POTW 66

[red baron]

This is my first POTW. I really tried to do as much as I could with what I was submitted (which was a lot of great stuff -thanks guys!).

I can honestly say that this is my best work yet. When it came to actually making the avi, I didn't really have any problems. It was when I was trying to export the damn thing that everything went hay-wire.

About Friday of last week, I had most of the AVI completed, save the last 20~ seconds or so. I was just waiting for those last few plays. Well, I was testing the output, and then Premiere dicided it wanted to go comatose on me. Every time there was a transition about 5 pixels dropped from the top and bottom of the video. Why? I have no freakin' clue.

Then, I turned to Vegas. I finished up the video late last night, and was preparing to release around midnight, but that went awry as well. Since I've always used Premiere for my AVIs, I didn't know about the little black plague known as interlacing. So after too many rendering sessions, bothering a few people, and almost dying because the thing would compress right, I finally pumped a decent render out.

Big thanks go out to MoonGuardian and Fong for all of their help. If it wasn't for them I'd probably be at my computer banging my head on my desk because I promised an AVI and produced a 2:45 blur.

Please be kind in your criticism, since it's my first. (Hopefully it doesn't suck too bad :D). So without further delay, here's POTW 66!


POTW 66 (http://potw.thecatacombs.net/POTW_66.avi)

[free]

downloading!

[Minoxic]

d/l
edit:
I hate default rocket flares, but definetly enjoyed the avi. Nice work man

[free]

it was alright, i didnt care too much for the song i liked the hw cap and the final play with the flag grab

thanks for making it!

[SoulCutter]

I thought it was pretty good, I liked the style of it.

[fong]

schweet, dlin :P

[fong]

that was rape, was nice seein alot of those adl plays/players :D

[Capita]

wow, loved the flag catch at the end and the fatty cap!

[Red_Rabbit]

Great job red baron, i liked it a lot, and that not just because i was in it.

[jungle juice]

its good..

[dramling]

that was some good shit.

[AGT-Shady]

Well done, I liked the trench soldier fury, HW cap, and last clip.

[Jarek]

how did my 9 consecutive face stabs not make this potw :mad:

[defjux]

gj baron, would like to see another one by you, looks like you have a fair amount of editing potential

[Edy]

cool potw, but the hw capp was in reds avi :(.


also, was i the demo on czs play, i dont remember him getting a coast 2 coast (only him getting it out and concing it but dying)

[~A~]

Took long enough :o , stickied and uploading to The Catacombs.

[Karms]

all the sharpening managed to rape my eyes pretty hard, didnt like the song but besides that good avi baron

[Red_Rabbit]

cool potw, but the hw capp was in reds avi :(.


also, was i the demo on czs play, i dont remember him getting a coast 2 coast (only him getting it out and concing it but dying)


It was? I don't remember putting it in there....oh well just proves more people watched my avi then I watched it myself.

[Split]

gj baron but wheres my play whore?

liked it

[44-]

nice job for a first time, nemesis' airshot was like mine in potw 39 almost!

[red baron]

Thanks for all the feedback guys!

CZ did manage to get the flag out into the yard. He did die on that run, but on the next run he capped it. So get better Edy!

The sharpening... actually I tried to be light on the sharpening. :( So much for that. I know what you mean. I only used Unsharp mask. The rest was either level changes, some color changes on the bayeux plays, and some brightness/constrast on some darker plays like Avanti (though now that I've released it I think the last Hellion play is way too dark oops :D).

To be honest, usually my AVIs are a lot more clearer, it's just that this time I was pretty much forced to use Vegas since Premiere crapped out on me. I was up last night trying to figure out why the fuck every time I exported all I got was 2:45 clip of blurry stuff.

I'm usually pretty good at compressing stuff and making AVIs come out good, but Vegas was just beating me down with a stick. It kind of reminded me of how good I am at TFC. Not very. At all. But eventually with Fong's help I was able to get out a semi-decent render.

Does the final render look good? To some extent yes, if you're easily pleased, but as far as my previous AVIs go, and what I'm used to and have done on the side in the past, that is a very bad render.

It was more of a relief to actually get something out of the damn thing; I didn't care how good it looked, as long as it looked presentable.

Trust me, I was freaking out when Premiere wouldn't export correctly, and even more so last night when all I got out of Vegas was blurry shit. For as many problems as I faced making this AVI with compression and rendering, I'm very content with how well it ended up.

[Gogeta]

well ffs, now i cant use that song in my avi. :\
i liked it, but i saw alot of better plays being submitted to this.

[Red_Rabbit]

I don't know if its been mentioned, but who is the song by?

