View Full Version : STA 5v quandry
Eng
August 30th, 2006, 06:48 PM
DMS are, and have been, title holders for some time now due to (and I know this is mainly our fault, albeit thrust upon us ) disputes in titleshots and matches preceeding one. The fuct/UK title shot match last week is 'pending' still. If we (-UK-) win that dispute then surely our 6-4 win over DMS last night would of meant we'd be the new title holders.
I'm not saying you can go back in time and make that match a title match should the dispute swing our way (plus DMS can claim they didn't have their a-string out - although the strength of our team coupled with how they made us work makes that unlikely.. ), I'm just looking for clarification as to who will be the new title challengers if there was just another title shot match played last night, that zT won. Will we or fuct now have to play zT to see who plays DMS, further delaying a resolution to DMS' future? A second title shot of title shotters!
Cheers.
/Edit Would of been nice if the dispute was resolved before Tuesday, of course, so that our good friend Nazgul could of schedueled a title match! Alas, but I'm not one to criticise the response time of you guys (RL and all that).
Posted in STA forums. Someone told me, and another agreed, that posting it here would get me an answer quicker? Well anyway, it's curiosity above clan interest.
bergenhell
August 30th, 2006, 06:51 PM
hasn't fuct been disputed in all of their matches or something?
Eng
August 30th, 2006, 06:52 PM
No, that was us :P . We disputed fuct last match and they kicked up a hell of a fuss in these forums; the previous week bE disputed us and so we disputed them back. Anyway that's irrelevant to the matter at hand.
breeze Panic
August 30th, 2006, 10:27 PM
you said "If we (-UK-) win that dispute then surely our 6-4 win over DMS last night would of meant we'd be the new title holders. "
but fuct beat you... and that wasnt a title match either. so you cant win the title that way. i say fuct vs UK rematch since there never gonna solve the dispute. its not fair...but whatever 2 of 3 i guess
wraithforger
August 30th, 2006, 10:44 PM
-Desert_Chipmu']but fuct beat you...
go go ax1.wav!!!
darksoldier
August 30th, 2006, 11:40 PM
looks like zt plays DMS next week for the title
Loser
August 31st, 2006, 12:07 AM
DMS are, and have been, title holders for some time now due to (and I know this is mainly our fault, albeit thrust upon us ) disputes in titleshots and matches preceeding one. The fuct/UK title shot match last week is 'pending' still. If we (-UK-) win that dispute then surely our 6-4 win over DMS last night would of meant we'd be the new title holders.
it doesn't work that way. title holders often play non-title matches, and win or lose they still hold the title. to win the the title, a team must be selected for a title shot, win that match, and then win the following title match against either the current title holders or the winner of a different title shot match.
and don't call me shirley :p
`LiTHiuM
August 31st, 2006, 12:30 AM
the previous week bE disputed us and so we disputed them back.
i wasn't there, but i heard about it. lol.
colin
August 31st, 2006, 02:33 AM
what's the dispute
-Dirby-
August 31st, 2006, 03:32 AM
what's the dispute
gayness
Eng
August 31st, 2006, 06:26 AM
it doesn't work that way. title holders often play non-title matches, and win or lose they still hold the title. to win the the title, a team must be selected for a title shot, win that match, and then win the following title match against either the current title holders or the winner of a different title shot match.
and don't call me shirley :p
Yeah I know, the match vs fuct was a title shot but it ended in dispute. But I suppose as fuct DID win it it doesn't matter? Even though we disputed them?
If, as DS said, zT is playing DMS for the title then I guess we both got swept under the rug. Cheers Nazgul :) .
VoteSatan
August 31st, 2006, 07:44 AM
gonna dispute my way to platinum.
Thoth
August 31st, 2006, 08:59 AM
So whats with all the disputes? It seems like teams are doing it just because they don't like other teams.
Eng
August 31st, 2006, 09:34 AM
You'd be wrong. Like I said, we've disputed just the once in 5v5 (if you exclude bE - we disputed them AFTER they disputed us, mainly for kicks - not that they didn't break the rules).
Loser
August 31st, 2006, 12:22 PM
Yeah I know, the match vs fuct was a title shot but it ended in dispute. But I suppose as fuct DID win it it doesn't matter? Even though we disputed them?
the dispute winner will have won a title shot and will play for the title once the dispute is completed.
