Shutdown 2 Work in Progress pictures now up

[Defrag]

http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/thumbs/ff_shutdown2_1.jpg

http://www.fortress-forever.com/?a=media

Check out what Kerm has done for this cheese classic. I think it looks rather nice ;)

[sparkz]

Uh yea...

I need a fucking towel. Thanks Defrag.

[X^V]

Completely awsome, great job

[Kaptain Kracker]

looks amazing, keep it up

[Thrash]

I'd really kind of like to see the switch flush against the left wall and have the right side stairs turned into what they currently are, half stairs.

But I'm a picky-change-hating-bitch, so maybe not?

Edit: I had just woke up, I took a closer look at the switch, it's fine. My preference on the stairs stands.

[miyagi]

good stuff

[Bad Luck]

You better put something cool outside the window on 2mesa3 too, my suggestion is a picture of a hot naked girl fingering herself with jizz in her eyes.

[GriffiN^]

lol that looks awesome.. ;D

[Thursday]

O man there is no way my computer (mostly video card) will run this. Really looks great though.

[HadeZ]

Awesome

[Unfor]

please get rid of those ugly wall textures in the yard! i remember those from TFC and I hated them! CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!

[wondy]

sickening

[alligator]

< Alligator > awsome job in sd2 :)
< Alligator > but it would be cool if u can change the stairs in the generator room into the same stairs in tfc O_o, "ramp"

[Unfor]

thank you for making sense

[Zslick]

Looks amazing.

Was looking at the battleelements pic ( http://www.fortress-forever.com/?a=media&id=ff_shutdown2_2 ) and I saw a hole - after you get over the fence and fall into that hole do you land at the bottom of the ramp?

[HadeZ]

are you serious? I'm pretty sure you cant fly over that fence ;)

[sparkz]

Looks amazing.

Was looking at the battleelements pic ( http://www.fortress-forever.com/?a=media&id=ff_shutdown2_2 ) and I saw a hole - after you get over the fence and fall into that hole do you land at the bottom of the ramp?

That would be dope.

Jesus I can't wait for this game.

[Jarek]

it looks awesome so far: one request though avoid stuff like the floor and wall details in bases for ETF, that makes the map hideous and over detailed

[Vv-]

looks great! are you gonna have health and ammo refresh when you cap the flag (grenades and that type of stuff)? cause that's one think i hate about the sd2 is that you don't get grenades after you cap.

[eXCeLL]

very nice

[Janus]

the screenshots look absolutely GORGEOUS. thank you guys so much for making me anticipate this game!

[Jackal_]

Keep it up guys, im very impressed by this.

[Ignatz]

everything you guys have done so far has been tight as hell

hit a home run with the player models, get the gameplay right, and this game will be a masterpiece

[Cobalt]

well come on sv code bib.c

[eXCeLL]

looking at the button pic.. will the generator behind the glass start to work or whatever when the lasers are deactivated or is it just for show? :O

[vitz]

omg, I think my ass just puckered from the excitement! OUTSTANDING WORK! :eek:

[MoonGuardian]

looking at the button pic.. will the generator behind the glass start to work or whatever when the lasers are deactivated or is it just for show? :O



Um, i doubt it, maybe if on openfire something like that, because the switch/button is more played by.


SHIT - i forgot about Calc Class

ill finish this post later.

[soul train]

Looks amazing.. good shit.

[Defrag]

The hole in the RR is just for show afaik -- you can't conc over / into it. :)

[Kool_Guy_RyanN]

looking good. and bl's comment should be up for consideration.

[MoonGuardian]

god damn calc class.

okay.

I like it, i like it alot. As for lighting INSIDE - flickering lights possible? not often, but the sort of lights go out once in awhile.


and maybe spruce up that plank hallway, its rather.... BLAH.

[Exe]

You guys are freakin' amazing !! NICE work on that map thusfar !!

[krystalfist]

It looks great... but I hate that map.

I play O... so, um, ya.

[Unfor]

can we call it shutdown instead of shutdown2?

[Bad Luck]

Is there a list of maps ya'll are redoing? You keep saying "the classics" will be remade, but there's a lot of classics. Are you doing as much as you can, or is there a set list you have to remake, and if there is a list can we see it?

[BoSlim]

looking good, a couple things I like are the worn path where people would run more often, and the stains at the top of the catwalk on the battlements, also the button room glass to the generator outside is sweet.

One other thought about the hole above the top of the roof, maybe make the fence an electric fence and when security is down you will be able to go through a door on the fence that makes a noise when opening and shutting. When security is up the fence will shock and injure you about 1/8th of your health/armor every second you touch it. Shutdown2 is already a bit defensive thats why it gets played 8v8 a lot, so maybe this slight advantage for the O at times will help even things out a bit.

