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post-mortem
August 30th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Recently Ive been playin on party poker. Most fun ive had playing poker in a while. I use to be a member with pokerchamps which was a nice site.. but I didnt get much luck there. Ive tried most sites and even tho party poker isnt one of the prettier looking ones I'm still having fun and its making me a better poker player. My friend showed me bodog and it looks very nice. I might drop some cash just on some teams there and stick with party poker for the poker. Anybody have a name on party poker or doing well on a certain site?

Mityas
August 30th, 2006, 12:19 PM
I used to play on Fortune Poker, Pokerstars, Fulltilt, and Party Poker. The best one in my opinion is Fortune Poker so you might want to give that a shot. I like Party Poker because I just spent a lot of my money playing blackjack and thats where I made a lot of my money from them. I don't play online anymore, I withdrew all my money and closed off all my accounts but I still play live games almost every day. What stakes are you playing at? Do you play in any of the MTT's?

Ke-
August 30th, 2006, 12:58 PM
You can lose a lot of money FAST on partypoker blackjack. I watched my cousin lose several hundred dollars in minutes.

Skins
August 30th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Partypoker has the most newbies to take money from.
Fulltilt has a good variety of games and pros playing on it (if you like that sort of thing). Has rakeback if you find one of those sites to sign up through.
PokerStars has the best tournaments.
Full Contact Poker (Poker Room skin) has a pretty good intro bonus and some cool special tournies.

Leave BlackJack alone unless you're bonus whoring (in which case, whore on!)

Mityas
August 30th, 2006, 01:36 PM
You can lose a lot of money FAST on partypoker blackjack. I watched my cousin lose several hundred dollars in minutes.Then your cousin sucks at playing blackjack. Yeah you are going to lose money but if you play correctly you'll break even and make money. Once you start losing people tend to up their bets and thats the reason they lose a lot of money fast.

I'd play blackjack over poker any day.

uome|
August 30th, 2006, 01:37 PM
bodog for life

Skins
August 30th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Then your cousin sucks at playing blackjack. Yeah you are going to lose money but if you play correctly you'll break even and make money. Once you start losing people tend to up their bets and thats the reason they lose a lot of money fast.

I'd play blackjack over poker any day.

No.

Unless you count cards you will not make money at BlackJack in the long run. Even with absolutely perfect strategy the house has an edge, unless you find some crazy game with 1 deck and dealer not hitting on soft 17 plus 3:2 on BJs (please tell me if you do)

Mityas
August 30th, 2006, 01:58 PM
No.

Unless you count cards you will not make money at BlackJack in the long run. Even with absolutely perfect strategy the house has an edge, unless you find some crazy game with 1 deck and dealer not hitting on soft 17 plus 3:2 on BJs (please tell me if you do)Well I have never had a problem playing BJ at $5-20 a hand and have always come out on top. And I usually play it a couple times a week. The only time I lost money was when I was pissed off and played 6 hands at once at $20 a pop. That was my mistake and I learned not to do it again.

Kap`n
August 30th, 2006, 02:14 PM
i was playing blackjack on there the other night when i got bored in the middle of a multi table tourney. Usually i do shitty on blak jack on other online poker rooms so i only put in $10. I played $1 hands for about 20 minutes and got up to $50 then started $5 hands and stopped playing at $90 when the cards started getting cold.

oh and the quality of players on there is sooo shitty it can easily be a money pit. Theres a lot of stupid calls turned miracle suckouts in those tournaments...and not just in the lower buy ins, even with a $50 multi sit-n-go ive encountrered people who appears as tho they want to piss their money away as fast as possible and catch a miracle card.


last night in $22 multi i raised big with QQ, like 5 times the big blind. 2 people called and flop comes Q 10 10 with 2 hearts. I get bet into and raise there, the guy who bet first folds and the other guy goes all in. I called naturally and the guy had J8 of hearts. Shitty preflop call by him for 5 times BB then to go all the way on the draw...ugh. anyway you know what falls, he ends with a straight flush. Luckily i still had enough chips to last a while longer...

i just find it convenient that he gets it when i flop a fullboat on a really good starting hand.

ALieN
August 30th, 2006, 05:05 PM
I played on PartyPoker for the longest time, it was pretty gay where nobody really plays seriously. So now I play occasionally on Full Tilt Poker and I like that a lot better. I've tried every other site pretty much and the animations with everything are too fucking slow so it irritates me.

Kmack
August 30th, 2006, 05:27 PM
I play on Paradise Poker & Full Tilt pretty regularly. I play 2-3 decent size tournaments a week & various quickies here and there.

I've kept track of my winnings on both sites. Combined, I'm up around $3300. I won a couple of pretty big tournaments that set me up nice. I go up and down though. Just depends on what kinda mood I'm in :)

Diax
August 31st, 2006, 02:17 AM
I have been playing online poker for years now...

