HWG vs Solider

[(Kool-Aid)golfisfun]

What is the best way for me who plays the HWG 90% of the time to take down a Solider?

[relyt]

shoot him and dont get shot

[Telos]

mirvs and crowbar

[wads]

if your aim is near perfect at close range a soldier cant kill you ever. unless you die to a nade on the ground after the soldier dies

[Deca-_x]

Navigate your crosshair to his hitbox, which is usually indicated by the soldier model you're using.

Now, press down fire and attempt to keep your crosshair on his hitbox, and conversely, his model, until he pretends to lie down.

That is the death animation, but be sure to check the upper right corner of your screen to make sure that the kill registered. Good job, you know how to kill a soldier!

[|RES|arod]

Try to time his rockets and jump over each one so that they wont hurt as much (all while aiming of course).

[Scorcher]

Constant jumping

[ooz]

alias +Kill_Solly "+attack; +jump; +gren1; +gren2; -jump; throwgren; saveme; fov 999; say "LOL I PWNZ YOU"
alias -Kill_Solly
bind X "+Kill_Solly"

[jabroni]

shotty nade for me since i cant track for shit

[Wheaties[TCK]]

I find that jumping makes it harder to keep track onto a soldier. So when I see a soldier close range, I just don't jump. You should be able to kill a soldier close range pretty fast.

[Milosenpotion]

Only newbie soldiers aim at the feet of HWs, I aim at the head

[bowser]

i AC and sometimes if i'm low i'll ac real quick, pull out my shotty do some quick bhop/dodging and shotty the guy while i have a nade primed... try different shit, i certainly don't play any class like anyone else.

[PSYCOSACK]

yeah a sol should die really fast, if they jump they will get stopped and they dont have enough speed to dodge so just aim at his chest and he will die.
but if you are an hw and your 1v1 aggainst a soldier will full health and 4 rockets you should die. Probably shouldent jump or duck much, just strafe 1 way and shoot.
and dont shotty a soldier close range, thats pointless, the ac should own them.

[Ignatz]

Use clear explosion sprites

[doc]

Have a medic stand behind and heal you then brag over your kill!! :D

[(Kool-Aid)golfisfun]

anyone with a rocket seems to own me that or all the nade spaming but i was playing a guy from the ts clan and he was just owning me with his rockets i could kill him if it was just me and him but if he hit me with one rocket in the air by the time i would land he would be behind me and kill me

[Frag]

1. switch to shotty and nades for him. dodge rockets.
2. after he shot all 4 rockets, use ac.

[di.oof]

You said "by the time I land he's behind me" which implies you aren't following him with your aim as you are airborne. Keep firing your AC while in midair and keep your aim on him. When you get popped up by a rocket, its easy to get pre-occupied. Just ignore it and keep the aim on the opponent. Also, remember the moment you stop firing it takes time for your AC to spin up and fire again. So to avoid that I would simply not let go of the fire button at all once you are in a one-on-one situation (or even heavy incoming traffic.)

If you are pretty far apart, jump and crouch a lot - it's easy to jump over rockets, since the majority of soldiers aim for the feet/knees. Once your are close, jumping is kinda pointless. Get a bead on his face/neck/chest with your AC and shred 'em. Never stop moving, simply strafe side to side or circle strafe while maintaining the aim.

Thats the basic HW stuff. There are other finer things but that will come with time.

[sani]

team balance

[lollingat]

turn on your second processor

[donn]

when u are about to die, switch teams real quick then switch back

[Flyingcow]

jump up when he shoots at your feet, reduces the damage. if hes reloading, dont jump

[(Kool-Aid)golfisfun]

You said "by the time I land he's behind me" which implies you aren't following him with your aim as you are airborne. Keep firing your AC while in midair and keep your aim on him. When you get popped up by a rocket, its easy to get pre-occupied. Just ignore it and keep the aim on the opponent. Also, remember the moment you stop firing it takes time for your AC to spin up and fire again. So to avoid that I would simply not let go of the fire button at all once you are in a one-on-one situation (or even heavy incoming traffic.)

