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Delonge
April 3rd, 2006, 05:10 PM
i was just thinkin... if a lot of the guilds around would become more active, think it would bring some life into the community? ive noticed the last 6months or so that they say they are active.. do one set of opens, get their idlers back up a little bit then never seem to finish what they started.
sd-
April 3rd, 2006, 05:20 PM
The only guilds worth having are the ones that help people, not the ones that are "look at my tag, thats how you know I'm good!" kinda guilds
Cent
April 3rd, 2006, 05:28 PM
awhile ago ^Gx was awesome until chaos brought it back into a gay scout guild
Jimyd
April 3rd, 2006, 05:44 PM
Theres GUILDwars. :rolleyes:
decap
April 3rd, 2006, 07:11 PM
fuck dre and others for bringing back qe. fuck them
hate
April 3rd, 2006, 07:16 PM
^Gx brings back some good mems
tailz
April 3rd, 2006, 07:53 PM
the only ones that appear to be active (meaning tryouts within the past week) are #-2L- [Living Legends -sol guiild] and #supremi [esploratori supremi -scout guild]. All bias aside.
Jimyd
April 3rd, 2006, 08:27 PM
rofl when im on phase4 for qe and have passed all the previous phases, you know theres something wrong.
rabidkevin
April 3rd, 2006, 08:55 PM
guilds are stupid never been in one never will
klob-
April 3rd, 2006, 09:28 PM
the only guild i would ever join would be e9
Cobalt
April 3rd, 2006, 11:12 PM
rofl when im on phase4 for qe and have passed all the previous phases, you know theres something wrong.
i doubt tfc allows enough characters in names for more guilds for you, jimyd.
Jimyd
April 4th, 2006, 10:53 AM
i got 3 characters left for my name, its qe or e9, lol z!
[GoW]HK
April 4th, 2006, 12:35 PM
originally weren't guilds 5v5 teams?
Sutterkane
April 4th, 2006, 03:27 PM
the only guild i would ever join would be e9
why would you want to join them?
half of the guild are dickfaces, not any good, or a combination of the two.
|HOP|Dre^BtU`pHd
April 4th, 2006, 05:30 PM
fuck dre and others for bringing back qe. fuck them
Aww still upset :(
Poor guy somebody quick console this man before he has a heart attack.
Strider brought back `qe dipshit get over it you elitist fuck.
Redneck
April 4th, 2006, 05:32 PM
`qe really shouldn't have been brought back.
Gogeta
April 4th, 2006, 06:25 PM
`qe really shouldn't have been brought back.
let alone ededdyfan somehow gets into it... for the longest time he thought bhopping was useless, till like a month ago.. he got a script,he bhops slower than walking... qe is pretty noob now...
tailz
April 4th, 2006, 06:47 PM
why would you want to join them?
half of the guild are dickfaces, not any good, or a combination of the two.
someone has a little animosity
DarthGreg
April 4th, 2006, 07:05 PM
DD is dead, ain't nobody getting in!
Not that anybody would want to, since we're mostly old semi-elitist pricks!
SoulEdge
April 4th, 2006, 07:13 PM
why would you want to join them?
half of the guild are dickfaces, not any good, or a combination of the two.
i think thats part of a inside joke he has with phan/sarcasm
Ricky`
April 4th, 2006, 07:38 PM
let alone ededdyfan somehow gets into it... for the longest time he thought bhopping was useless, till like a month ago.. he got a script,he bhops slower than walking... qe is pretty noob now...
e$ is too leet for me so is any other scout guild. And no shit ed is a nooobeh :)
Jarek
April 4th, 2006, 07:52 PM
tryouts are retarded for any guild, match demos are what matter
BlackThoughT
April 4th, 2006, 07:57 PM
let alone ededdyfan somehow gets into it... for the longest time he thought bhopping was useless, till like a month ago.. he got a script,he bhops slower than walking... qe is pretty noob now...
LOLZ OMG AIRSHOT!!! #BACONOWNZ!!1!1!!onE1!!
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 07:57 PM
hi guys
Diab|o
April 4th, 2006, 08:37 PM
#supremi is alive... `e$
Jimyd
April 4th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Not trying to boast about myself, but ed can't even bhop... he's pretty bad.
ReCoN
April 4th, 2006, 10:10 PM
well bK likes to take people who actually play spy, not people who enjoy playing it for 30 seconds a round to attempt to take out an sg. anyone who submits a demo to bK gets an evaluation and we usually take them in a mulch server and show some proper technique for knifing and whatnot. we dont take new members every month. we try to guide anyone who wants help in the right direction and eventually let them in when its obvious they play spy and worked to get better. needless to say we have some quality spies.