[Darkdefender]

that looks sweet, just woundering if i need to buy hl2 to make fortress forever work? keep up the good work

[Thrash]

Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh, remake and fix Cj2

[AtomicJim]

Beautiful.

[eXCeLL]

that looks sweet, just woundering if i need to buy hl2 to make fortress forever work? keep up the good work

yeah its a mod for hl2 :/

and someone said something about the plank hallway, am i missing something?

[Acharne]

Absolutely sex-a-rific.

I always thought it would be neat if, when the generator was turned off, the main lights would flicker out and then some emergency lights would come on. That would it would be darker, but still lit up... There's no real gameplay advantage, I just think it would be neat:P

P.S. I don't actually expect that to be implemented, as I doubt it would be cool for more than one or two times, then everyone, including myself, would tire of it.

[-Dirby-]

can we call it shutdown instead of shutdown2?

was there even an original shutdown map? why the 2?

[innes]

beautiful work on the map, so much detail

[billdoor]

Just curious, was the cheese contacted about this revision? Not that it really matters, but I'm curious if he still around or what not.

Looks great, that switch room reminds me of the good things to be found in doom3.

I don't think defrag was able to find him. All the contact info on his page was outdated IIRC.

[Noremorse]

was there even an original shutdown map? why the 2?

shutdown_l?

[16Valve]

As long as you're unable to hold elevators and the map isn't a total defensive suckfest like it was before, all's great with remakes.
Make 'em as pretty as you want.

Since I mentioned it, what about elevators? Will we still have to implement rules regarding them or is there a way with the new "system" to keep that kind of issue from reocurring?

[rebo]

Thats an interesting question, in europe holding elevators up is a perfectly valid tactic. Peronally i think the map plays better when allowing holding of elevators 8v8.

[[TDA]Jiggles]

Just make it so elevators can't be "held" up. It would end a lot of debate, and the map would still play just fine.

[marden]

was there even an original shutdown map? why the 2?
wasn't that long ago that I played it in some league.
http://www.my-ip.ca/maps/shutdown.zip

can't wait to play this shutdown. Nice work on it guys.

[16Valve]

Jiggles']Just make it so elevators can't be "held" up. It would end a lot of debate, and the map would still play just fine.

While they're at it, why not make it impossible to shoot each other in the midfield.
Now THERE'S an end to debate, hehe.



And just so there's no misunderstanding, I'm kidding.

Or even better yet. A cvar that kicks you automatically if you whine about it.

[schtoofa]

Is there a list of maps ya'll are redoing? You keep saying "the classics" will be remade, but there's a lot of classics. Are you doing as much as you can, or is there a set list you have to remake, and if there is a list can we see it?

We're going to release a list of maps that will "for sure" be included in our release. That announcement will be coming pretty soon...

[aXeman]

schtoofa makes my shorts tingle.

Good work guys.

[[TDA]Jiggles]

Or even better yet. A cvar that kicks you automatically if you whine about it.

How about they add a text chat filter that automatically quits the game if the user types "lolz!"

[[TDA]Jiggles]

We're going to release a list of maps that will "for sure" be included in our release. That announcement will be coming pretty soon...

If you don't include Scrummage I will crash the interweb!

[MrSparkle]

Jiggles']If you don't include Scrummage I will crash the interweb!
That would piss Al Gore off, big time. We don't want that to happen do we?

(/me drools over sexy remake of sd2)

[Necromancer]

Jiggles']If you don't include Scrummage I will crash the interweb!

looks like were going to ahve to get Virus to do it!

+)

[Magus]

People don't know there is an original shutdown?

*smacks head*

[Bad Luck]

Whys there a 2mesa3 WHERES THE FIRST 2 GUYS

[primer]

http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/ff_shutdown2_2.jpg


tree growing on the roof? :confused: what about roots, lol

[Bad Luck]

since theres power lines, can you make it so you can permanently deactivate security by shooting the power lines

[Unfor]

can you make it so that whenever bl posts it automatically deletes it

[Bad Luck]

can you make it so that whenever bl posts it automatically deletes it


You dream of being me.

Note: incase you're an idiot like unfor, a good 70% of my suggestions are not to be taken seriously.

[LunaticWithCandy]

Just thought I'd make mention that TFCmaster remade Tiger for CS:S, you maybe contact him and find out if he plans to revise it for FF?

http://www.tfcmaster.net/mapprojects/de_tiger_soc.html

[|RES|arod]

maps like 2mesa3 don't need to be included in the official release because it would detract(is that a word?) new gamers. Any map where the only real way to get to the flag is by concing would not be new player friendly.

[~A~]

looks like were going to ahve to get Virus to do it!

