I'm so glad I didn't buy this game.

[Vr_]

well you are shooting zombies.

i dont think anyone knows the real bullet count to take down a zombie yet, so maybe 4 clips comes close?

(ps. try shooting the head!#$%&&#$!)

[Nine]

The first bullet that makes the zombie fly backwards happens to be the one that kills him. Why do they take no damage then suddenly they die? It's retarded.

The House of the Dead 2 is leeter.

[beef_jerky]

also glad i didnt waste 60 bucks

[~A~]

not as big a waste of money as mission impossible operation surma LOLZ i hate you lich

[DarthGreg]

not as big a waste of money as mission impossible operation surma LOLZ i hate you lich
rofl

[OhGr]

Doom 3 is just a technology test for the engine, for licensing purposes, even more so than Quake 3 was. If you thought this game was going to be anything new, you deserve to be disappointed.

perhaps ur right darth, to bad the "Im to cool to be happy something fucking new came out" ppl cant understand this.

the game is by far better than 95% of whats out right now the only game that can even compare is Far Cry soon both will be stomped by Half Life 2 and it wont matter but holy fuck U ppl need to lighten up its a game u act as if its the coming of christ and U didnt get a t shirt. Grow up Life is full of disapointments Im glad u didnt waste ur money to if thats how you feel about but I was always told "until ur shit is perfect dont fucking bash someone elses." of course u got right to ur own thoughts but Damn lil over board.

[DarthGreg]

I think maybe my gaming standards are a bit high. Pretty much all I play is Half-Life. Couldn't stand Far Cry. The last single player shooter I really got into, since Half-Life, was System Shock 2, and that was a long time ago.

All Doom 3 did well were graphics, end of story, and that is sure as hell not enough to make me play a game. In all other regards, Doom 3 is the same recycled shit you've seen in every single player shooter for the last 5 years.

Maybe it is better than 95% of what's out there, but that's not good enough for me.

[Nine]

I can think of a few games, even of that type, that I'd much rather play.

I can't believe it's been so long and still no one but Retro (Metroid Prime) has made a good ragdoll effect. Like seriously how hard is it to make a bendable spine? Make animations or fix ragdoll.

[OhGr]

well sorry to disapoint more ppl but if u look at all the expected releases for story lines U wont find anything different than whats ALREADY been done.

even Half Life 2 is gonna be same shit so that complaint goes out window, if thats what ppl base the standards from.
My standards are high as well but I still have an apreciation for the game itself. DOOM like u said was a way to just prop the engine for sales.

I agree the sounds on guns and looks of the guns are kind of gay but if u compare to what I spend most of my online time doin playing TFC its a big leap so for me it looks fine and handled good. Far Cry was just a sleeper release few knew about it and it was a nice release for being the first of its kind by the company so I gave it some props for actually being the first to be out before DOOM and HL2 that had some detail and gfx.

U both (darth, Nine ) bring up really good points on topic I just feel that ppl get to critical over a game instead of just playing it and enjoying it. each to his own I guess.

good topic though.

[NaKa008]

i dunno doom3 is nice and all but the only problem with it is its just dark, too dark, the rest is fine. id isnt there for games its more of the engien, look at the q3 engien look how meny games use that. HL2 will be the same allmost as every thing else but with maybe a longer story (so i hope)... far cry and doom3 are about the same right now for me, i beat far cry and working on doom3 but i like to take my time and enjoy a game that has never looked so good, sure there is a few flaws but they cant please ever person in the gameing world.... playing tfc for as long as its been out its nice to see something that is ready to test my system too :D

[Nine]

OhGr, I don't think you get it. When a game is hyped as much as Doom 3 was and it turns out to be this bad.. I think we're entitled to our rage.

You probably think people should just all get along and "enjoy" StarWars: The Phantom Menace.

[Janus]

The game is okay not great, not terrible, but just okay. Same stuff happens over and over again, the only new-ness to it is when a new monster is introduced, and basically replaces one from a couple maps before. Besides that, its eh, good gfx and sounds. The environment is good, although I would agree that it is wayyyy to dark (i hate having to switch between a flashlight and my weapon). I thank God that the people went off and modded a few of the weapons to have lights with them.

I unfortunately (somewhat) did buy the game, after d/ling it, because I wanted to do the multiplayer and stuff, which I still have yet to do, but I figure there will be some pretty sweet mods etc.

