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jiggaspai
September 19th, 2003, 08:45 AM
Who do you think are the best spies of tfc?

In no paticular order

zulich
lloyd
fireY
Nam

edit

ALso do you think spy can hold is own like a medic?
Would you use a spy instead of a medic on command maps?
Do you think spies should know how ot play medic?

Ruiner
September 19th, 2003, 09:11 AM
along with those you mentionned I'd add someone but forgot his name sorry - he's/was in /tmp and name starts with g

Soulbringer
September 19th, 2003, 09:21 AM
U americans should mention some european spies for a change :) (meh! :P) my demo vs [DW] !!! (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~democenter/modules.php?name=Demos&file=demo&did=00546&mode=&order=0&thold=0)

Warren_Peace
September 19th, 2003, 09:47 AM
cory/greenbudz can be added to that list

Wheaties[TCK]
September 19th, 2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Soulbringer
U americans should mention some european spies for a change :) (meh! :P) my demo vs [DW] !!! (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~democenter/modules.php?name=Demos&file=demo&did=00546&mode=&order=0&thold=0)


Europeans rarely play any class other than soldier medic scout engy. So forgive us. I'll watch teh demo though :D

Majin-Buu
September 19th, 2003, 09:51 AM
I would have to say many of those that have worn the tag `bK or =S= these guilds were full of all powerful spies .. I include myself in my hayday under the nick [=1=]Predator `bK

Res
September 19th, 2003, 10:05 AM
[*E*]Arkayz

jiggaspai
September 19th, 2003, 11:45 AM
bump answer the q's

RebbeL
September 19th, 2003, 12:07 PM
[CwO]Zeik is pretty darn good

Tiger_Eye
September 19th, 2003, 12:13 PM
mH.Scopes ... too bad he retired ... I will never forget you Scopes <3

one8seven
September 19th, 2003, 12:18 PM
SAI

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FiReY
September 19th, 2003, 12:27 PM
fu kj :D

Stryder
September 19th, 2003, 01:14 PM
corey, gator, tron - no particular order ;DDDDDDdd

contusion
September 19th, 2003, 01:30 PM
sai.

Raven
September 19th, 2003, 01:44 PM
ziek

PHISH
September 19th, 2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Res
[*E*]Arkayz
And aerodactyl...those guys were amazing for their time hehe.

I recall when KoD accused aero of speedcheating, lol.

SenSai
September 19th, 2003, 02:36 PM
sorry, but gator is the best spy in tfc.

|tmp|Fog
September 19th, 2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Ruiner
along with those you mentionned I'd add someone but forgot his name sorry - he's/was in /tmp and name starts with g

The Devil Greenbudz says hi :D

-RyaN-
September 19th, 2003, 02:59 PM
sai is sick.

SPQR
September 19th, 2003, 03:25 PM
zeik

friday
September 19th, 2003, 03:27 PM
rage@corey from [bM]
Something like that... He had an avi out called The PlatforM. Looked pretty good in that.

Sharpsh00t3r
September 19th, 2003, 04:08 PM
I'd say anyone in #vv-

Thoth
September 19th, 2003, 05:10 PM
corey, sai, definitely arkayz, and aerodactyl back in the day..man I hated practicing against him.

J-Flame
September 19th, 2003, 06:15 PM
saisan, plus hes cool and not and doesnt have the "im leet so you all must suck" attitude

ffej-OD
September 19th, 2003, 06:19 PM
Nx ^ sai

without a doubt is the best spy in tfc. i usually dont post in these gay threads but its blatantly obvious to me his is the best after playing top spies from all over.

GohaN
September 19th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Discoani was one of the best that i had ever seen. too bad he left without saying anything.

FiReY
September 19th, 2003, 06:39 PM
stiletto fucking ownd

adroit
September 19th, 2003, 06:41 PM
DISCOANI.

Thrash
September 19th, 2003, 06:46 PM
I am sorry, but as usual in these threads, I am going to have to say that guy "Bawls" is the best spy.

