Why I Hate Live 8

[Ignatz]

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/live8/story.geldof.jpg
just fucking look at this yob.
"...we can stop people dying live on our screens every night on CNN if we really solve this."
Shut the fuck up, retard. Turn off the fucking TV, take your 30 million pounds, and go help people starving to death right down the road from your country estate if you're such a goddamn bleeding heart.

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mccartney%20%20u2%20reform%20sgt%20peppers%20lonel y%20hearts%20club%20band

and while you're at it, tell that ancient hag Paul McCartney and fucking idiot Bono to take off the stupid paisley band-leader outfits and shut the fuck up. Even Michael Jackson left that shit alone 15 years ago.

this whole thing is starting to piss me off. all these washed up pieces of shit putting on what amounts to a publicity concert for G8 nation leaders, so they can pretend they give a fuck about Africa or anything that happens there that doesn't make them money. So, we're gonna send over $20 billion to Africa, huh? you think that will solve all their problems and no one will ever starve there again? How fucking stupid can you be?

And you know what else? I remember Live Aid, it was 1985, I was 17, and I remember watching the concert with some friends, it was pretty cool... and then Joan Baez gets up there, and says, "Congratulations, This is your Woodstock." Well, you know what even when I was 17, I was smarter than that, we didn't want or need a Woodstock, 1969 was THIRTY FIVE fucking years ago, why don't all you old worn out dirty fucking hippies get over it already and stop trying to recreate the acid-fueled magic.

I hope you all will get behind me here and realize what an absolute sore on the ass of the world this alleged "huge event" is.

[Thrash]

Right..

You tell me the harm there is in it and I'll join right up on your bandwagon. So far I see nothing but a concert raising money, and publicity for it. And you're angry about it.. :confused:

[V-macros]

In my opinion, if they're so enlightened as to how many children can be saved with a certain amount of money; if they're so sure that these children will be saved; if they're certain that by giving this $, things will somehow change over there; and if they're so conscious of these things that they will plead with entire nations to give their $ over [you know, that African children really do mean so much to them]: why don't all these celebrities start by not buying Porsches and Gucci suits, and giving all of their money first?

I hate seeing Brad Pitt tell me to give money, dressed up in Armani. If I was as convinced as they are, and it meant as much to me as they want us to believe it means to them, I'd be giving almost all of my money away. Every dollar counts, right celebs?

[Ignatz]

Right..

You tell me the harm there is in it and I'll join right up on your bandwagon. So far I see nothing but a concert raising money, and publicity for it. And you're angry about it.. :confused:
eh, whatever, i'm not out in the streets protesting about it, just felt like a good rant. i do think it's hypocritical though when all these guys are richer than hell, especially Bob Geldof who never did anything really good in his career. and anything that gets Paul McCartney and U2 on a stage in satin bandleader outfits deserves a swift kick in the nuts.

[Zogo]

pink floyd isn't going to play "time" and "any colour you like"

instead "wish you were here" for the BILLIONTH TIME.

this is a travesty.

[Magus]

im the only one of my friends not going, i'd rather avoid the clusterfuck of drunken ignorance that will be philly, I'm going out into the 'burbs.

coldplay almost makes me wish i were going, but there aren't enough other acts that I want to see.

[klob-]

i was supposed to go but couldnt get off work :( i enjoy being one of those ignorant drunks :)

[vashts80]

Screw MTV and VH1, those douches cut Pink Floyd off to go to commercial.

[Nuggs|*1]

fuck u all live8 was fucking insane

will smith, kanye, linkin + jayz, def leapord and the absolut crazinesswas unbelivable

[VeeKaChu]

While I personally have no beef with "good intentions", here's a nice essay that explains pretty succinctly why it won't work (http://slate.msn.com/id/2121685/?nav=fo).

To understand what bad advice this is, one has only to consider Geldof's previous endeavor, Live Aid, which raised $100 million for relief of the Ethiopian famine in 1985. It's an open question whether Live Aid did more harm or good. As David Rieff explains in the British magazine Prospect, organizations involved in delivering relief became complicit in the Ethiopian government's Stalinist program of forced agricultural collectivization and relocation, which helped create the disaster. Today, Ethiopia is significantly poorer than it was 20 years ago, and, as David Plotz explained in this 2003 dispatch, perpetually dependent on charity. This is, sadly, the story of aid to sub-Saharan Africa as a whole. While the developed world has contributed more than $500 billion over the last 40 years, Africans have continued to fall farther behind.

[Nuggs|*1]

I'm an idiot, and for some retarded reason I missed that this forum is non-flammable.

[Zogo]

pink floyd was cool. just wish they blocked them from exiting the stage and made them play for an hour or two.

[Milosenpotion]

fucking put commercials in the middle of one of my fav solos :-/

[Magus]

I'm glad I didn't go, really there were no performers I wanted to see, and I'm not one to go to things just to be able to say I was there... cause I really don't give a damn :)

[Scorcher]

Right..