[Nine]

Yes. The game is not terrible. The part that I'm so pissed off about is that they were all excited about how new and amazing it would be. DG is right. They just shipped a shitty game with their new engine.

[Champ]

I'm glad I didn't download this game. I bought it. Like the rest of you poor bastards should have.

[Rimuladas]

i give it a 6/10

to linear of a plotline, can really only go one way in the game
to dark
to much find the pda open the door crap
pretty simple to see where monsters are going to come out of the walls once you play it
-best part was when you goto hell
-i got bored after going to hell, and coming back to this stupid complex. i mean cmon, i just killed some uber demon thats about 80 stories tall, only to die by some stupid zombie that drops on me from teh ceiling ...err what? huh?

What about the fact that this is the future.... how about some freakin night vision goggles, or at least a maglight that goes under the barrel of your guns.... so much is missing from this game... i bought it.... unfourtunatly.....

[advocate]

perhaps ur right darth, to bad the "Im to cool to be happy something fucking new came out" ppl cant understand this.

the game is by far better than 95% of whats out right now the only game that can even compare is Far Cry soon both will be stomped by Half Life 2 and it wont matter but holy fuck U ppl need to lighten up its a game u act as if its the coming of christ and U didnt get a t shirt. Grow up Life is full of disapointments Im glad u didnt waste ur money to if thats how you feel about but I was always told "until ur shit is perfect dont fucking bash someone elses." of course u got right to ur own thoughts but Damn lil over board.

ITS CALLED A FUCKING PERIOD. Jesus.

[advocate]

i give it a 6/10

to linear of a plotline, can really only go one way in the game
to dark
to much find the pda open the door crap
pretty simple to see where monsters are going to come out of the walls once you play it
-best part was when you goto hell
-i got bored after going to hell, and coming back to this stupid complex. i mean cmon, i just killed some uber demon thats about 80 stories tall, only to die by some stupid zombie that drops on me from teh ceiling ...err what? huh?

What about the fact that this is the future.... how about some freakin night vision goggles, or at least a maglight that goes under the barrel of your guns.... so much is missing from this game... i bought it.... unfourtunatly.....

ITS TOO. Jesus.

nightvision would ruin it.
Being able to see while shooting would ruin it.
Get a clue.

[drastic-]

I'm glad I didn't download this game. I bought it. Like the rest of you poor bastards should have.

[MitsuMan]

ITS TOO.
If you want to get picky, you're missing an apostrophe.

[ffej-OD]

i had fun playing it.

and i hardly believe all you faggots crying about how youre so disapointed its not the most revolutionary piece of software the gaming the world has ever seen. Why? because i guarentee you all played it till the end. IF IT WAS SO BAD WHY DID YOU KEEP PLAYING?? I know if i didnt like a game i wouldnt continue to play it, id uninstall that shit asap. Stop being so dramatic douchebags its just a game and it was fun. Who gives a fuck about anything else.


ps. Such inconsistant realism

i hope that was a joke, i mean did you really fucking type that out in a DOOM3 review holy shit.

[Nine]

i had fun playing it.

and i hardly believe all you faggots crying about how youre so disapointed its not the most revolutionary piece of software the gaming the world has ever seen. Why? because i guarentee you all played it till the end. IF IT WAS SO BAD WHY DID YOU KEEP PLAYING?? I know if i didnt like a game i wouldnt continue to play it, id uninstall that shit asap. Stop being so dramatic douchebags its just a game and it was fun. Who gives a fuck about anything else.


ps.

i hope that was a joke, i mean did you really fucking type that out in a DOOM3 review holy shit.
lol where'd i say i played it to the end?

[Fred_sanford]

$55 graphics demo

[Sen]

it has an awesome engine..the game just needs some good single player mods and multiplayer..

[Cyberdemon]

The guns are the shittiest probably that I've ever seen. Seconded or tied only by half life. I fire 4 pistol rounds into a guy and he's like muuh! Yeah okay. Maybe if he was dusted up. You'd think in the future their standard issue pistol would be a bit more than some peashooter with a fucking wood finish grip. The shotgun sounds like I'm whipping pebbles at a can and I see no launching zombies. This is entirely unacceptable. The shotgun in Doom was one of the most awesome shotguns ever and they throw this piece of shit at me. What the fuck ever, id.

