mayor of N.O.

[kiken]

anyone else catch what that hypocrit said on tv yesterday. god if there is one person i would want assasinated it would be him.

[Zogo]

what did he say? it'd be pretty hard to top CHOCOLATE CITY.

[snaggle]

Something about New York not being able to fix a hole in the ground after 5 years when he was asked about fixing the problems in NO after a year.

[Zogo]

they're different situations..but he does have a point..neither rebuilding has been something to brag about.

[Cyberdemon]

hey guys did you see that guy on that thing it makes me so mad ok bye

[SlaX]

I caught him on Meet the Press during lunch today and his responses were pathetic. He dodged almost every question that was asked and basically said that he blames the federal government for the slow response, and even stated that if they were South Beach, Miami, etc., then the response time would have been better. He said he believed it was due to the poor and black population.

He might be right in that sense, but it's very ignorant to point the finger in every direction but his own. I'm surprised they re-elected that guy.

[koruptid]

I'm not surprised. Look at the people who live in New Orleans.

[azul]

Ground Zero was cleaned up rather quickly, and now we're just dealing with all the litigation and power-struggles to get the freedom tower to be built.

They're still finding bodies in New Orleans.

[Zogo]

Ground Zero was cleaned up rather quickly, and now we're just dealing with all the litigation and power-struggles to get the freedom tower to be built.

They're still finding bodies in New Orleans.

like I said..different situations..when your crime scene has compacted evidence over a few city blocks the whole thing is a lot simpler compared to covering hundreds of miles. do you have articles on them finding bodies within the last week or two?

I'm not surprised. Look at the people who live in New Orleans.

it's never surprising..when people are under stress/going through a conflict they almost always re-elect the familiar face.

[Obscure]

Having been to New Orleans this past Friday...

Well, let's just say Nagin is throwing stones in a very large glass house.

[stas]

it's never surprising..when people are under stress/going through a conflict they almost always re-elect the familiar face.

or youd be wrong and realize it was a completely different election from his first. in his first he won about 80% white vote, 20-30% black, enough to carry the city (at the time he represented the white/business interest being a former cable exec). now after the hurricane he switched his campaigning completely (went to alabama, houston, atlanta, etc, remember his "chocolate city" speech?) and won just the opposite, 80% black and 20-30% white. this has nothing to do with a familiar face and everything to do with a politician intent on polarizing people.

[kiken]

sorry i didn't post a link and shit was too tired from a 16 hr day. my thoughts are this guy and his city had a 5 day warning katrina was comming if i remember right. yet hardly anyone evacuated and used the buses to get the hell out of town. Now they wanna blame the Gov for their loses yes we already said things were fucked up and we weren't prepared for something like this. then again when we send the military and Nat guard down to start rescueing people stranded the helos get shot at. the big difference between 9-11 and Katrina New Yorkers didnt expect any help unlike New Orleans who demanded it. ya need daddy to hold you hand?

[AntioK]

sorry i didn't post a link and shit was too tired from a 16 hr day. my thoughts are this guy and his city had a 5 day warning katrina was comming if i remember right. yet hardly anyone evacuated and used the buses to get the hell out of town. Now they wanna blame the Gov for their loses yes we already said things were fucked up and we weren't prepared for something like this. then again when we send the military and Nat guard down to start rescueing people stranded the helos get shot at. the big difference between 9-11 and Katrina New Yorkers didnt expect any help unlike New Orleans who demanded it. ya need daddy to hold you hand?

I was under the impression the overwhelming majority evacuated the city, except for the poor blacks that couldn't afford it or literally didnt have anything else.

Their is plenty of blame to go around for all levels of government, including state and federal, and i also missed the report about the military getting shot at in the rescue attempts? could somebody point me in that direction, i would imagine if people started firing at the military it would be an absolute massacre.