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 10:13 PM
well bK likes to take people who actually play spy, not people who enjoy playing it for 30 seconds a round to attempt to take out an sg. anyone who submits a demo to bK gets an evaluation and we usually take them in a mulch server and show some proper technique for knifing and whatnot. we dont take new members every month. we try to guide anyone who wants help in the right direction and eventually let them in when its obvious they play spy and worked to get better. needless to say we have some quality spies.
except you <3
ReCoN
April 4th, 2006, 10:14 PM
i know, its sad im the worst one. fuck. but iv gotten better since your sad departure :) <3
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 10:18 PM
i know, its sad im the worst one. fuck. but iv gotten better since your sad departure :) <3
I still dance circles around you. Admit it.
Cent
April 4th, 2006, 10:27 PM
cals probably the best one lol
dakine`
April 4th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Gx ftw!
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 10:38 PM
cals probably the best one lol
So technically, if I dance circles around Cal, and he's the best, therefore I should be admitted to the guild as Supreme High Commander of Jeruslaem
Cent
April 4th, 2006, 10:45 PM
unfy`shcj
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM
unfy`shcj
[SHCJ]unf`bK
Cent
April 4th, 2006, 10:51 PM
[SHCJ]unf`bK
can i join? :( we can tear shit up in plat by ourselves
unfy
April 4th, 2006, 11:31 PM
can i join? :( we can tear shit up in plat by ourselves
Join up yo!
We're too good for platinum, were competing in Nigerian Diamond
beast
April 5th, 2006, 03:27 AM
is stab still a part of #spy? hell i remember when silenthunter joined bk and i idled there all of the time because of him. good times.
nord
April 5th, 2006, 07:18 AM
the vol has been alot more active for a little over a month now, much thanks to geewhzz, he has some strange power in getting everyone else to not sit on our asses. :cool:
most of the active guilds post in The TFC Community forum, from what I've seen at least.
edit: thread starter, if you posted this in angst of not getting your peon tryout, you just got an invite last week, try waiting for a year+ like some of the members. . . :rolleyes:
FebreezE-BSU
April 5th, 2006, 07:27 AM
-BSU... nuff said.
yes i got in, during the dying days of TFC
yes it took me nine trys to get in
still the only guild that ever mattered to me.
we try to be active, but lets be honest theres not alot of demos out there, let alone good ones.
CSI_CrackBRain
April 5th, 2006, 07:43 AM
e9 will be making a come back to the land of the living very soon..... #e9 bitches.
Sid6.7
April 5th, 2006, 11:23 AM
i dont think guilds would do anything to bring life into the community, and there is not much that will. its a 6 year old game, the only way to get life brought back into it now is if you paid people to play it. . .
Azlan
April 5th, 2006, 01:03 PM
What poly said.
BSU's staying Inactive until FF or TF2 comes out and there are more demos worthy of wearing the tag. Right now there are very few, if any left.
SoulEdge
April 5th, 2006, 01:07 PM
u mean like gen?
Delonge
April 5th, 2006, 01:19 PM
the vol has been alot more active for a little over a month now, much thanks to geewhzz, he has some strange power in getting everyone else to not sit on our asses.
no its not in response to not getting the peon tryout. its guilds claiming they are active doing a set of opens then never following up. and i know waiting a week isnt a long time. believe me ive waited quite a while to get into some things.
Kastro
April 5th, 2006, 01:19 PM
i dont think guilds would do anything to bring life into the community, and there is not much that will. its a 6 year old game, the only way to get life brought back into it now is if you paid people to play it. . .
i think you're wrong, and attitudes like this is what is not helping the game at all. back when tfc was at its peak its because people cared about the game and the community and enjoyed doing things. there's obviously still a good amount of people that play (although the community faces have changed tremendously) and if people came back (or stepped up for that matter) who KNOW how to breathe life into the game then it would pick up again. the problem is that today's players are lazy and have no sense for the community, so seeing people like Direhit who are willing to sit there and recode this site and put so much time and effort into adding new options and such really lets me know that there are still some people out there who care and the game can be recessitated if enough people tried, not just sat there and said "it wont work the game is dead" and shot down those who ARE trying to make it fun and lively again.