The shotgun was done pretty well, but the rocket launcher was the big disappointment for me (AFAIK, it's the only weapon you can use to launch zombies in the air). The pistol's nothing too menacing, but you only use it for the first few levels anyway.

And maybe it's just me but I'm pretty sure a PDA should have a way to record text data. Maybe I just didn't UNLOCK IT YET?! Listening through fucking audio recordings to get passwords is bullshit.

Check the "User Email" tab on the PDA screen.

The way the bodies disappear is utter garbage. It makes no sense at all. Such inconsistant realism pisses Nine off, hear me? IT PISSES ME OFF!!

Well, we are talking about a game centered around fighting zombies on Mars travelling through a teleporter gate from Hell. :)

What about the fact that this is the future.... how about some freakin night vision goggles, or at least a maglight that goes under the barrel of your guns.... so much is missing from this game... i bought it.... unfourtunatly.....

It was designed to be dark to the point where you couldn't see clearly and shoot at the same time. Since the flashlight never runs out of power, if it were attached to all the guns there would be no reason to ever turn it off. Night vision would destroy the game entirely.

I don't see what's so hard about tracking where those fireballs are coming from and aiming appropriately, but using the flashlight with the guns would be cool if it could only stay on for a limited amount of time or something.

[Jarek]

judging by the few hl2 videos i have seen, it also pretty much looks like recycled material with better graphics.

but it is half life so at least we know the story will be *decent*

[Shadead]

D3 was a remake of the original story. So of course it's going to be recycled. So far I've been pretty pleased with it. I do however agree on the gun sounds. As far as the shotgun, I like what they did with it.

I really like the change of pace with the darkness. I'm pretty tired of playing games like hl that have no shadows at all but just bland colored areas. Some areas in D3 could have a little more light to them though, but you're supposed to be in a complex that just got taken over by the devil. That said I think they did a damn good job.

Their level designs are top notch when it comes to single player. While things may be a little to linear they do a great job of making things visually appealing and feel like your actually in that place.

Yes the creatures are a bit predictable. Not entirely suprising though considering your playing a video game and no matter what your expecting those creatures to jump out at you. Playing it at night with the sound up or headphones on though really adds to it though. The sounds and creapy effects they did really take away any complaints I have with it being to predictable.

[Glimmerman]

I played it for about an hour and thought it was freaky as fuck.
I was so scared I borrowed it to my brother and now im playing neverwinter nights!!
Seriously,for the very short time I played it,the graphics looked kick-ass and the darkness and the flashlight gave it a sense of "oh-fuck"
I will play it to the end once I get it back then give it a 8 outta 10 maybe :)
compare it to the other shit out there,its prolly the best,Halflife2 will most likely make it look like a "sally-girl" but hey,what can ya do. :P

[Nine]

glimmerman do you have hotu and sou?

[sc`]

I want to know more about the mod scene so I can decide whether to re-sell my copy or not.

[Nine]

That's from house of the dead 1, before the magician became even cooler.

[-Serialchilla-]

Skip to the end for a summary

8/10 so far, but im not that far along...just found bravo team and the transmission device thingie

and the floating heads are NOT cacodemons, they're lost souls (the floating skulls on fire from the old games) and i like this model a lot more, because when you actually look at it and think about it...its a person's head right? Okay, so this persons head has been severed from their body, and their mouth has been opened so wide that the flesh of their cheeks ripped clean in half all the way back to the jawbone. And it's on fire :eek:

Tell me that THAT is not fucking awesome, and i'll tell you the name of a fucking bald-faced lying homo.

Of course like nine said, the ragdolls suck ass (soldier of fortune has ragdolls that still beat 99% of today's games and it was made in fucking 1998-99 or so)
The weapons could definitely use some improvements too...i was sorely disappointed in everything, even the bfg, but the shotgun is by far the worst. Why not give us an old fashioned double barrel shottie like in the other ones just for old time's sake? That was by far the greatest gun in the doom line, now its just shitty. Also, every other doom game has weapons that got better and better as you went on, which of course made you want to use them more....but GUESS WHAT YOU COULDNT DO THAT NYAH HAH AHAH because of limited ammo on higher difficulties. The only gun i use is the machine gun now, because there is no reason to use anything else (no different death animations/ragdolls/ANYTHING) and as far as fast and powerful go, thats about as good as it gets, unfortunately. The ammo is still KINDA scarce for the "better" weapons in this game, but what incentive do you have to use them when you can kill an enemy just as quickly with a gun that has more ammo readily available?