[NVader]

sorry i didn't post a link and shit was too tired from a 16 hr day. my thoughts are this guy and his city had a 5 day warning katrina was comming if i remember right. yet hardly anyone evacuated and used the buses to get the hell out of town. Now they wanna blame the Gov for their loses yes we already said things were fucked up and we weren't prepared for something like this. then again when we send the military and Nat guard down to start rescueing people stranded the helos get shot at. the big difference between 9-11 and Katrina New Yorkers didnt expect any help unlike New Orleans who demanded it. ya need daddy to hold you hand?


So, New Orleans should have received ZERO government assistance for a category 4 storm that destroyed their levees and killed thousands of people? Am I right?

[Cyberdemon]

the big difference between 9-11 and Katrina New Yorkers didnt expect any help unlike New Orleans who demanded it. ya need daddy to hold you hand?

Far as I know there wasn't a Federal Planes Flying Into Buildings Agency tasked with disaster response after 9/11, whereas FEMA is responsible for...well, emergency management.

You still haven't posted a link to what the guy actually said.

[Zogo]

or youd be wrong and realize it was a completely different election from his first. in his first he won about 80% white vote, 20-30% black, enough to carry the city (at the time he represented the white/business interest being a former cable exec). now after the hurricane he switched his campaigning completely (went to alabama, houston, atlanta, etc, remember his "chocolate city" speech?) and won just the opposite, 80% black and 20-30% white. this has nothing to do with a familiar face and everything to do with a politician intent on polarizing people.

you can throw a bucket of irrelevant stats at me but my statement still stands.

[stas]

you can throw a bucket of irrelevant stats at me but my statement still stands.

if its untrue for this situation, it doesnt really stand now does it :(

[kiken]

I was under the impression the overwhelming majority evacuated the city, except for the poor blacks that couldn't afford it or literally didnt have anything else.

Their is plenty of blame to go around for all levels of government, including state and federal, and i also missed the report about the military getting shot at in the rescue attempts? could somebody point me in that direction, i would imagine if people started firing at the military it would be an absolute massacre.

http://www.reason.com/0512/co.mw.they.shtml
ok so i was misinformed about the helicopter snipings as for there being a massacre please tell me you are not that nieve. To actualy think a US military helo would 1 open fire on a crowd of civilians we aren't that bad and why would we attack those who we defend and fight for. 2 carry weapons at all on a RESCUE aircraft in a non combat area.

cyberdemon here is yer damn link.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14510763/

[Zogo]

they should have never confiscated guns in NO.

if its untrue for this situation, it doesnt really stand now does it :(

what?

[NVader]

stas has it right... basically. While it's literally impossible to determine whether Nagin's strong pro-black pro-urban agenda was concieved solely to win a second term, it's a fact that he was a registered republican his whole career, and only switched to being a democrat before running in 2002. It's generally accepted that he switched parties in order to get more votes in a highly democratic area.

Yeah, thats correct, the right-wing's poster child for bad democrats is actually a republican.

[Lanx0r]

I'm not surprised. Look at the people who live in New Orleans.


^^winner.

"Hey guys, lets build a city 8 feet below sea level and right down hurricane ally"

"Hey YEA! GREAT IDEA!"

duhhh

[snaggle]

^^winner.

"Hey guys, lets build a city 8 feet below sea level and right down hurricane ally"

"Hey YEA! GREAT IDEA!"

duhhh
Well, it was a French city originally...

[-Serialchilla-]

^^winner.

"Hey guys, lets build a city 8 feet below sea level and right down hurricane ally"

"Hey YEA! GREAT IDEA!"

duhhh


Hey, let's act like everyone knew what the fuck "Hurricane Alley" was when New Orleans was founded a few hundred years ago :rolleyes:

Now the city gets demolished and everyone wants to act like they're cool/funny by pointing out the hurricane and below sea level facts. If you're going to knock something, knock the fact that although they (local and fed govt) knew these things, they still never got off their asses to check the dependability of the levees and canals. Not once in over thirty years did anyone ask "hey, those walls that keep us alive, are they solid enough?"