Best Drummer?

[lb_]

In light of Palmy's generic guitarist thread, figured I'd make one for drummers.

I was recently looking around for drumming stuff, and found a few videos of these two guys. Both are pretty intense with solo stuff, and doing silly tricks and whatnot.

Thomas Lang (check the top right video) http://www.hudsonmusic.com/QuickTime/LANG/LANGQT.html
and more popular,
John Blackwell http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/johnblackwellgroove.html

so who's your pick?

[Thrash]

I'll do it before Palmy does, Flo from Cryptosy. He's an insanely good drummer. Easily one of the best if not the best.

SO PALMY SINCE THAT HAS BEEN PUT ASIDE LETS NAME SOME OTHER GOOD DRUMMERS

Hella's Drummer Zach Hill is very very talented, the stuff he does live only adds to it.

I have heard N*Sync's drummer is insanely talented (from my old drum instructor, Jim Sisson, and he knows his shit) but I haven't found any of his solos or other bands or anything.

[Ser]

i would have to say
john bonham from led zep

the guy is a fuckin animal
he is so powerful behind the drums

i dont think anybody can touch him live, hes just an animal, i think he was the force behind led zeps live performances

[matt-]

Neil Peart is amazing.

[lb_]

When I turn 18, I inherit one of Bonham's touring kits.. Ludwig Concertmaster :]

[ALieN]

Gene Hogland (Death, Strapping Young Lad) is sick.

[Griffith-]

Tony Royster Jr

[Palmy]

I'll do it before Palmy does, Flo from Cryptosy. He's an insanely good drummer. Easily one of the best if not the best.

SO PALMY SINCE THAT HAS BEEN PUT ASIDE LETS NAME SOME OTHER GOOD DRUMMERS
Hah.

Axel Von Blomberg (Hellhammer)
Jaane Saarenpaa
Michael Van Dyne

...And Flo.

[Palmy]

I have heard N*Sync's drummer is insanely talented (from my old drum instructor, Jim Sisson, and he knows his shit) but I haven't found any of his solos or other bands or anything.
Wouldn't doubt it. Pop drummers like those are generally pretty amazing.

[Modal Auxiliary]

Hah.

Axel Von Blomberg (Hellhammer)
Jaane Saarenpaa
Michael Van Dyne

...And Flo.

Nice. Saarenpaa fucking owns. Add Adrian Erlandsson and you have a list of the best metal drummers ever.

[Thrash]

Wouldn't doubt it. Pop drummers like those are generally pretty amazing.

Sarcasm?

[Tedor]

I have heard N*Sync's drummer is insanely talented

http://drummerworld.com/drummers/Bill_Ashbaugh.html

personally, my drum heroes are nick menza from megadeth,
and damon che from don caballero. both are damn amazing.

[Thrash]

The Wonderful Flo Mounier (http://www.tehsug.net/thrash/Flo%20Mounier%20-%20Cryptopsy%20-%20Drum%20Solo.zip)

Also that's not a good example of N*Syncs drummers skill. (Well from what I have heard)

Question: How can anyone like that trash? Justin's voice was just pre-pubescent and annoying. And I enjoy Stratovarius.

The random sounds he made didn't help anything.

[Palmy]

Sarcasm?
Not this time.

[MuTaTiS]

Dave Lombardo....suprised noone mentioned him yet. (Slayer's drummer for those who don't know :o )

[Repair Man]

http://drummerworld.com/drummers/Jimmy_Chamberlin.html

[Ignatz]

Jimmy Chamberlin. He was so awesome on the album "Gish."

I absolutely love Dave Grohl too. If you go back and listen to Nirvana, it's the drums that really hook you.

[jerriko]

The Guy from Shadows Fall is real good.

[adamantium]

Neil Peart is amazing.

I'll have to agree here, Neil fucking owns.

Also, I've always really liked Spag/Spüg/Matthew McDonough from Mudvayne.

[sani]

i've always liked Carter Beauford from DMB but Bonham hands down in my book

[drone]

keith moon (the who)

[Thrash]

Why not just say Dream Theater.....?

[lb_]

Damnit who let tys in here :|

[UsTeD]

Dana Carvey :o

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

unorthodox option:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drum4/guestlove5.jpg

[Googol]

I don't like saying there's a definite best, but here are some of my influences:

Virgil Donati - His patterns are insane. Great player and very versatile (fusion to pop). Can overplay at times, but mostly plays in the pocket. He's really in his prime now, and is pushing modern drumming forward.