You tell me the harm there is in it and I'll join right up on your bandwagon. So far I see nothing but a concert raising money, and publicity for it. And you're angry about it.. :confused:

All it does is raise awareness, no money that I know of. I have the same problems with it as Macros and Veekachu do. It's just furthering Africa's dependence on the western world. There will be a day when we cannot support Africa and they will be screwed when that day comes. Giving them food and medicine will stave off some famine and disease for a while. The population will continue to rise and Africa will grow more and more dependent on the western nations. There needs to be something done besides sending food, medicine, and money(much of it goes to the corrupt governments).

[hate]

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/live8/story.geldof.jpg
just fucking look at this yob.

Shut the fuck up, retard. Turn off the fucking TV, take your 30 million pounds, and go help people starving to death right down the road from your country estate if you're such a goddamn bleeding heart.

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mccartney%20%20u2%20reform%20sgt%20peppers%20lonel y%20hearts%20club%20band

and while you're at it, tell that ancient hag Paul McCartney and fucking idiot Bono to take off the stupid paisley band-leader outfits and shut the fuck up. Even Michael Jackson left that shit alone 15 years ago.

this whole thing is starting to piss me off. all these washed up pieces of shit putting on what amounts to a publicity concert for G8 nation leaders, so they can pretend they give a fuck about Africa or anything that happens there that doesn't make them money. So, we're gonna send over $20 billion to Africa, huh? you think that will solve all their problems and no one will ever starve there again? How fucking stupid can you be?

And you know what else? I remember Live Aid, it was 1985, I was 17, and I remember watching the concert with some friends, it was pretty cool... and then Joan Baez gets up there, and says, "Congratulations, This is your Woodstock." Well, you know what even when I was 17, I was smarter than that, we didn't want or need a Woodstock, 1969 was THIRTY FIVE fucking years ago, why don't all you old worn out dirty fucking hippies get over it already and stop trying to recreate the acid-fueled magic.

I hope you all will get behind me here and realize what an absolute sore on the ass of the world this alleged "huge event" is.


So what are you doing about it?

[Moniker]

Right..

You tell me the harm there is in it and I'll join right up on your bandwagon. So far I see nothing but a concert raising money, and publicity for it. And you're angry about it.. :confused: I felt compelled to also reply to this ignorance...

The problem with sub-saharan Africa (especially Western Africa) is deeper than most people in the West can comprehend. You've got to understand that when you have so many people in such a small, dense area, diseases will of course spread like crazy. For every problem you solve, 10 more spring up in its place. So you save 50,000 lives, but while you were doing it 500,000 more people got infected.

Raising this paltry sum of money is going to fix absolutely nothing. Sure you can feed the poor children of Africa for a month. How about next month? How about next year, when there's millions more than last year? How about a decade from now? Think about it, the lives that are saved today will most likely go on to have multiple offspring that contributes even more to the problem.

Sometimes the only way to contain a forest fire is to let it burn out. But apparently the world is content with fighting 5% of the fire whilst the other 95% rages out of control and spreads everywhere.

[ReCoN]

i dont care what you say about live8, pink floyd fucking rocked my world

[sparkz]

I felt compelled to also reply to this ignorance...

The problem with sub-saharan Africa (especially Western Africa) is deeper than most people in the West can comprehend. You've got to understand that when you have so many people in such a small, dense area, diseases will of course spread like crazy. For every problem you solve, 10 more spring up in its place. So you save 50,000 lives, but while you were doing it 500,000 more people got infected.

Raising this paltry sum of money is going to fix absolutely nothing. Sure you can feed the poor children of Africa for a month. How about next month? How about next year, when there's millions more than last year? How about a decade from now? Think about it, the lives that are saved today will most likely go on to have multiple offspring that contributes even more to the problem.

Sometimes the only way to contain a forest fire is to let it burn out. But apparently the world is content with fighting 5% of the fire whilst the other 95% rages out of control and spreads everywhere.

I wrote a paper that one of my professors refused to grade regarding Africa. It was half-satire, but it covered many very real issues. I think it may have been the title that scared him off.

It was called "A Modest Proposal: The Complete and Utter Destruction of Continental Africa and All of It's Inhabitants."

Just for jollies, I had two other professors look at it, and they both said they would have given me an A. It was original, and if I may say so myself, quite good. Maybe I'll upload it one day for all to see. Shrug.

[Scorcher]

I wrote a paper that one of my professors refused to grade regarding Africa. It was half-satire, but it covered many very real issues. I think it may have been the title that scared him off.

It was called "A Modest Proposal: The Complete and Utter Destruction of Continental Africa and All of It's Inhabitants."