All of its shortcomings aside, i rate the game so high because its so immersive when playing with a large screen and surround sound/good headphones that at one point i actually jumped when an imp popped up behind me after throwing a switch in a really fucking tiny room...it sounded like the fucking thing was screeching behind me IRL

i paused the game and called my friend mike, and told him "holy shit dude, you gotta play this shit, i pretty much jumped out of my chair just now"

Summary:
-8/10

Good stuff:
-highly interactive environments
-awesome graphics, detailed enemy and player models
-even better sound
-fucking freaky as shit, and not being able to use a flashlight and gun at the same time only adds to the "HOLY SHIT IS IT DEAD YET?! KILL IT KILL IT!!!" factor
-YOU GO TO HELL AND KICK ASS, ITS FUCKING DOOM

Bad stuff:
-I didnt give a fuck about bravo team. Fuck em, if they want to live, let THEM locate ME, not the other way around.
-Weapons...they just suck.
-Stupid enemy AI and little (IF ANY) ragdoll physics
-PDAs suck ass. A lot of ass. Smelly, hairy, sweaty ass.

[Bad Luck]

Besides the sounds of some of the weapons (machine gun and pistol mainly) I really have no complaints about this game. I found the story entertaining, the graphics were pretty damn good. And it accomplished its main objective pretty well, making you jump.

Greg I remember you constantly talking about how your fps was terrible and you could barely play the game, so I don't know how you can judge it very well.

Chilla, besides shooting cans, what is interactive about the enviroments?

My opinions usually change about things after a few weeks, like when I first played through Far Cry I thought it was completely retarded. Now I think it's actually a pretty good game. Resident evil the movie, when I first saw it I hated it, then I kept thinking about it and wanted to see it again. I've had Doom3 for a month now and I still think it's a well put together game.

[danger]

What did you guys expect? I mean you knew going into it that at most, its just an FPS. It's not like some hot chick is going to jump out of your monitor and start giving you head underneath your computer desk. It's just prettier polygons than the FPS before it. That's all a new FPS ever is. The storyline for an FPS was okay, although after playing half-life it feels like it's already been done before.

It seems like FPS's as a genre has hit a roadblock similar to RTS's: redundancy. At this point, basically everything has been done, so to do something innovative is very hard. I know I'm dubious as to whether Half-Life 2 is really going to be something that original.

[Nine]

You think half life was orignal? All half life did was combine two or 3 games.

[danger]

Um what FPS did you play that had a single player anything near as good as Half-Life's before it came out? Oh yeah, nothing. That's called originality.

[Ignatz]

OK i spent the money. and i just spent the last 3 days playing and finishing the game, maybe 16 hours total.

Good: Although the game is more about the engine, like people said, there are points where the engine is actually exploited for good gameplay. Like the part where you follow that guide drone through totally dark smoky hallways, trying to keep up with the light while youre in a running firefight with imps. that wasnt bad.
The sheer level of creepiness, what with the darkness and the blood and the garish lighting does tend to get to you whether you want it to or not, even though theres very little depth to the horror.
the music and sound design was really pretty good imo. it did what it was designed to do well.
the weapons were... ummm... well they killed things pretty good. about the only remarkable thing i can think of is, using the rocket launcher to bounce imps off the ceiling at 100 mph was pretty fun.


Bad: THe whole game's premise and gameplay is cheap. Of COURSE the flashlight/weapon thing is totally necessary, if you could see everything then the game would go from scary to sucky because all the scares are the same. monsters jump from behind hidden sliding walls, put there for no logical storyline based reason. every time a monster spawns directly ahead, another one does behind.
It's a cheap ass carney haunted house decorated with pentagrams and 666 and goats heads and every other pimply teenage 80's satanic heavy metal cliche. That shit may have been fresh as hell 10 years ago, but it's just old and busted now.

Edit: also i havent played a ton of FPS games but did it seem like doom3 totally ripped off half-life's story? you go through office with no weapons, get your assignment, something goes wrong and a conenction to another dimension gets openend and monsters come out, administration turns against you, you have to get a message out, then youre "on your own" with the task of shutting down the connection, then you face the biggest monstrer who controls everything.