Elvin Jones - The epitome of taste. Outstanding cymbal and polyrhythmic work. I'm starting to really listen to jazz and he has stood above others that I've heard from.

Carter Beauford & Chad Sexton are perhaps my biggest sources of inspiration these days. Great sense of groove (the most important aspect of being a drummer IMO), taste and ability.

[foreveR]

No love for Art Blakey or Buddy Rich here :mad:.

I was only going to name some jazz drummers because I'm partially clueless in the metal genre and I'd go off into naming some of the guys I worked with in DCI and PASICs. I love metal drumming and all, we used to listen to it hardcore on tour, but I can't imagine anyone here being enthralled with jazz or technical drummers(there's quite a few guys our age that'd blow some guys you're listing right out of the water).

[Palmy]

No love for Art Blakey or Buddy Rich here :mad:.

I was only going to name some jazz drummers because I'm partially clueless in the metal genre and I'd go off into naming some of the guys I worked with in DCI and PASICs. I love metal drumming and all, we used to listen to it hardcore on tour, but I can't imagine anyone here being enthralled with jazz or technical drummers(there's quite a few guys our age that'd blow some guys you're listing right out of the water).
Actually, I enjoy jazz drumming and a good amount of jazz as a whole. And the drummers I listed rape every single jazz drummer I've heard. And yes, they are EXTREMELY technical.

[foreveR]

Actually, I enjoy jazz drumming and a good amount of jazz as a whole. And the drummers I listed rape every single jazz drummer I've heard. And yes, they are EXTREMELY technical.

I really hope you aren't trying to say your guys could sit in and do a set of 13 bars and play like Rich or Blakey. I'm not trying to say jazz drummers could replace metal guys, but trying to compare the technicality of many jazz drummers for who playing technical is an evil of jazz to guys who do it and need it to refine and make their music that much better is just laughable. Again, I'm not bashing metal drummers, some of them are insane, but cmon.

[Palmy]

I really hope you aren't trying to say your guys could sit in and do a set of 13 bars and play like Rich or Blakey. I'm not trying to say jazz drummers could replace metal guys, but trying to compare the technicality of many jazz drummers for who playing technical is an evil of jazz to guys who do it and need it to refine and make their music that much better is just laughable. Again, I'm not bashing metal drummers, some of them are insane, but cmon.
Well, I haven't heard Rich or Blakey, and you probably have heard the drummers I've listed. So why don't we both post some clips of our 'best' drummers?

[Googol]

I really hope you aren't trying to say your guys could sit in and do a set of 13 bars and play like Rich or Blakey. I'm not trying to say jazz drummers could replace metal guys, but trying to compare the technicality of many jazz drummers for who playing technical is an evil of jazz to guys who do it and need it to refine and make their music that much better is just laughable. Again, I'm not bashing metal drummers, some of them are insane, but cmon.

I'll never understand the public's fascination with jazz and the high respect it has, while many equally talented (but in a different style) musicians hardly get any. A good bebop drummer would have just a hard a time playing Messuggah as Haake would having to play a bebop tune.

There are plenty of great jazz musicians, but the very good ones outnumber the crappy ones just like in any genre. There are hacks in both genre, it just so happens that few hacks make it to the top in jazz, whereas they do in others. The audience is very critical, selective and demands more in terms of skill than other genres.

I prefer a loose approach to jazz drumming and I even mentioned Jones in my list of "best" drummers. Never really cared for Rich.

Also, I need to add Harrison (of porcupine tree) to my list of current favorites. Some really good stuff, "The Sound of Muzak" has some killer drumming in 7.

[Palmy]

I just listened to some Blakey with the Jazz Messengers... Flo and Axel Von Blomberg would destroy them. No contest.

[foreveR]

I just listened to some Blakey with the Jazz Messengers... Flo and Axel Von Blomberg would destroy them. No contest.

lol, we're not even on the same page here, the conversation's over. If you've somehow diluted yourself into thinking those guys can play jazz, then...wow.

[Palmy]

lol, we're not even on the same page here, the conversation's over. If you've somehow diluted yourself into thinking those guys can play jazz, then...wow.
You have no idea what kind of drummers Flo and Blomberg are. You've never even heard their work, so why are you still arguing? Hah, "DILUTED" myself into thinking they can play jazz... Congratulations for making the most ignorant statement on the music forum so far.