[Edy]

It was? I don't remember putting it in there....oh well just proves more people watched my avi then I watched it myself.



hmm, it was either your avi or pmps avi, i cant remember but i definately saw it before.

[kent]

I don't know if its been mentioned, but who is the song by?
thousand foot krutch - rawkfist

[_loche]

you didnt put in slippys double crowbar cap saves vs lkta =[


it was ok overall, didnt like the song

[Dirky]

gj baroonnnnn

[[=PR=]Renegade]

liked it alot baron gj

[Jomma]

dirk's cap on bayeux was the best imo, perfectly executed

[unfy]

3.7 MB/s ftw

[Gogeta]

lol at [BoA] and [GoW] being labeled as [BOa] and [GOw] :\

[`Air]

Although you forgot to put my name on my play... GJ on the avi pretty entertaining.

[Fatal|sD]

lol @ different gammas

[jabroni]

hurting for footage but a lot didnt get in :rolleyes:

[CZ_]

cool potw, but the hw capp was in reds avi :(.


also, was i the demo on czs play, i dont remember him getting a coast 2 coast (only him getting it out and concing it but dying)
it was you

[Thrash]

i thought it was OK...


the text seemed really amateurish and sloppy, could have been a lot better

just too inconsistent overall, detracted from it a great deal

[donn]

not the best potw ever, but some nice av sync made it enjoyable. gj

[my-t]

liked the song and plays. GJ.

i was in there for like 2 secs >_< lolol

[Jomma]

liked the song and plays. GJ.

i was in there for like 2 secs >_< lolol

yea i was to, i think i was the demo piping cap4 of cornfield, got the first person on cap, and that sneaky bastard Red_Rubber grabbed it mid air....

where is the demo script exploit that leaves out another pipe upon det when i needed it..... :D

[di.oof]

dirk's cap on bayeux was the best imo, perfectly executedthat WAS well done.

Hey now, I conced that fatty! No love :(

[[GoW]HK]

lol @ being airshotted by tercel.

that was a siiiick shot tho why did you chop it up like that? u cant tell whats goin on...

[[GoW]HK]

also, was i the demo on czs play, i dont remember him getting a coast 2 coast (only him getting it out and concing it but dying)


pretty sure he died at the bridge or bments or something, but same difference :/

[BoSlim]

yea some of the clans were labeled wrong, I dunno if when people submitted they just didn't put them in right or you just put caps and lowercase where you wanted. I only noticed it on HLHS being spelt hLhs haha. Silly my-t grabbing a flag that he probly didn't even help get to the yard! jk man :p

Also I really like to see not only the league, but the division labeled as well. Instead of just saying STA 5v5, say STA 5v5 Gold or whatever.

Overall it was fairly entertaining, and for your first one not a bad job.

[CZ_]

HK']pretty sure he died at the bridge or bments or something, but same difference :/

ya i threw it to yard

[Unique]

how did my 9 consecutive face stabs not make this potw :mad:
hahahahaha i love it. i would've liked to have seen that play =/

[my-t]

gj baron, would like to see another one by you, looks like you have a fair amount of editing potential

i agree i hope you do another one. just dont take a month on it :D lololol

[Cereal_Spiller`]

I liked this avi, the only downside for me was the text and the lack of a name/clan for the medic on mortality_l. Other than that I liked the plays/stye and I've been listening to that song over and over since I dl'ed the avi.

[Gogeta]

im pretty sure the medic play that wasnt labled was Zi clan - |zT, against [RiCE]
and what was also submitted for that exact play is that Everlast capped the next run.

[Mashi-Knight]

gj andy

[slippy]

bad

[VoteSatan]

Agreed with gogeta. DL'd quite a few of the demos to watch their submissions, and saw a good majority of plays there were just as good if not better than the ones that made it into the avi. Overall the avi was decent, but not 3 weeks long decent.

[Ke-]

Whoevers doing potw 67 should include some of the plays that were left out of this one.

[Gogeta]

Whoevers doing potw 67 should include some of the plays that were left out of this one.
agreed, there were many good plays.

[red baron]

Damnit.

A huge apology to Zi. Like I was saying before, I had to completely reedit the AVI from Premiere to Vegas, and the titles were the last thing I did. I'm sorry dude. It slipped. Your name was in my Premiere version. I was trying to get it out as fast as possible because, as people have said, it's been a while. Sorry dude.

The actual font that I used was like that. I didn't purposely miscapitalize any clan tag. I had intended on using a font that I thought went along with the song. Though I'm not a fan of toggling at all, I thought the font fit with the music. Sorry if I offended anyone or anyone's clan because of the font.