[One Winged Angel]

Doom 3 didn't rip any story elements from Half-Life. If anything it ripped from the first two Dooms.

I just finnished playing, and I liked the game a lot. People who didn't buy the game shouldn't be complaining about it. That's all I have to say.

[greenbeard]

I've finished it twice, and in all honesty I like it, but I'm not real impressed with it. Of course the graffix are going to be awesome; but it should offer more to me that I can appreciate and use. Worst weapon? Shotgun.
The multiplayer is the only thing that might be a saving grace (once they unfuck all the bugs with it). Bottom line is I used this game to judge how much I needed to upgrade when HL2 eventually releases. I LOVE HL AND HL PHYSICS.

I can't wait til it comes out so I can shut my buddy's big honkin' yapper about how much better D3 is than HL2 could ever be...

6.5/10

[One Winged Angel]

The shotgun really isn't that bad... if you're trying to use it at long range then you deserve to be frustrated.

[greenbeard]

The shotgun really isn't that bad... if you're trying to use it at long range then you deserve to be frustrated.

nope, it's in-your-face or nothing. Mainly because that's the only way to hit anything with it.

[Nine]

I have seen 2 games with a realistic shotgun. Rainbow Six and The Specialists.

Seriously, every fucking game's shotgun has like a 2 inch barrel.

[gatekeeper]

HL2 will be better. How do I know this? I think it has to do with the fact I can actually see what I am shooting at. Im having fun with the game now that I had the flashlight mod.

[One Winged Angel]

nope, it's in-your-face or nothing. Mainly because that's the only way to hit anything with it.You obviously don't play enough medic and engineer.

[Dingo]

I got the game when it first came out, was ok wasnt impressive imo either just a "face lift" per say. havent played it in weeks now and have no desire to. HL2 definality will kill this game.

[Perm]

The game sucked. Even some more thorough reviews (like Giz's) are essentially rationalizations for why you should like this game more. The games you get into just feel right. They flow (Half-Life), they immerse you (System Shock 2, Deus Ex), they make you want to see what's around the next corner (Far Cry). All of these things, Doom 3 is not.

well sorry to disapoint more ppl but if u look at all the expected releases for story lines U wont find anything different than whats ALREADY been done.

even Half Life 2 is gonna be same shit so that complaint goes out window, if thats what ppl base the standards from.

It doesn't even matter if the story is the "same." Look at the first Half-Life.... freak accident and you are a one man killing machine fighting his way against some soldiers and aliens, how original. On the surface, the game is just the same old tired story, rehashed and resold. Anyone who has played it realizes that isn't what Half-Life is.

I believe that HL2 will be a success because Mike Harrington and Gabe Newell created Valve with the intent of making fun games. They are obviously very uninterested in sticking to industry norms... like say, release dates? They admitted to the world that the first version of HL2 was scrapped completely, because it was just outdated and not fun.

It's the little things like the physics, the continuous persistent level design, etc that will set the game apart. Admittedly, because HL2 isn't released, it's hard to tell how successful it will truly be... I'm simply stating that if anyone has the potential to make a fun and original FPS in this day of redundancy, it's Valve.

As far as getting back on topic, Doom 3 was crap. If you can't even be bothered to come up with a plausible excuse for why you couldn't duct tape your flashlight to your gun... you didn't even try to make it interesting.

[danger]

Half-Life is what is because of a certain two letter acronym...

[Perm]

I hope you don't mean CS. If you've been playing Half-Life since it was released, you'd realize that CS was an additional phenomenon.. not *the* phenomenon.

[H-Town]

Half-Life is what is because of a certain two letter acronym...

Half-Life was it's own phenomenon. CS is it's own phenomenon.

[Vr_]

then DOD but they let that go to hell in a hand basket.

[Perm]

DoD was just the original TF2 leftover idea brought to fruition. In the wake of games such as bf1942, CoD, etc, it was pretty much unnecessary. Its only advantage over the other games was the HL netcode.

[danger]

CS is the reason half-life sells 5 years after it was released.

Without CS, Half-Life was game of the year, with it, it's the most successful FPS in history...