+)


yeah you wish virus would do anything, although i do miss monkeymadness and raw_r. gj on sd2, i also got to play Run from BH, dont know if hes working for you, but it was also nice

[Mulchman MM]

For the elevator discussion above, if you don't want to be able to hold up the elevator, make it a func_train... (the mapper would have to do this)

[sparkz]

Is mulch doing any maps for FF? Or are ya just on as a programmer?

[Cides]

while i read like 4 post, i'd like for most suggestions to be ignored(as im sure most are) i wanna play an entirely new game, with the same 'funness' and feeling that TFC brought.

Just for everyone's reference when I say entirely new game, I don't mean change the aspect, I want the same game but bring the life back.

[Cides]

While on the topic, I'd would like to see the person in my sig incorperated into the game in some way. Thankyou.

[sev]

Is he doing some sort of water acrobatics performance?

[Cides]

To be honest, I have no idea. I found it while searching for some pictures of someone in c^, I can't remember who, my guess would be warlord.

[Verty]

If you look closely, he's being shot by the lil kid in the background...

On topic, I think we can trust those guys, they're TFC veterans and I know that they'll do what's best for the game, meaning that they will choose what parts of the gameplay to change and to stay, same with maps and stuff. For the work so far, I'm speechless and keep wishing the mod would come out tomorrow or something :(

Awesome job guys, keep it up!

[Tone-Loc]

Map looks awesome, hope I can get a rig built fast enough in order to enjoy it you guys!

On a side note, do we need to keep the map revision names from TFC with FF? Can't we just start over and start calling maps by just Shutdown, or 2Mesa, or Crossover, or Bases... because by the time future revisions are made, it will look like you are on the 4th or 5th revision of a map for FF, rather than it's life since TFC inception. Maybe with maps with dates in them, like Oppose2k1, could be updated and realased in FF with 2k5 instead, that would be OK, but it just gives a bad perception IMO, regardless of how small, and how uninformed about TFC history a person may be...

Just a little something to think about.

[Bad Luck]

If you look closely, he's being shot by the lil kid in the background...!

What are you talking about, the big black lady knocked the fuck out of him.

[sev]

Why does the person on the far left look like they are holding someone's intestines WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT PICTURE

[billdoor]

Map looks awesome, hope I can get a rig built fast enough in order to enjoy it you guys!

On a side note, do we need to keep the map revision names from TFC with FF? Can't we just start over and start calling maps by just Shutdown, or 2Mesa, or Crossover, or Bases... because by the time future revisions are made, it will look like you are on the 4th or 5th revision of a map for FF, rather than it's life since TFC inception. Maybe with maps with dates in them, like Oppose2k1, could be updated and realased in FF with 2k5 instead, that would be OK, but it just gives a bad perception IMO, regardless of how small, and how uninformed about TFC history a person may be...

Just a little something to think about.

I think there is a big difference in that shutdown2 is a totally different map from shutdown, whereas with bases, 2fort5 etc. the revision names just represent updated versions of the same map. It's up to defrag, but we will probably drop the revision names for our initial map releases but keep the numbers that identify actual different maps, such as shutdown2, stowaway2, etc.

[vitz]

What are you talking about, the big black lady knocked the fuck out of him.


^^^ You are right on the money. No doubt he was sassing her about not doing girl chores like washing clothes and he got a five-knuckle backhand right in his grill.

[.:glorifiednG:.]

I think the original was just called "Shutdown" i think i saw it on some rotations on servers...

Fantastic Job guys. Now i have a reason to look forward to purchasing HL2.

in this order:

More RAM
New Video Card
HL2
D/L FF mod!

[pos]

do you think conc maps and such will follow FF?

[Dospac]

Conc maps will be taken to all new heights with FF. :)

[[TFCC]SOUNDMAN]

Very nice work you guys. I drool everytime I see the possibilities that this could entail. As for the naming thing, would you want to do a ff_shutdown, ff_2fort, ff_etc....Or is that to ETF like. I have no clue, just a suggestion I guess.

[Flare]

i'd prefer a de_shutdown2 and cs_2fort myself

[BoSlim]

I think people know what game their playing, and theres no need for the ff_shutdown2, it just makes it more annoying to type. Also, if Shutdown_l is going to be remade, then why not just keep shutdown2 named shutdown2 in ff.

also, nobody liked the electric fence up top idea that goes down with security so you can get in roof only when sec is down?

[Hudson]

Dam you fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!! This Mod is the only reason i havent sold my computer and every time I think i am ready to do so.. i see something else that just makes me want to wait and play!!!



ps


Keep up the good work

[Gorilla]

looks great but have you guys tried playing the maps with the new engine? will the maps weve grown to love still play the same? either way it looks gorgeous.

[aXeman]

http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/ff_shutdown2_2.jpg


tree growing on the roof? :confused: what about roots, lol


http://www.paleoflorida.com/hiking_pics/hike-rock%20mountain%20tree.JPG

[Cobalt]

must be Axe's rock he lives under