As for the plays, there were a lot of good plays submitted. Yes. I totally agree with you. I was shooting for something smaller though. That 7-kill spy run must have run more than 30 seconds, and since I was going for a smaller, quicker AVI I just couldn't put it in there. There were others that got left out too. I intended on putting in a rape HW scene where the guy (sorry I can't remember who it was) held the flag in the yard for a while and ended up taking down 9+? people. That and cal's demoman submission; earlier in the demo |D| ended up returning a flag that was in the front room. That play itself I felt was 10x better than the play I put in for him. The main problem was that it was too long. If I were to put those plays in it would have doubled the length of the AVI, or at least taken up a large portion of it, and that's not what I wanted.

And I'll outright admit that I have at least some bias when it comes to CTF. I'm mainly an ADL player, and I can tell what a good ADL play is when I see it, but as experienced as I am there, I'm probably equally inexperienced at CTF. I've played with a few CTF clans, but the main reasons were because they were with friends. I play for paPOW, but if I were ever expected to play anything besides engineer, even in Bronze, I'd get rolled. Bad. My concept of what a good CTF play is is probably a lot different than what you guys instinctively know, just because you guys play it a lot more than me. I think it just takes a lot more for a good play to stick out for me. And the more subtle plays, the ones that experienced players easily pick out, they're harder for me to detect and appreciate. For instance, minoxic just released his AVI that included a play on monkey_l where he conced straight into the water. I saw people saying what a good play it was, but when I looked at it in the demo that he originally submitted for the POTW, I wasn't very impressed.


The lighting levels were all done in batch photoshop. I was trying to make it uniform, but my primary goal overall concerning lighting and such was to make sure that you actually see each play (though I pretty much botched the Hellion play). There's a big difference in light between Avanti and Cornfield, and I guess you could say the same with monkey_l or shutdown2 and mortality or trench. I just tried to make sure you could see the play. I didn't really worry about uniformity concerning the actual light, I just tried to make sure there was enough light to see.

Tercel's play was cut up to sync with the music.

And gogs. You're a whore. I told you before, submit something worth putting into a POTW and I'll gladly put it in. I really appreciated your interest in the AVI, but when I saw you pulling off plays that even I have seen time and time again, you're only setting yourself up. *kisses!!!*

Sorry it wasn't up to par. To be honest I wasn't really really satisfied with the final render, just glad to have it out because, like you guys said, it's been three weeks. I wish I would have been able to more with it to make it more appealing to you guys, but between Premiere and Vegas and some other random crap that happened, I just wasn't able to pull it off quite how I had imagined it.

I do hope to do another POTW. Probably not the next one, but one soon. I'll make sure to take all of your advice and criticism to the drawing board and make sure I correct my mistakes for the next one. Thanks guys!

[Jarek]

lol yea it was actually like 90 seconds, so i completely understand. it wouldn't fit the song either(i can picture something less serious like gorillaz) considering i sworded 2-3 offense because that clan was making me angry

i hope you have the demo still tho, cause i might very well lose my HD if a repair install of windows doesnt solve it :(

edit: no need to appologize and think you did a bad job, the avi itself was very well put together, especially considering your situation

[Kenshin]

YES!! I FINALLY MADE A POTW :)


Andy's play should have made it too, only because his was better then mine I think :D.

[ob]

will dl and watch

very nice except i agree w/ thrash on the text. music was alright. quality was nice. plays were nice. i want to make one now

[kenitals]

there was an obvious red bias here.. :p

really though, gj considering all the technical difficulties and such

[DRunkCoWBoy]

that medic that got owned wen it started was me =D

[r0y4l]

song wasn't really gay enough for my taste... but a pretty fun editing job.

Looking forward to your next one!

[Gogeta]

And gogs. You're a whore. I told you before, submit something worth putting into a POTW and I'll gladly put it in. I really appreciated your interest in the AVI, but when I saw you pulling off plays that even I have seen time and time again, you're only setting yourself up. *kisses!!!*
im not talking about my plays.

[Nomad]

i enjoyed it! pretty solid work for your first avi, the a/v sync is something i'd love to see more emphasis on in the future, hopefully people will follow your example in that regard :p
i was going to say something about the font for the labels not being my favorite, but it looks like that's already been addressed, so nevermind :)
hope you get your premiere sorted out, and good luck with your next avi !

[SoulCutter]

Who's doing 67?

[fong]

im not talking about my plays.


he is

LOLZ

[defjux]

only thing i didn't like was that asking for "unique o plays" and then putting in all those mortality plays is sorta contradictory

[Simplicit-]

I enjoyed it rb nice job.