Cent
April 5th, 2006, 01:29 PM
no its not in response to not getting the peon tryout. its guilds claiming they are active doing a set of opens then never following up. and i know waiting a week isnt a long time. believe me ive waited quite a while to get into some things.
just 2 days ago they did tryouts, they let in new members and are doing opens?
and halo also mentioned "for about a month"
Sutterkane
April 5th, 2006, 02:08 PM
e9 will be making a come back to the land of the living very soon..... #e9 bitches.
e9 will never be anything again until it adds the rulemaker
dos
April 5th, 2006, 02:14 PM
i like guilds.
Kool_Guy_RyanN
April 5th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Guilds made a huge difference to me in my TFC experience.
During my `DD tenure, we would idle on irc and joke around all day/night. Mulch together at 2am and whatever else.
Later on, when i took Vol over and we were active. I cant remember a weekday (mond-thurs) that wus, br, nig, and myself were not running some kind of Vol 4v4.
I would of not had these same experiences / relationships if i was only in a clan.
Guilds are less and less based on the bonds and relationships amongst its members these days. You used to just join a guild and you were there for life. (DD, OD, XD, VD, Vol, Ni, Nfection, BSU, etc..) They were members for YEARS not months.
Guilds provide a way of networking within the TFC community as well.
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Alas, I think that if a strong core group of guilds were still existent it would benefit the community greatly.
sExAh
April 6th, 2006, 10:57 PM
anyone know a guild willing enough to train a n00b like me. I cant conc aim or air shot for shit.
beast
April 6th, 2006, 11:04 PM
no one likes "n00b"s
sExAh
April 6th, 2006, 11:28 PM
:(
saa
April 7th, 2006, 12:25 AM
i'll appologize to anyone who wanted a shot at -A- when kt made the post saying he was bringing it active again. i don't think i've seen him in the channel since that post, actually ^___^ alas we are as inactive again as we have been since 1938 and i would direct anyone interested in the medic guild scene towards #thevol or #mach3
i wouldn't mind training anyone who asked, time permitted. saa-A- in #ascension
Ultima
April 8th, 2006, 10:05 PM
I'd keep Ni active but it's kind of pointless. It was at its peek a few years ago when everybody in the guild still played..now the only active players are; ultima blink glacier kaww havok omega nefarious and stridex..and out of those players blink doesn't really play medic anymore plus he just came back, havok plays mainly defense for ae and nefarious mainly plays soldier for ae. atrocity broken hydro giglio reen botch nox cornpops fainraven forgotten gibber paragon rev umpa nam dk Mike are all either retired/inactive as hell. It's cool to see that -XD is going to be active again, although not everyone in the guild is neccesarily a top soldier anymore. Plus look at the list of "The Legendary." There's about 25 soldiers on there that dominated during their time that don't play anymore. I guess making a new guild and keeping it active would be cool, but for any of these old guilds it's just pointless because you wont get many active members anymore from when the guild was at its peek.
killu`
April 8th, 2006, 10:14 PM
I'd keep Ni active but it's kind of pointless. It was at its peek a few years ago when everybody in the guild still played..now the only active players are; ultima blink glacier kaww havok omega nefarious and stridex..and out of those players blink doesn't really play medic anymore plus he just came back, havok plays mainly defense for ae and nefarious mainly plays soldier for ae. atrocity broken hydro giglio reen botch nox cornpops fainraven forgotten gibber paragon rev umpa nam dk Mike are all either retired/inactive as hell. It's cool to see that -XD is going to be active again, although not everyone in the guild is neccesarily a top soldier anymore. Plus look at the list of "The Legendary." There's about 25 soldiers on there that dominated during their time that don't play anymore. I guess making a new guild and keeping it active would be cool, but for any of these old guilds it's just pointless because you wont get many active members anymore from when the guild was at its peek.
not to mention TFC is a 7 year old game all the top members are already established and have belonged to the same guilds for years. There's very few people left good enough to get in a top guild that aren't already in one.
DarthGreg
April 8th, 2006, 10:19 PM
i think you're wrong, and attitudes like this is what is not helping the game at all. back when tfc was at its peak its because people cared about the game and the community and enjoyed doing things. there's obviously still a good amount of people that play (although the community faces have changed tremendously) and if people came back (or stepped up for that matter) who KNOW how to breathe life into the game then it would pick up again. the problem is that today's players are lazy and have no sense for the community, so seeing people like Direhit who are willing to sit there and recode this site and put so much time and effort into adding new options and such really lets me know that there are still some people out there who care and the game can be recessitated if enough people tried, not just sat there and said "it wont work the game is dead" and shot down those who ARE trying to make it fun and lively again.