Dazz-
September 19th, 2003, 06:47 PM
me*









*not me

Zehaus
September 19th, 2003, 07:10 PM
hmm..nuggs, sp, zulrich, lloyd, miyagi, mich, rones.

Sterkarm
September 19th, 2003, 08:44 PM
h2k armageddon

smartest spy. if only he had learned how to bhop. people saw this slow ass spy walking by them and were like hah must be a soldier since everyone in tit could bhop

wads
September 19th, 2003, 08:50 PM
i remember a year or two ago when i didn't know what leagues and the catacombs were this really nice guy from Nofx or something called euphoria =]

i thought had tranq hacks =X

Michman
September 19th, 2003, 09:07 PM
about four months ago id say it was sai, stonerpunk, lloyd, and zulrich.. who knows now though.

miyagi
September 19th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Michman
about four months ago id say it was sai, stonerpunk, lloyd, and zulrich.. who knows now though.
ME!!!!!

Res
September 19th, 2003, 09:56 PM
oh ya, forgot about aerodactyl.

[*E*]Arkayz --- This guy almost single handedly won us the TFL Title vs 404 on SD2 as spy.

[TDA]Aerodactyl --- Don't have any examples of him but from what I remember very good.

Nx^ Sai --- I'd like to see any other spy take down 5 RA's in one run on Scrummage as a spy.

accell
September 19th, 2003, 10:07 PM
-|RE|-Gemeni :D

Delfuso`
September 19th, 2003, 11:03 PM
sai and zul are my pick. i think they are both very good spy's and are the best knifers ive ever seen.

masseq
September 19th, 2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by SenSai
sorry, but gator is the best spy in tfc.

my vote as well. has the ability to make a good player look bad.

zerosouls
September 19th, 2003, 11:16 PM
all the idiots posting on how good a spy is just because they can knife someone, ya, they own!111

Best spy ever is LordCalvert from DIV. Fucker would get into base, get the flag and people still go wtf he come from? Thats a real spy. Not this.. OMG HE SHANKED ME COMING DOWN RAMP AHH HE'S GOOD! Since when do we measure a good medic by how easy he can kill? Anyone can dm. Can they move the flag? No? Go join the likes of people that toss nades and hide behind corners. Yes? Good, a med who CTF's, not just DM.

To summarize for the tl;dr fags

A good spy is a flag moving spy not just a knife whore.

miyagi
September 19th, 2003, 11:48 PM
good spies love internet porn too

Melt
September 19th, 2003, 11:49 PM
what kev said ^^^^

b33nz
September 20th, 2003, 12:24 AM
1.ALso do you think spy can hold is own like a medic?
2.Would you use a spy instead of a medic on command maps?
3.Do you think spies should know how ot play medic?

1.Yes he can, but 'holding his own' means doing well as a spy, not doing well as a medic.

2. Yes and no. Spy has a very good arsenal to slow down even the heaviest of defense. The tranq gun and gas grenades will definetley slow the enemy down. Then the shotgun and grenades are good for taking on any defense. And the knife is good for HW's and snipers. And finally the nailgun is for SG. But on command maps the disguise is useless, unless your planning strictly on taking out SG's and the enemy. So if you are a very good spy and mulcher, then yes spy is good on any map.

3. What do you mean with this question? (1)Do you mean should the person who plays a spy should be good with the medic class, too or (2)should the person playing a spy be as good as a medic would?
For the the (1) question I would say yes. The medic and spy are similar, they have a nailgun, shotgun, and grenades. Their speeds are both similar. And also, the health and armor are similar, too.
For questions (2) I would say no. You can't expect as much from a spy than you would from a medic. The reason I say this is the spy and medic are similar and different. The biggest difference that cripples the spy is he doesn't have any concs in his arsenal. If he would, then yes he should be able to hang with the medic.

Mercury
September 20th, 2003, 12:35 AM
sai, zulrich, cory, discoani

zerosouls
September 20th, 2003, 12:46 AM
oh and ya, half these people have never played vs the best spies either or alongside them. So unless you actually can admit that, you shouldn't be voting for who is the best or worst. I don't even know 75% of the people on this thread and they seem to know the best of everything.

