are you crazy if...

[eon]

if you have disturbing thoughts(like vivid thoughts[perhaps they could qualify as fantasies]) about things?

I don't know, like if somebody thought about shooting kids at their school(swear to god, i haven't thought of it, but only decent example i can think of atm)

Would that qualify you as crazy? Or is thinking on things like that ok as long as you dont feel impulses or urges to go out and act on those thoughts?

And would thinking these thoughts long enough eventually lead a person to having urges to do them?

I'm afraid I've pretty thoroughly mangled this but i've had like 4 hours of sleep the past week and I'm just a little tired and not thinking straight.

[ReEn]

there is a proper title for those kinda thoughts. its normal

[el-inerto_]

Everyone has those thoughts sooner or later, but as long as there's no motive or action, I can't see how it's harmful.

I've frequently thought of myself as Superman and every once in awhile I try to jump and see if I fly (ok so I'm not under that normal category). My legs will obey sooner or later, damn it.

[VP-]

Its normal untill you start acting out your thoughts. Wich is why I refuse to touch and kind of drug and only alchohol in small amounts... or id end up being the next Fisch or Rodriguez.. if you dont know them then google lol

but yes its perfectly normal

[snaggle]

I was going to carry a gun to school and shoot the people who had been making fun of me for the better part of a year in 6th grade...I would've been a trendsetter at the time. (1992)

But I didn't, because I knew that killing jerks would prove nothing...so I bested them in music...every time they made fun of me...I auditioned for a solo and got it...I got lead parts in musicals and became section leader in band...they got so fed up with me they quit...making my life much easier...not as much fun as a shooting spree perhaps...but safer.

[MindFlare]

Someone stop me if I'm wrong, but I THINK some institution has proven that primal fantasies such as killing, etc. can actually be healthy.

By fantasizing, you're relieving yourself of the urges to follow through with them. By following through in your imagination, you've quenched those urges. Holding them in long enough can result in some damage though...just like holding in angst or anger is.

Alto of people have fantasies about having power of people, or being in high up positions, being kings, being in control because they don't have that feeling in life. (Which isn't bad really).

I've though ALOT about completely maiming people at my old school. Every time I did, I reenacted how they would die and their pleads. This made me feel in control of a valuable asset (life) and the drunk feeling of power. Afterwords, I would be settle and feel better.

There's nothing shamefully about fantasizing about killing someone. As long as you have no REAL intention of doing so. If you're really contemplating going through with it, then you need to look for other venting outlets or maybe even mental help.

[who]

how cute, a future sex offender coming of age. *Tear

[hello]

Those thoughts are considered "unhealthy" by many people, but actually unavoidable. Psyhological research states that daydreams or fantasies are healthy.

[BluRRPy]

eon: what are you thinking about? what are the thoughts related to?

Be as general as you want, i.e. sexual/homicidal/just weird.

Originally posted by snaggle
I was going to carry a gun to school and shoot the people who had been making fun of me for the better part of a year in 6th grade...I would've been a trendsetter at the time. (1992)

But I didn't, because I knew that killing jerks would prove nothing...so I bested them in music...every time they made fun of me...I auditioned for a solo and got it...I got lead parts in musicals and became section leader in band...they got so fed up with me they quit...making my life much easier...not as much fun as a shooting spree perhaps...but safer.
So you decided to not shoot them, but get back at them by joining the drama club? And how exactly did they get fed up with you becoming section leader in the band? Wouldn't that provoke more frequent and severe beatings?

[Acharne]

I dunno... I do that... But I doubt my own sanity sooooooooo....

[snaggle]

Originally posted by BluRRPy
eon: what are you thinking about? what are the thoughts related to?

Be as general as you want, i.e. sexual/homicidal/just weird.


So you decided to not shoot them, but get back at them by joining the drama club? And how exactly did they get fed up with you becoming section leader in the band? Wouldn't that provoke more frequent and severe beatings?