Agree with this man.
DarthGreg
April 8th, 2006, 10:21 PM
not to mention TFC is a 7 year old game all the top members are already established and have belonged to the same guilds for years. There's very few people left good enough to get in a top guild that aren't already in one.
The community is kinda weird now, to be honest. It used to be that most of the good players were in guilds, but as the game has aged there are plenty of players that simply outplay old hangers-on like me that aren't in reputable guilds, because most of these well-known guilds formed when the game was young. I expect this to change once FF comes out.
unfy
April 8th, 2006, 10:48 PM
I'd keep Ni active but it's kind of pointless. It was at its peek a few years ago when everybody in the guild still played..now the only active players are; ultima blink glacier kaww havok omega nefarious and stridex..and out of those players blink doesn't really play medic anymore plus he just came back, havok plays mainly defense for ae and nefarious mainly plays soldier for ae. atrocity broken hydro giglio reen botch nox cornpops fainraven forgotten gibber paragon rev umpa nam dk Mike are all either retired/inactive as hell. It's cool to see that -XD is going to be active again, although not everyone in the guild is neccesarily a top soldier anymore. Plus look at the list of "The Legendary." There's about 25 soldiers on there that dominated during their time that don't play anymore. I guess making a new guild and keeping it active would be cool, but for any of these old guilds it's just pointless because you wont get many active members anymore from when the guild was at its peek.
great post Alex
KnuX
April 9th, 2006, 01:10 AM
I've been really busy with all sorts of good stuff outside of TFC the past few months and now things are starting to settle down and fall into place so I'm working on getting Keen somewhat active again. I still have a peon tryout to run then I'll prob work on doing peon tryouts a couple times a month if at all possible.
Geewhzz
April 9th, 2006, 03:39 AM
I'm really trying hard to keep #thevol active, and I will continue to do so, as I want to give back a little to the community.
I'm willing to play or teach anyone who wants help with something...all you gotta do is pm :x
sblend
April 10th, 2006, 10:10 PM
http://www.omegashift.net/reflex/roster.htm
Those were the days :[
Miss you apoc!!
tailz
April 10th, 2006, 10:33 PM
new XD = VD
unfy
April 10th, 2006, 10:38 PM
new XD = VD
orly?
saa
April 10th, 2006, 11:13 PM
new XD = VD
you lose, sir.
FlanK
April 11th, 2006, 03:21 AM
For the last few months Mach3 has had 2 tryouts every week and opens once every few weeks, along with 4v4's and a 2v2 tournament. we also are setting up a 4v4 tournament next month. different style though. We are here to bring the meaning active back to the guild/guilds. Since its recent activities we have welcomed a few new members. check it out #mach3 its easy to catch our attention if your interested, through opens, sending demos, 4v4's ect
#mach3
post-mortem
April 11th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Speaking from someone who is no longer aloud to play tfc, I think guilds did make a difference, atleast when I played the game. I mean from what i saw most of the time if you where wearing a good tag you where good at that class, and to make a guild, you had to work hard to earn the tag. It brought more to the game, but maybe now since from what I hear and see tfc is basically just a bunch of bullshit. So I guees guilds dont mean anything anymore.
broken
April 11th, 2006, 02:12 PM
I'd keep Ni active but it's kind of pointless. It was at its peek a few years ago when everybody in the guild still played..now the only active players are; ultima blink glacier kaww havok omega nefarious and stridex..and out of those players blink doesn't really play medic anymore plus he just came back, havok plays mainly defense for ae and nefarious mainly plays soldier for ae. atrocity broken hydro giglio reen botch nox cornpops fainraven forgotten gibber paragon rev umpa nam dk Mike are all either retired/inactive as hell. It's cool to see that -XD is going to be active again, although not everyone in the guild is neccesarily a top soldier anymore. Plus look at the list of "The Legendary." There's about 25 soldiers on there that dominated during their time that don't play anymore. I guess making a new guild and keeping it active would be cool, but for any of these old guilds it's just pointless because you wont get many active members anymore from when the guild was at its peek.
being in RoC doesnt mean im "retired/inactive as hell" asshole...i havent been inactive in years :)
tbh, the reason i stopped participating in Ni tryouts is because it seems all the people trying out are people ive never heard of. i dont particularly care to recruit aliased hackers, and that's all the players tfc seems to have left.