Eng
August 31st, 2006, 02:43 PM
Ok...so that means there'll be two titleshot winners?
(Dispute winners + zT )
linkfish
August 31st, 2006, 03:24 PM
well since im playing for DMS in 5v5 again, it's OVA SEN
ODAY
September 1st, 2006, 12:57 AM
2 tittle shot winners, them 2 teams play which ever wins gets the tittle shot and the other gets kicked out of the leauge for causing so much fucking bullshit you fucking cry babies
bergenhell
September 1st, 2006, 01:41 AM
So whats with all the disputes? It seems like teams are doing it just because they don't like other teams.
i think it's more of a case of fuct being a bunch of wankers and breaking every rule they can just to be annoying.
Eng
September 1st, 2006, 08:07 AM
2 tittle shot winners, them 2 teams play which ever wins gets the tittle shot and the other gets kicked out of the leauge for causing so much fucking bullshit you fucking cry babies
rofl <3 ODAY
Yeah berg, I didn't play them but that's the impression I got from other UK people.
Thoth
September 1st, 2006, 08:42 AM
i think it's more of a case of fuct being a bunch of wankers and breaking every rule they can just to be annoying.
Ah. Is HG_Dual still playing for them? I would assume not, as that's not his style at all.
darksoldier
September 1st, 2006, 12:02 PM
whats all this bullshit about breaking rules, if im noot mistaken berg, your team was the one going pyro and sniper and playing all d
darksoldier
September 1st, 2006, 12:03 PM
and yes dual plays, these guys cant handle a loss, at all
Edy
September 1st, 2006, 12:09 PM
whats all this bullshit about breaking rules, if im noot mistaken berg, your team was the one going pyro and sniper and playing all d
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Count
September 1st, 2006, 01:26 PM
whats all this bullshit about breaking rules, if im noot mistaken berg, your team was the one going pyro and sniper and playing all d
going pyro and sniping is not against any rules last time i checked.
Kap`n
September 1st, 2006, 01:31 PM
and yes dual plays, these guys cant handle a loss, at all
lol
gonna dispute my way to platinum.
great thought but youre way to bad too pull that off.
darksoldier
September 1st, 2006, 02:21 PM
going pyro and sniping is not against any rules last time i checked.
you must have missed the part about playing all D
Stylez
September 1st, 2006, 02:39 PM
why make it such a big deal? if your so good you could win those 2-4 games and earn your title shot again, instead of the constant crying. bring on whoever, |zT will play
bergenhell
September 1st, 2006, 02:54 PM
you must have missed the part about playing all D
i think the only time we played all d was when 2 of our players dropped and you sent your defense to spam our respawns.
darksoldier
September 1st, 2006, 03:51 PM
whether or not it was all D, or ovo, the fact stands that your team was the one who started the bs.
bergenhell
September 1st, 2006, 05:49 PM
when it's 5v3 and i leave the respawn to see a soldier, engineer, and a medic dming me, it's going to get gay.
ODAY
September 1st, 2006, 06:11 PM
real question is why would you even play 5v3... <3 berggie
Eng
September 1st, 2006, 06:30 PM
Well noone really came up with any official way things happen in these scenarios, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume we and fuct will have to queue for another title shot.
No need to continue the argument, darksoldier (worryingly listed as a clan contact for these guys) is clearly someone you can't have, in anyway, a cohesive or satisfactory argument with. His blatant idiocy (or maybe an unfortunate mixture of an inability to write and a very confrontational e-attitude) should not allow any of you to derive any sense of achievement in doing so - Kapn you already went down this road in the 5v5 Silver forum m8 . It's obvious dark feels his team were wrongly disputed, whilst we defend a justification. There, simple :D
bergenhell
September 1st, 2006, 06:31 PM
real question is why would you even play 5v3... <3 berggie
started 5v5 and two of our guys kept dropping cause of steam errors.
dramling
September 1st, 2006, 08:55 PM
Ok...so that means there'll be two titleshot winners?
(Dispute winners + zT )
my guess would be when zt plays dms for the title whoever wins gets put aside a week, winners of us v. fuct play winners of ktp vs br in a title shot match, then winner of that plays winner of dms/zt in title match in 3 weeks. idk if that's quite how it works but seems like it makes sense to me.
WhiteFox
September 4th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Everybody in 5v5 disputes. =epic= was disputed at least 3 times I think.
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