Just for jollies, I had two other professors look at it, and they both said they would have given me an A. It was original, and if I may say so myself, quite good. Maybe I'll upload it one day for all to see. Shrug.

i'd like to read it

[GriffiN^]

Same.

Also, did anyone else think that Bob Geldof could have passed for Denethor (return of the king) by how he looked in this interview?

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/live8/story.geldof.jpg

That shot doesn't really do it justice. During the interview itself it looked almost exactly like him.

[Thrash]

i'd like to read it
.

[Hellz-Angel01]

In my opinion, if they're so enlightened as to how many children can be saved with a certain amount of money; if they're so sure that these children will be saved; if they're certain that by giving this $, things will somehow change over there; and if they're so conscious of these things that they will plead with entire nations to give their $ over [you know, that African children really do mean so much to them]: why don't all these celebrities start by not buying Porsches and Gucci suits, and giving all of their money first?

I hate seeing Brad Pitt tell me to give money, dressed up in Armani. If I was as convinced as they are, and it meant as much to me as they want us to believe it means to them, I'd be giving almost all of my money away. Every dollar counts, right celebs?

Don't rag on celebrities that are trying to help the situation, at least they're doing something. Even if you think their ideas won't help the problem at least they're doing something. Celebrities have no obligation to give anything back, just like the rest of us. Some have the decency to endorse large projects because people recognize their name and might be persuaded to give some money.

[Anonym]

Does that mean we should applaud a person punching an unwanted brick wall because they're "doing something"? Bloody knuckles are somehow better than unblemished knuckles because some action was involved? Shouldn't we rather show that person a better option for removing the wall? Action doesn't always engender a good result. Sometimes it just wastes energy.

Live 8 does little to stop poverty and/or hunger. Corruption in the leaders of Africa see to that. Until a new government can be set up in Africa, or the current administration compelled to change its methods, Africa will continue to be a hungry, poverty-stricken country.

[Magus]

rofl africa is quite a hungry, poverty-stricken country, isn't it. Who is the leader of this country?

[Scorcher]

Does that mean we should applaud a person punching an unwanted brick wall because they're "doing something"? Bloody knuckles are somehow better than unblemished knuckles because some action was involved? Shouldn't we rather show that person a better option for removing the wall? Action doesn't always engender a good result. Sometimes it just wastes energy.

Live 8 does little to stop poverty and/or hunger. Corruption in the leaders of Africa see to that. Until a new government can be set up in Africa, or the current administration compelled to change its methods, Africa will continue to be a hungry, poverty-stricken country.

continent =)

edit: damn you magus!

[Magus]

he shoots he scores

[Anonym]

Bah, yes. Continent.

[Hellz-Angel01]

well theres not really any clear answer on what to do, and although it may seem like punching a brick wall, the money does help the immediate needs of the country (or should anyways, I'm not that well versed in the corruption of the African government systems)... long-term I agree it won't do much to solve the problem, but it's a start.

[Milosenpotion]

lol still with the "country"

[Anonym]

Yes, I know, it was dumb of me. I'm so Americanized that I keep forgetting that the other land masses on Earth don't consider themselves one country. That and the constant referral to "Africa" and not individual countries in need makes me think of the entire continent as a country. It's being treated as such, so I wrote without thinking the term throughly.

[Moniker]

well theres not really any clear answer on what to do, and although it may seem like punching a brick wall, the money does help the immediate needs of the country (or should anyways, I'm not that well versed in the corruption of the African government systems)... long-term I agree it won't do much to solve the problem, but it's a start. It's not even a start, it's just a continuation of a money pit. Giving aid to Africa is like paying some your broke, bankrupt cousin's electric bill for a month. Sure he gets to watch TV for another 30 days but next time he'll be in the same exact situation and you'll just be poorer (although you felt good about yourself for a couple of hours).

[DISCOANI]

bob geldoff is the man, its so funny to see him play Pink in The Wall. Isnt that awesome how a man who was Knighted played the lead character in a rock movie from the 80's!

[Thrash]

Yeah. This wasn't a month old or anything.

[Magus]

disc's obsession with floyd must be halted somehow.

[DISCOANI]

sorry i searched pink floyd, and had to comment

edit: lol im so obsessed, its not even funny. like no joke

[NaTuRaL_KiLLA]

I wrote a paper that one of my professors refused to grade regarding Africa. It was half-satire, but it covered many very real issues. I think it may have been the title that scared him off.

It was called "A Modest Proposal: The Complete and Utter Destruction of Continental Africa and All of It's Inhabitants."

Just for jollies, I had two other professors look at it, and they both said they would have given me an A. It was original, and if I may say so myself, quite good. Maybe I'll upload it one day for all to see. Shrug.
I also, would like to read this essay.

[Fuzzy Texas Ranger]

i just posted here so i could see my name in the 'last poster' 5 times

i have no beef with live8, even though it sucks