CS really brought gaming to the mainstream. In 1998 if you were to talk to your friends at your dorm room about Half-Life they wouldn't know wtf you were talking about. Now it's like every person on campus knows what it is because they play counter strike. CS made Half-Life the phenomenon that it is.

[MoeFeaux]

perhaps ur right darth, to bad the "Im to cool to be happy something fucking new came out" ppl cant understand this.

the game is by far better than 95% of whats out right now the only game that can even compare is Far Cry soon both will be stomped by Half Life 2 and it wont matter but holy fuck U ppl need to lighten up its a game u act as if its the coming of christ and U didnt get a t shirt. Grow up Life is full of disapointments Im glad u didnt waste ur money to if thats how you feel about but I was always told "until ur shit is perfect dont fucking bash someone elses." of course u got right to ur own thoughts but Damn lil over board.

I'm enjoying Doom III, but as far as 1 player FPS's go, Far Cry is better.

[Noremorse]

CS made Half-Life the phenomenon that it is.

Without HL, C.S. would be nothing right now hands down.

If anything it ripped from the first two Dooms.

Why do people keep relating this game to the first two Dooms. D3 has absolutely no ties with the first two, I can give you links to behind the scene development movies of the producers themselves saying that D3 is not connected with the others. The first two Dooms were hell on earth, this is hell on another planet. Sure it's kind of the same scenario but it has a deeper story line then just run and gun.

I'm pretty tired of playing games like hl that have no shadows at all but just bland colored areas.

What in the hell do you expect from an engine that's so old? It's pretty stupid to actually compare the HL engine to the D3 engine, because obviously HL doesen't hold a candle to D3 technology. The HL engine is one of the best classic FPS engines ever made and it has covered more ground with mods than any other FPS mod out. Thousands of single and multi player mods were spawned from the HL engine and people are still making mods. I used to live in the U.K. and was part of the production of HL Isolation but I moved here to go to school and I could no longer help out in the production of the mod. Eventually several other people abandoned the mod due to lack of help, we just didn't have enough help to finish the game because we wanted it to be massive.

D3 short review:

Weapons - The "feel" and sounds of them was a complete failure

Graphics - Of course excellent, I can't help but think that the game was just made to show off the engine

Atmosphere - One of the better parts of the game. It does a good job of messing with your head and really immersing you into the environment with good ambience. I constantly found myself in paranoya to what the hell was near me, what the fuck am I staring at, where did that sound come from/what the hell is that sound, etc. The darkness did get annoying, but it's supposed to be dark to add to the suspense.

Story line - Totally ripped off HL

I think people anticipated this game to be way more than what it is. It's a good game but they could have done alot better in some areas, mainly with the weapons. I almost stopped playing simply because the weapons were an insult to the carnage that the game dishes out. It's good but I refuse to believe that this is as good as it gets. I believe HL2 will dominate D3.

[One Winged Angel]

Why do people keep relating this game to the first two Dooms. D3 has absolutely no ties with the first two, I can give you links to behind the scene development movies of the producers themselves saying that D3 is not connected with the others. The first two Dooms were hell on earth, this is hell on another planet. Sure it's kind of the same scenario but it has a deeper story line then just run and gun.The only reason I'm posting is because you quoted me. The stories are separate from one another, nobody is disputing that. But you said it yoruself, The first two were hell on earth, and this one is hell on mars. Demons come through portals from another dimension and manage to kill every single human except for one nameless marine, your character. And what happens? You kill everything, take a trip to hell, kill everything there, and come back, kill some more, and finally you win when there's nothing left to kill. The background story in Doom III is an added bonus that you have an option of paying any attention to. If you want a background story for the original Dooms (which is by the way much more in depth than the Doom III storyline), then read the four novels based on the first two Dooms. They are actually a pretty good read for someone with a 13 year old intellect. And for your information, the original Doom started out on the moons of Mars, Phobos and Diemos.

[One Winged Angel]

Yeah

[Noremorse]

Oh well, I played through half the game then sold it.

[OhGr]

I see one large error being made here. The first DOOM took place on Mars and Phobos (I would also say Deimos but that one was the one suspended over Hell I think). DOOM II was Hell on Earth. I think DOOM 3 was actually meant to be a retelling of the first DOOM.

Its suppose to be before all of the others took place.

[sc`]

I wish I had not bought the game, especially for 60 dollars.