I think my ignoring them and besting them at what they considered themselves as "the best" at put them off enough to ignore me. It was that or the fact that I grew a foot taller, put on 50 pounds of mostly muscle...and could've beaten the crap out of them given the chance...

[Willy Wonka]

From what I read, most of the kids involved in school shootings have been victimized by bullies.

Perhaps they feel forced into their actions by the bullies themselves, uncaring school admins and teachers, parents etc.

Are they crazy? Made crazy? Were they born this way? I don't know. I was never picked or a bully it is hard for me to relate to those issues.

Fantasizing about making the bullies go away doesn't make them go away and if you are physically unable to beat them up you take it to the next level. I know some kids start ditching school to deal with it.

[snaggle]

Originally posted by Willy Wonka
From what I read, most of the kids involved in school shootings have been victimized by bullies.

Perhaps they feel forced into their actions by the bullies themselves, uncaring school admins and teachers, parents etc.

Are they crazy? Made crazy? Were they born this way? I don't know. I was never picked or a bully it is hard for me to relate to those issues.

Fantasizing about making the bullies go away doesn't make them go away and if you are physically unable to beat them up you take it to the next level. I know some kids start ditching school to deal with it.

I'd have to go with made crazy. Emotional abuse from peers can be devastating if compounded by dozens of people on a daily basis for any extended length of time. I was a shy guy...and that was exploited by people. I was also smaller than many of my peers at the time...which made me an easy target I suppose. Looking back, it wasn't anything worth going on a gun toting killing spree for...but at the time it was more than any 12 year old should have to take. Eventually I learned that ignoring them was more effective than reacting...but while they had control...it was the most unbearable year of my life. The funny part is, a few years later, many of my tormentors were coming to me for homework help...go figure.

[who]

I don't know why losers get all worked up about bullying anyways. Just laugh and realise in 10 years they will be at least changing your oil or at most dead/in jail/OD'ed. This only applies if your bullies are poorer than you. If they are rich it's open season man. FIRE AWAY!!

[Acharne]

^^^^^
Lol. I liked the part about "if they are rich, FIRE AWAY!".
I wasn't ever really bullied, noone really liked me or stuff I geuss. I've always been big enough to fend for myself though, so I never caught much shit, just the occassional insult which I took in stride. I've never gotten into a fight... I'm really pacifistic despite how I look / the music I listen to / what people think of me. Just recently I've learned I should just do my own thing and not give a fuck about what people thought of it. That seems to work for me.

[Willy Wonka]

Originally posted by Acharne
^^^^^
Lol. I liked the part about "if they are rich, FIRE AWAY!".
I wasn't ever really bullied, noone really liked me or stuff I geuss. I've always been big enough to fend for myself though, so I never caught much shit, just the occassional insult which I took in stride. I've never gotten into a fight... I'm really pacifistic despite how I look / the music I listen to / what people think of me. Just recently I've learned I should just do my own thing and not give a fuck about what people thought of it. That seems to work for me.

That was funny.

There is a type of bullying done in TFC. I kind of wonder if that is why people cheat.

A medic guild leader attacked me yesterday for being in a 4A clan, which I am not, but it is sad that he felt so low that he had to attack me over my video game "skills".

One thing I told my son when he started his first job, "what makes you cool in high school is illegal in the real world."

[Ji[n]xx]

eon, maybe you need to kick someones ass:D

But yea shit like that is pretty common

[VP-]

I was born fucked up, ive always been well liked by everyone in school and a part of everything so no one made me this way. I was just born fucked up ive always enjoyed hurting people to some extent just slight pain,stabbing people w/ pen pencil and stuff like that although as I got older I grew out of it slightly and I focus hurting people more on myself when I workout I punish myself. And at wrestling practice/matches I can realize my thoughts without getting into trouble.l

[DeadPool]

do what the voices in your head tell you

[k9black`]

nothing, to me anymore, at least.