Sites I play/played and my thoughts:

Full tilt: Absolutely HATE the software. Far too slow and I dont care for the cartoons. The people there are so chatty and EXTREMELY rude. The only reason I sometimes play there is because one of the big pros that reps the site is a good friend of mine and I play live with her all the time.

Doyles room: Never any action, not even worth a shot.

Party Poker: reckless players there, so making $ is at good odds, but the suckouts get pretty expensive...lol Just have to go by odds. I dont play there because Im just not a huge fan of the software.

Poker Stars: Played a few times, Its ok...Nothing to brag about.

Titan Poker: a cluster f**k, dont bother unless you really want to get pissed off by support, or lack there of.

Ultimate Bet: Hands down the best site on the net. The software is super fast, no delays, no cartoon charactors, But you will find the most skilled players there, so fishing isnt as easy (Not impossible tho). The chat there is a lot less negative than Full tilt. Extremely easy to undertand menu of events/games vs others. The buddy finder (or fish finder) is the best offered anywhere. (www.ultimatebuddy.com) This is where I do 99% of my play.

I fully recommend ultimate bet over any other site.



As for blackjack, you can make a few dollars there if you get lucky. But I have come to the conclusion that (at least at UB) that it is rigged. I am not one to cry RIGGED to sites, but I find it nearly impossible to play out the way it does there. Ive never seen so many times a dealer showing a 6, and his undercard is 80% of the time a 5. If they show a 2 its almost guaranteed to be a 9.

Ive lost thousands on BJ there and have finally made it back thru HE and Omaha. I have learned my lesson and dont touch it anymore (At least online)

What was said here is the truth. If you play 100% correct BJ, the house has a 51% advantage. Counting cards is the only way to shift it into your favor. Counting cards is impossible online as you never know when decks are shuffled.

My advice, stay away from BJ and stick to finding fish on the multiplayer games.

Bwater
August 31st, 2006, 07:08 AM
Stay the fuck away from poker room, worst site EVAR. Their tournament server crashes almost daily, or at least it did when i tired it out a few months ago. Ultimate bet is good, as already mentioned, they have lots of low dollar buy in sng's which is nice if you are starting out, oh ya and their player points are actually pretty useful. I can't remember for certain, but I think their minimum depoist is only $25, yet another good reason to play there if you are just getting started. Not a fan of Absolute Poker's software, but they have dirt cheap sng's, like .50, so not a bad place to start either. Party Poker is jam packed full of donks, the bad beats are stunning, but if you have a clue it's not too hard to come out ahead in the long run. Poker Stars is pretty well rounded IMO, that's where I have been playing for the past few months. They have lots of nice MTT's if that's your thing. I definitely haven't given up the day job, but I've been doing pretty well there, got third out of 444 in a 50 mtt on the 23rd which was a nice payout, got second out of 935 in a $1 (im a high roller!) mtt on the 15th, and ive been itm several other times this month, easily my best month since I started last november. I got a royal flush this week too (my third one!).

I guess I'd have to also reccomend Ultimate Bet over all others for someone who is just starting out, and more specifically, their 10 person $1 sngs (not the turbos). I'd also reccomend checking out www.twoplustwo.com and www.pocketfives.com, both have strong poker communities with helpful forums.

I've never used rakeback before, can anyone tell me how that works?

As for blackjack, you can make a few dollars there if you get lucky. But I have come to the conclusion that (at least at UB) that it is rigged. I am not one to cry RIGGED to sites, but I find it nearly impossible to play out the way it does there. Ive never seen so many times a dealer showing a 6, and his undercard is 80% of the time a 5. If they show a 2 its almost guaranteed to be a 9.

I only played black jack once online, party poker, and I was either extremely unlucky or that shit is whack. I don't know if it was rigged or not, but it didn't feel like brick and mortar bj to me. Maybe its just because it moves so fast i dunno, but after one sitting I'm not interested in ever playing it online again lol. Speaking of rigged, ever play WSOP on playstation? Now that is some rigged shit.

last night in $22 multi i raised big with QQ, like 5 times the big blind. 2 people called and flop comes Q 10 10 with 2 hearts. I get bet into and raise there, the guy who bet first folds and the other guy goes all in. I called naturally and the guy had J8 of hearts. Shitty preflop call by him for 5 times BB then to go all the way on the draw...ugh. anyway you know what falls, he ends with a straight flush. Luckily i still had enough chips to last a while longer...

i just find it convenient that he gets it when i flop a fullboat on a really good starting hand.

I was just reading about a similar hand in the '05 WSOP when Jennifer Harman went out. She has qdqc, throws out a 4xbb from utg2 and gets a caller (Corey Zeidman) from mp, and the big blind also sees the flop: qhjdts
She bets 5/6ths the pot and gets reraised four times her bet, the bb departs with haste. She calls and fills up her boat with a td on the turn. She check raises large and he hangs in despite the pair on the board. river comes 7d. She moves in and he insta-calls. Zeidman turns over 9d8d...