If you are pretty far apart, jump and crouch a lot - it's easy to jump over rockets, since the majority of soldiers aim for the feet/knees. Once your are close, jumping is kinda pointless. Get a bead on his face/neck/chest with your AC and shred 'em. Never stop moving, simply strafe side to side or circle strafe while maintaining the aim.

Thats the basic HW stuff. There are other finer things but that will come with time.

yeah but when im up in the air all i can see is fire and smoke from the rocket its a bitch trying to keep it aimed on him

[CZ_]

what arod said, jump when rockets come at you less damage

[di.oof]

yeah but when im up in the air all i can see is fire and smoke from the rocket its a bitch trying to keep it aimed on him
Interesting point. I happen to use reduced rocket flares, so I may have forgotten what it's like with the default rocket flare. I wouldn't go out of the way and get reduced rocket flares just yet. Try working on what (most) of the people posted above. Also - you should be able to see a few milliseconds of your enemy moving before you get blinded. You should expect that person to continue moving in that direction and as such turn your aim that way to increase your chances of getting hits, rather than stopping and waiting for the flares to go away. 90% of TFC fighting is prediction / extrapolation of movement.

[Gogeta]

i dont know what a solider is?
i guess it would depend on if the hwguy gets hard, then it would be solider...


(typoes in the topic are one of my pet peeves)

[Sterkarm]

I have to agree. Golf is fun.

[dos]

a good solly is a tough fight but you can win. These guys have listed quite a lot of useful tips, but the biggest thing I can suggest is not to get discourged even if you are doing all of these things and not succeeding. Sooner or later your aim will sharpen up and you'll notice how much easier people die when you keep the majority of your firing on them constantly.

[DarthGreg]

HWG vs Soldier = don't miss.

HWG vs any class = don't miss.

[CuRve]

if your aim is near perfect at close range a soldier cant kill you ever. unless you die to a nade on the ground after the soldier dies
O pish tosh, circle strafe his ass as an O solly.

[mugs]

you jump forward while shooting and aim for the belly untill you get close and aim for the face, if theres 2 hopefully you have nades. or the sollys are noobs.

[Jimyd]

Don't shoot him, run away, and tell your offense to break max d by chasing him in your base while spreading the love disease.

<3 TFC :p

[Sutterkane]

turn on your second processor

if you get the driver fix for dual procs put out by amd this doesn't happen anymore

[[GoW]HK]

you jump forward while shooting and aim for the belly untill you get close and aim for the face, if theres 2 hopefully you have nades. or the sollys are noobs.

that doesnt do anything

[Karms]

HWG vs Soldier = don't miss.

HWG vs any class = don't miss.


HWG against Fivestar or Blink = Pray they fuck up.

[doc]

Don't aim for the face, lol.

[Biney59]

Use the blood. More blood means you hitting him more.

[nfearious]

Don't aim for the face, lol.

I'm not sure if he includes the neck as the face, but I always go for the neck when up close. It splashes blood in their face and makes you harder to see. But that was like 3+ yrs ago, I don't know what kind of things people are changing these days.

But yeah, I agree with Wheaties also. Jumping when closeup is a bad idea. It messes up your aim,harder to block them,much harder(for me) to predict where they're going, and you can sometimes get body shotted a lot more. I usually just try to jump(figuratively, although it can help, but don't continue after you have blocked them) infront of them, or trap them in a corner/hall.

I only jumped to evade/invade faster,block,rev/shoot the gun without slowing down(I don't think the shooting part applies anymore),or to aim at something I couldn't have without jumping.

One of your main objective is not really to kill them, but to stop/slow them from heading to their destination(also to call it out, thats a big part of being HWG, is calling where they're going). Killing is the optimal plan, but you can't always get that kill even with HWG.

For me, it wasn't the soldiers that I had a hard time with, it was the engies. Engies with emps were something I feared. HWGs carry a lot of cells, and that EMP has a big damage radius and can go thru walls. One of those could kill you, or sink almost all your health away.

[xero]

Use clear explosion spritesSounds about right.

[Juggernaut02]

where can i dl some clear explosion sprites??

[Telos]

pretty much no where since etana came about

[wads]

i have some awsome ones i have them if you want them.

[Juggernaut02]

i have some awsome ones i have them if you want them.

that would be awesome...i want to see what they look like