Thoth
September 20th, 2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by zerosouls
oh and ya, half these people have never played vs the best spies either or alongside them. So unless you actually can admit that, you shouldn't be voting for who is the best or worst. I don't even know 75% of the people on this thread and they seem to know the best of everything.


Zerosouls for biggest homo!

<3

Influx-OD
September 20th, 2003, 12:53 AM
sai is the king

ZeusofIowa
September 20th, 2003, 01:28 AM
from what ive seen

cory, stonerpunk,

mrLahey
September 20th, 2003, 01:36 AM
cory is the man.

Scoff
September 20th, 2003, 01:47 AM
dazz/reptarcrunch is a good spy

bliX
September 20th, 2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by uBeR
http://www.james-bond007.de/assets/images/connery.gif ahahahaha

Halcyon
September 20th, 2003, 05:34 AM
bandwidth187

JmGyRo
September 20th, 2003, 06:02 AM
Rearranged, couldnt knife but always was very fast and got flags

Natas
September 20th, 2003, 06:43 AM
I would have to say Gator, Michman, Discoani, Greenbudz, Cory, Miyagi, and Sai are the best spies of tfc. Sorry if I left any good ones out its 4am. But Gator fucking pwns.

slimrrr
September 20th, 2003, 07:29 AM
sai's pretty good for a black kid.

Defrag
September 20th, 2003, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Soulbringer
U americans should mention some european spies for a change :) (meh! :P) my demo vs [DW] !!! (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~democenter/modules.php?name=Demos&file=demo&did=00546&mode=&order=0&thold=0) Like I said, I watched it and other than the first 5 minutes you didn't do anything really -- would've been of much more use as a medic killing the sentry :p

RiEmu
September 20th, 2003, 07:47 AM
I'd say it's either me, ME, ME (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~democenter/modules.php?name=Demos&file=demo&did=00155&mode=&order=0&thold=0) or James Bond played by Roger Moore.

Matthus
September 20th, 2003, 09:58 AM
kuja.

September 20th, 2003, 11:21 AM
sai's shit is so fun to watch. even as med he plays so smart.

Naufragus
September 20th, 2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Michman
about four months ago id say it was sai, stonerpunk, lloyd, and zulrich.. who knows now though.

I'm glad someone mentioned stoner.

Kutan
September 20th, 2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Zigroid
this isnt best of HWs thread. I had no idea kutan even played spy.
I played spy for 3 weeks on pubs when I was in DO.. since then I've played it maybe uhh.... twice

[CoS]tonysan
September 20th, 2003, 12:14 PM
Mich is a pretty awesome dm, knife his way in then sneak in and get the flag spy.

Astro is fuckin slippery as hell and methodically assures movement of the flag, stabs crazy when he has to.

sai, nam, and some |kar|demon guy have been pretty awesome when i played against them.

~A~
September 20th, 2003, 12:30 PM
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Kutan
September 20th, 2003, 12:32 PM
angel go back to sitting in your corner and crying you damn goth

Cenobite
September 20th, 2003, 12:51 PM
kelvin

Park
September 20th, 2003, 12:59 PM
<----- ;)

September 20th, 2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Cenobite
kelvin

lol yeah kelvin is fucking smart

sai
September 20th, 2003, 05:18 PM
vindicate's spy, mityas, is a damn fine spy. JAYKAY DAWG NUTTIN BUT <3 HAWWWWWW :p

Mityas
September 20th, 2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by sai
vindicate's spy, mityas, is a damn fine spy. JAYKAY DAWG NUTTIN BUT <3 HAWWWWWW :p Thanks. I try my hardest.

Tony
September 20th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by MatthusMan
kuja.