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

Congratulations for making the most ignorant statement on the music forum so far.

at least it's a nice change of pace from the usual classic rock elitism

LED ZEPPELIN IS THE BEST BAND EVAR

NOTHING FROM THE LAST THREE DECADES COMES CLOSE

[Thrash]

Look at what I found everybody!!!!










http://www.961kiss.com/timages/page/kitten.jpg

[foreveR]

You have no idea what kind of drummers Flo and Blomberg are. You've never even heard their work, so why are you still arguing? Hah, "DILUTED" myself into thinking they can play jazz... Congratulations for making the most ignorant statement on the music forum so far.

Uh oh, look out, its Palmy giving an opinion about everything because he is a known music God. Oh, wait, you're not, you're some misinformed metal head. I already said I was fairly in the dark with metal but you somehow know everything about jazz(sorry, you don't even come close and if you want to start a jazz thread go ahead), especially drummers(wow, I haven't been drumming for over half of my life or anything), went out and listened to at most 1 Art Blakey CD although I really doubt it was even that much and said "Hey, huh huh, my guys can do anything those guys can without a problem because I'm vastly misinformed about the talent needed to improvise well and play a genre that is so completely different from metal that comparing drummers is beyond fucking stupid." I was never the one who said Rich or Blakey or someone of the like could ever do what those guys do, but there's no fucking way your metal drummers are just Jesus Christ in disguise and can transcend genres with ease like you did.

Please Palmy, dazzle me more with your amazing knowledge of jazz and percussion. :rolleyes:

[Palmy]

Uh oh, look out, its Palmy giving an opinion about everything because he is a known music God. Oh, wait, you're not, you're some misinformed metal head. I already said I was fairly in the dark with metal but you somehow know everything about jazz(sorry, you don't even come close and if you want to start a jazz thread go ahead), especially drummers(wow, I haven't been drumming for over half of my life or anything), went out and listened to at most 1 Art Blakey CD although I really doubt it was even that much and said "Hey, huh huh, my guys can do anything those guys can without a problem because I'm vastly misinformed about the talent needed to improvise well and play a genre that is so completely different from metal that comparing drummers is beyond fucking stupid."

Please Palmy, dazzle me more with your amazing knowledge of jazz and percussion. :rolleyes:
God forbid I give an opinion on a music forum. That's fine if you think I'm a misinformed metal head (nevermind the fact that ONE out of my top three favorite artists of the moment are metal), but that's only because you're a pretentious jazz elitist.

First, please tell me where I said I know everything about jazz. Please. Just one quote that says this.

Second, you were the one that stated there were a couple drummers you knew of that would completely blow the guys I'm listening to out of the water.

Third, the drummers I listed fucking grew up doing jazz and latin drumming.

Fourth, if you think I've listened to the wrong Art Blakey stuff, I already suggested you post some clips.

Forever, you have nothing to talk about, so just shut up. Thanks.

[Stinkfist]

my boy Josh Freese weeeeeee (may not be the best, but i met him) :D

-stink

[Thrash]

Chill ladies

[Naufragus]

Zach Velmer from Sound Tribe Sector 9 or Stanton Moore from Galactic.

[Cobalt]

Chad Sexton from 311 and the guy from Liquid Tension.
Both make me touch myself at night.

[Vr_]

http://www.justdrums.net/peart/peart16.jpg

neil peart

[RavenndudE]

unorthodox option:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drum4/guestlove5.jpg
is that the drummer from the roots?

[saut]

Holy shit. No one has mentioned Danny Carey from Tool yet? He definitly has to be one of the most creative drummers of recent times, as well as one of the most technically skilled.

I'm still in shock no one mentioned him after 40+ posts in this thread, especially with all the Tool fans I am aware of here. Damn!

[Stinkfist]

i couldnt say Danny Carey, because theyd expect me to say that! ha i juked you guys!

-stink

[Risingson]

I just listened to a whole CD of Cryptopsy. You really dont know a thing about percussion if you actually think that drummer is more talented then a jazz drummer say, John Blackwell. The ONLY category Flo would win is stamina. No contests, he really isn't that great.

My opinion anyways, after playing drums for roughly 10 years.

[Chivas]

1991 Santa Clara Vanguard
and pretty much the whole list above plus Tim Alexander. Primus was the first band that made me want to start playing drums, Rush was second, then the Who, Led Zep and currently Tool keep me inspired. And another odd choice would be Ginger Fish from Marilyn Manson's band, he has some pretty kick ass beats hiding behind that freakish appearance.