Ke-
August 31st, 2006, 10:21 AM
Then your cousin sucks at playing blackjack. Yeah you are going to lose money but if you play correctly you'll break even and make money. Once you start losing people tend to up their bets and thats the reason they lose a lot of money fast.

I'd play blackjack over poker any day.
He definately doesnt suck at blackjack, hes up several thousand dollars total. He also isnt dumb enough to up his bets when on a losing streak, he plays 25-50 bets only. Its just that I can see how some moron would lose a couple hands and keep increasing his bets, and since hands only last like 10 seconds they could lose a lot of money FAST. The several hundred dollars i was talking about he lost on 20's several times and split on 21's. You can just get stuck on shitty runs it seems.

Skins
August 31st, 2006, 01:42 PM
Well I have never had a problem playing BJ at $5-20 a hand and have always come out on top. And I usually play it a couple times a week.

Woei, you must be like super-skilled then!

I was just reading about a similar hand in the '05 WSOP when Jennifer Harman went out. She has qdqc, throws out a 4xbb from utg2 and gets a caller (Corey Zeidman) from mp, and the big blind also sees the flop: qhjdts
She bets 5/6ths the pot and gets reraised four times her bet, the bb departs with haste. She calls and fills up her boat with a td on the turn. She check raises large and he hangs in despite the pair on the board. river comes 7d. She moves in and he insta-calls. Zeidman turns over 9d8d...

He certainly didn't "insta-call". The worst thing about that hand was the slow roll. The guy had the absolute nuts and after she jammed the river he goes "Well I guess I could be going home early" or something before calling. Dick move, but apparently he was nervous and wasn't thinking straight or something. Harman was mighty pissed though.

Bwater
August 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM
I read the play from HOH vol3 (pg56), and Harrington sure made it sound like he was well aware he had the stone cold nuts and made an easy call on the river, that's pretty fucked up if he didn't, that would have been hilarious if he folded. Speaking of HOH, I just finished vol3 today and have to say that Harrington's books are the best no limit holdem tournament books out there.

CZ_
August 31st, 2006, 06:41 PM
i play pokerstars :)
im jordan750 if you ever want to play
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CZ_
August 31st, 2006, 06:46 PM
wow accidnet double post

Rimuladas
August 31st, 2006, 07:09 PM
i started at partypoker then moved to poker.com.
poker.com seems to have alot more skilled opponents.

Gr8Shot
August 31st, 2006, 08:25 PM
so many people play in college, it seems like most people are up by alot. i dont think i know a single person that has lost a bunch of moneys.

Zogo
August 31st, 2006, 10:09 PM
I won 30,000 at fulltilt in one hand with A-A-A-4-4

it was fake money though.

Magus
August 31st, 2006, 11:47 PM
I play on pacific poker. It's shitty software and poor animations, but it's the easiest opponents and I'm not playing to put on some sort of show for myself, poker is a second job.

ken0bi
September 1st, 2006, 04:02 PM
i think pokerstars is the best online site. i used to play a lot, i'm taking a bit of a hiatus now (just got tiring) but their software is really good (the new update with the resizable tables is great for multitabling), they have a ton of players at all times (i think they are second in traffic behind party), their tech support is very helpful/not outsourced anywhere (stupid indians), and they have micro limits if you dont have enough money to play higher up or if you just wanna play for real money for fun (although i've played the $0.01/0.02 tables and i can't imagine they are much different than play money tables). online poker is pretty lucrative if you have the money to handle the swings and know what you are doing.

Diax
September 2nd, 2006, 02:23 AM
Ok, if you are into blackjack, you NEED to check out the new multi tables they just added to Ultimate bet... they are AWESOME!!!! they have sit n go elimination style blackjack games... and multi person cash games.

If you are looking for micro games, I would suggest Doyles Room. They have 10 cent sit n gos that people play like they are $100... But if you are not playing micros, I wouldnt suggest Doyles.

I forgot to add that pointer about doyles, since I dont play micro limits.

Terminotaur
September 2nd, 2006, 03:57 AM
Don't let logic get in the way of people's anecdotal experiences with blackjack. Blackjack = $$$ if you know how to play!

Diax
September 2nd, 2006, 10:53 PM
lol.... I know how to play and I count cards very well... I have done it for many many years.

Yes blackjack IS profitable...IN THE CASINO... It is NOT profitable online unless you get very lucky.

Skins
September 3rd, 2006, 11:36 AM
:rolleyes:

Solo
September 3rd, 2006, 12:08 PM
Diax made me an ulitmate bet fan. He's probably right about the skill there though since every time I go to a casino I walk out with 2x/3x what i walked in with.

suicyco
September 3rd, 2006, 06:48 PM
Dealer has edge in blackjack... the more decks that are used the more the odds lean in favor of the house.
Online Blackjack is a random dealt game and the cards are shuffled everytime. So , after a given amount of time, you just can not win.