Id have to agree. hes the best spy ive played with/against

Theseus
September 20th, 2003, 09:25 PM
sai is the best spy by leaps and BOUNDS
he may be black as slimr mentioned however :(

eXCeLL
September 20th, 2003, 11:19 PM
madhatter.

peeinmybutt
September 21st, 2003, 03:09 PM
sai, lloyd, corey, and discoani

Ninja^
September 21st, 2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by one8seven
SAI

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AlphaBot_ILC
September 21st, 2003, 05:11 PM
you can't have a best spy thread without gator from c^ heading the list.

September 21st, 2003, 05:49 PM
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aLg-Medi.qc
September 21st, 2003, 10:40 PM
Soulbringer , we dont give a damn **** about euro spies......

ken
September 21st, 2003, 11:26 PM
always thought myagi was pretty good :)

NaiLbomB
September 22nd, 2003, 01:42 AM
cory
zulrich
dino velvet

Ep.
September 22nd, 2003, 02:39 AM
Strider. "back in the day"...ArCaNe, who is still a quality player.

An unlikely spy who is quite effective with it is Defrag. Effective because he does the subtle, unselfish things that benefit an offense as a whole.

Most of the elite spys I see playing now remind me of a toss between kamikaze medics and confused wannabe soldiers.

CapnAmerica
September 22nd, 2003, 04:10 AM
The best spies go unnoticed ;P

Sai is by far, the best spy I have ever seen in action, with DV coming in second (in his prime... not when he was backup engy for Zt. :( ). Mich is good, Miyagi is surprisingly good, but no one knows that yet, stoner is good, zulrich pwns, and that's about it.

Lloyd can tranq and knife someone near respawn, or from behind really well, but when he gets spotted first, he gets owned and he rarely if ever goes for flags. But that's imho.

Dospac
September 22nd, 2003, 05:21 AM
Spies are good?

Defrag
September 22nd, 2003, 10:52 AM
It's all for teh team :o

Zulrich's knife is ridiculous, but I'd say back in the day compact played spy so handily on maps like monkey he'd get the same amount of touches as the rest of our offy combined... kelvin was also amazing at spy before and after his army stint, I'll never forget that 8th demo v -Lf- where he fooled their entire defence repeatedly. :p

As Ep said, it's one thing to stab people and look handy, but it's quite another to get a lot of movement and to play off other people. On a lot of maps, the best spies are the ones the enemy team doesn't even notice until their flag is outgoing :p

King_Nada
September 22nd, 2003, 12:25 PM
Sai - he adds to a good offense where the average "good spy" would just be able to work around the same offense. That and he's the fastest non bhop player I've ever seen (he does bhop hella fast, just that he's also hella fast when he doesn't). Once he's inside your defense you don't get a chance to decide if he's a spy or not. You shoot the moment you see him or you die/loose the flag.

King

Nauseous
September 23rd, 2003, 02:13 AM
Kuja of ]Xi[ is the best spy evar!

kretz
September 23rd, 2003, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by zerosouls
all the idiots posting on how good a spy is just because they can knife someone, ya, they own!111

Best spy ever is LordCalvert from DIV. Fucker would get into base, get the flag and people still go wtf he come from? Thats a real spy. Not this.. OMG HE SHANKED ME COMING DOWN RAMP AHH HE'S GOOD! Since when do we measure a good medic by how easy he can kill? Anyone can dm. Can they move the flag? No? Go join the likes of people that toss nades and hide behind corners. Yes? Good, a med who CTF's, not just DM.

To summarize for the tl;dr fags

A good spy is a flag moving spy not just a knife whore.

outlaw98
September 23rd, 2003, 05:15 AM
I am not bad! finally coming back to form after a 2 year break from tfc :D

Xion
September 23rd, 2003, 09:56 AM
Me as Spy def on openfire, I can def the fd single handedly with gas grens.

bona
September 23rd, 2003, 01:22 PM
atty

larcain
September 23rd, 2003, 06:09 PM
Budzie not only plays a smart spy, but he's fast and stabs well(annoying bastage :) ).

September 23rd, 2003, 06:16 PM
Discoani / sai

tmpBudz
September 24th, 2003, 10:16 AM
sai ,stilletto, Mich, and Zulrich are my picks ;)