rocket jumping, conc jumping, setting dets)...fun times.

For me those were the glory days. I still see many of the other newbs I used to pub with. Today many of them are in top clans and most of them are still the friendly and considerate gamers I met so many years ago.

I don't know how many clans formed out of those Utah servers...too many to count. Some of them still exist today. The day U-238 died was actually a sad day...the only consolation being that many of them joined the cool guys at FooM.

July 30th, 2003, 04:30 AM
These things are just popularity contests and people spewing out names they have heard others say over and over

agreed, when guys like forever who i've heard of starting 3 weeks ago say :

Just a ton more clans that made the game fun like THD, AOD, cW, CdG, DWD, WOLF, AR, HATE, CA, SiGiL, cDD, and other clans mentioned I dont think needs mentioning 20 times over.

right.

I'm consistently adding to this thread while I read, and holy shit machine where have you been ~ get on IRC this weekend while a lot of us are at CPL !

macros!!!-shit i almost forgot about him-zt

and ][, and then i brought you to pf. zt was my inactive clan :D you are still one of my favorite alltime players of about like 3.

fuck you kevlets, wheres the fucking xSm :: love

that's not kevlets, that's mS|****** who is also named kevin.

i understand that many of you americans arent fully aware of euro tfc

it's not that we're not aware, it's just that most of us really don't care about them.

and to the guy who said cyric was chill, you're weird lol.

and finally, for my legends, when i started in cM in 99 the only guy i was like ;o to was Knife-[CE], i chased him around on pubs and if i killed him i was really proud of myself and all.

adroit
July 30th, 2003, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by |RES|Entreri
You know the saying "No matter how good you are, there is someone better"? Well, that someone was Paul. so whos better than paul?


and lol rpm i know what your talking about.

aside from that, id say:
drlove
necro
reen/rent
gunslinger
gup20
maj ghob
kablammo
massacre
paul bunyan

Juggernaut
July 30th, 2003, 05:02 AM
Useful post goes here http://www.clandim.com/RA/emot-ninja.gif

bewm
July 30th, 2003, 07:56 PM
People:
Ob, macros, Neuro, RDales, concrete\anti-sentry, Mr_Bubbles, d3mp, zon, $Lip, Stiffler, Verse, Defiler, DrT, Deicide, syntex, & Gunslinger.

Clans: |{, DWD, 100kdl, CE, NULL, ZB, Zt, & FOoM

[TDA]Phaser
July 31st, 2003, 01:51 PM
One more before i forget:

Sceptro: Had the benefit of playing with him from '99 till the beginning of '02. We were in the old ELB then -RR- togther. Basically everything i learned was from emulating his style. He literally won us matches by himself. An offensive machine that could rape as any O class. Unfortunately we lost him to the great tfc killer (damn you daoc!). Still in my opinion the best overall offensive player there ever was.

ZeusofIowa
July 31st, 2003, 03:15 PM
I remember playing PB on enclave. Prior to the match [eXeL]Polybius said "No sniper can be that good" because we talked him up pretty high. To say Poly was humbled at the end of the match would be an understatement.

Zslick
August 30th, 2003, 12:23 AM
Ice9 - IMO he made gamecasting fun in the tfc world, when he left no others compared :(

Leviathan
August 30th, 2003, 02:15 AM
Well we are not legends but like all those that have posted saying "have been around for ever" I have to mention my own clan Elemental Dragons since we never get thought of becuase of our record or level of play.


Second I would like to say that all those leaders and Admin that do all they can to keep things running are legends.

bona
August 30th, 2003, 02:36 AM
Best Player standouts: ELB PoPs and Boomslang`DD The oldest and youngest people to play TFC :) jk, there is probably someone younger than boomslang, but he sure sounded like the little girl who stepped in a big pool of ice water

Admins: Tone, Tone, and Tone

Clan Standouts: SD, Zt, CNBL, 404, K, and PF

Shittiest Map Selections: Bam and SMOOTH

Legendary TFC Players: Gup20 - being the best in his class may have been questionable, but the told work ethic in and of itself is something of note.

Legendary TFC Moments: 1.5 Patch - "All TFC people yell FUCK at the same moment across the world)

That is just my 2 cents. Well, it is more like 25 cents.

WingNut
August 30th, 2003, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by bona

Legendary TFC Moments: 1.5 Patch - "All TFC people yell FUCK at the same moment across the world)

Agreed!

GzA
August 30th, 2003, 03:14 AM
Paul_Bunyan

EagleTalon from [JEC] was just as good as him if not better back in the day(sniping wise) before he retired, anyone who's really been around this game knows what he's done.

I'm not really a fan of naming legends because it's biased, but [JEC] has been around longer then almost any clan today and is still going to this day as a TFC(on top of other games) community. Not only has it produced some of TFC's best soldiers, medics, etc, but it's still alive through a lot of this games history. I gotta give a shout out to them. For those of you who dont know about it, then I guess you are misguided in your TFC history.

I gotta also give bona props about 1.5 becuause still to this day I say "FUCK" about 1.5. :)

Anguish
August 30th, 2003, 01:01 PM
Ragefest(dont know why anyone didnt mention him), Undz!!,UB,Overkill(new legend),zon,Vega,Veregon,Rdales,Brick,Fear,Leet(am azing med),Snare,No Mercy(semi-new),Rimuladus(spelling),Spazz,Dragonslayer. Future stars : Qu(best O soldier ever in TFC),Stickgod,Freakle,Influx,Reen,Nar,Mick,Hades(b est demo i've ever played agaisnt)

CaptRon01
August 30th, 2003, 03:51 PM
captain ron

xipo
August 30th, 2003, 05:12 PM
tfc legend i have to say Capone a very nice guy with alot of talent.. i rememebr when i was in ( N ) he would go out of his way to help us out.. all the time... he was one of the best players both playing in euro and american leagues.... was known for not whoring nades.. just a great player and a good person

ReEn
August 30th, 2003, 06:02 PM
Captain Ronald of home depot

T-Bone
August 30th, 2003, 06:24 PM
[TTK]Schizo, nuff said