C!oud
April 11th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Has anyone here played Battlefield 2? It seems to me that guilds in TFC have become a lot like earning medals in BF2 in that they have become decorations for people's names; a sign of accomplishment and bragging rights. And really, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, however, it seems like the have become solely that. My thought is that there should be (and perhaps there are some that I don't know about) guilds that focus on teaching the game/class/skill that they specialize in. I am aware that guilds are willing to help people learn, but I was thinking it might be a good idea to establish a guild that focused on teaching people first; accomplishment would take the back seat.
Here's what I am thinking:
Creating a new guild whose intent is teaching and/or training people to really play this game. This would be a larger scale, mass effort that wouldn't focus on one specific skill, but would have people proficient and available to teach any skill, i.e., basic DMing, basic offense/defense, bhop, rjump, concing, conc aim, and more advanced versions of the aformentioned skills. In addition to this, a set of tests or something could be set up (agreed upon by the community at large) to assess people's progress and accomplishments that could be used as qualifications in tryouts/recruitments.
Here's what I think would be required (at minimum, probably more as I haven't thought everything out in entirety):
-Support from the TFC community as a whole: it won't work if no one supports it or gives it a chance
-Support from the "elite" and upper level players and guilds: We can't really have the blind leading the blind can we? Plus no one seems to be interested in a guild if they don't see an adaquate number of Ni^ -XD tags lol.
-People willing to actually put effort into making this happen.
-Probably more things I haven't thought of yet.
Here's some possible/potential (not guarenteed) benefits I can see resulting:
-an increase in the overall quality of play in TFC
-New people being brought into competitive TFC, and as a result an influx of clans
-A chance for more "unknown" players to get some recognition
-Potentially a new aspect to tryouts/recruitments
These are just some ideas I've been kicking around for a while, I really have no idea how popular or effective they'll really be, but I am willing to give this a try if others are. If anyone's interested maybe post below or find me at #tfc.gr
Sry for the long post lol.
Rand
April 11th, 2006, 07:53 PM
I gave up on guilds the moment that the original Rx was created, and its sister, RxE. I never got a look, whistle, or even a raised eyebrow for a mini engy guild made in a clan that I had hoped that I was an active part of. The main reason that I started being a jack(ass) of all classes, and got down thrown concs on dialup finally. (Well, and one of the reasons that I still laugh at players that run after run after run, blow they're HH conc try, thus wasting a conc, when they could have just run into the enemy base more effectively.)
Though I always admit that my 'skills' are not near whatever they might have used to be, one crossing paths with CB on a pub and him mentioned E9 piqued my interest in maybe trying out someday.
shaggy
April 11th, 2006, 08:22 PM
I disagree with you cloud. Not sure you've notice but this game is 7 years old. So my question to you is who will you be teaching? The majority of people still playing tfc today have an extense knowledge of the game. And for atleast me, if there is a trick I don't know by now, it's too late for me to care. Having a guild teaching new people techniques is only useful if there is a large new audience. On the other hand, top class guilds have always been a motivating factor for me. Not only do they give me something to strive for, but also playing against players in these top guilds helps me gage my skill level. So, I solute OD and XD for trying to make a come back. I believe top guilds aspire people to work harder at being better, and that's a good thing :)
C!oud
April 12th, 2006, 02:11 AM
No, I agree with you that having guilds of that caliber is a good thing, and it gives me something to strive for too, but I do think it would do good to have a guild that's intent is teaching. There are still pub servers with people who don't know how to hh conc and other things along those lines, and certainly there are plenty of people who still don't have good (or any) conc aim. Maybe a teaching guild doesn't need to be so fundamental as basic concing and dm'ing skills, but what about refining technique? You said yourself that the best way to gage your skill is to play with the top teir people, so why not have them help instruct and, for lack of a better word, mentor those who aren't plat yet? Maybe this doesn't have to be so formulaic as lessons or anything, but holding 2v2's with or against people who want to practice at a higher level of play would certainly be a start. Again, I'm not saying that the community needs this, it is only an idea, but I thought it was worth a suggestion, and I am interested in hearing what people think about it.
Jimyd
April 12th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Adopt A Player -AAP- ... was ran by atticus???? and pretty much me and hoopajoo for awhile.
We taught some bronze/copper people how to play better... and some of their friends that wanted to tryout TFC.
It was doing pretty good till i was the only active trainer left. Atticus didn't seem to care.
I'd be intrested in doing something like this again.
Oh ya i said copper/bronze because i can't rember which is higher than the other anymore. ROFL i'm not lying. :D
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