AMD or Intel ?

[MK.Sub-Zero]

I picked out the parts for an AMD comp and a Intel comp. I don't know which one is better. Help me decide. The video card I've chosen is just temporary until the Dx10 comes out. I mean it seems like a step up from 9800 pro. Anyways, I just need to know which setup is better.

Intel:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115004)
ASUS P5NSLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI Intel Edition (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131032)
pqi TURBO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Dual Channel (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820141199)
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148155)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3400620AS 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148138)

or

AMD:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz Socket 939 Dual Core (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103547)
ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131569)
Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820134039)
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136033)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD4000KD 400GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144423)

Definately getting these:
Thermaltake SViking VA4000BWS Black 0.8 mm SECC Chassis ATX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811133142)
BFG Tech BFGR73256GSOCE Geforce 7300GS Supporting 512MB (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814143050)
Thermaltake TR2 W0070 ATX 430W (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817153023)
NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152058)

Hopefully there's nothing wrong with any of the choices I've made.

[Janus]

Get Intel.

Get faster RAM (NOT PC2-4200), try DDR800 to take advantage of the bandwidth increase.

Get a better power supply. Thermaltake PSUs suck.

Why the indescretion between seagate and WD when choosing hard dives?

[MeestarK]

That video card is terrible, and is not a step up from your 9800 Pro. At least get a 7600GT or a X800XL.

[MK.Sub-Zero]

Intel:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115004)
ASUS P5NSLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI Intel Edition (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131032)
*CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034)
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148155)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3400620AS 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148138)

or

AMD:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz Socket 939 Dual Core (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103547)
ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131569)
Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820134039)
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136033)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD4000KD 400GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144423)

Definately getting these:
Thermaltake SViking VA4000BWS Black 0.8 mm SECC Chassis ATX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811133142)
BFG Tech BFGR73256GSOCE Geforce 7300GS Supporting 512MB (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814143050)
*Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937)
NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152058)

*Updated

I couldn't edit my 1st post, so i had to c/p.

1. The Intel mobo seems to support SATA 3 g/bs and the AMD mobo can only go up to SATA150. So, I had to choose different HDs.

2. What's wrong with the video card? The clocks seem to be higher than the 9800 pro, isn't it?

[MeestarK]

No the card is much worse than the 9800 Pro. The 7300GS is a super budget card good for holding paper down on a windy day, and keeping water rings off of your desk. You could probably even find a PCI-E 6600GT for cheap, which would give you slightly better performance than your current 9800 Pro.

[public_slots_free.mL]

I will say intel because the benchmarks are higher on the new dual cores and also because i work at intel :P

[MV8]

I will say intel because the benchmarks are higher on the new dual cores and also because i work at intel :P


In reference to the impending layoffs, how much longer will you work there?

[megatron]

I will say intel because the benchmarks are higher on the new dual cores and also because i work at intel :P

get me a deal cracker!

[rasputin]

I just recently upgraded to one of the new FX processors but kinda wish I went to an Intel. Don't get me wrong, this FX processor is amazing, but I've been hearing great things about the top-of-the-line Intel chips I should have researched a bit more. Just my opinion, though.

[public_slots_free.mL]

In reference to the impending layoffs, how much longer will you work there?

a long time if people buy intel! I don't work FOR intel, i work at intel. I dont get any special deals like real intel employees do because i do not technically work for intel. The only real benefit i got was a Thinkpad. So in reference to your question, i will probably work here for a year. In May I will have my bachelors and then I plan to quit.

[CHIPMAN]

I just built a computer on the weekend for myself

I put the E6300 in it and plan to overclock it in a few months.

Go Intel. Nothing more to say. If you're curious why, check out tomshardware or just about any other similar site, the reviews are through the roof on the Core2's.

And I agree with getting a better video card. I went with the eVGA 7900GT KO 256mb, its a fantastic card, with a good price tag. You're better off getting a good card now, and buying a DX10 card when they come down in price and are actually completely necessary than you are buying a really shitty card now and spending out your ass for a good DX10 card later on.

And DEFINITELY get DDR800 (PC-6400) as I saw you seem to have agreed with, don't get a Core2 unless you're gonna get the other pieces of hardware that it makes complete use of.

[MK.Sub-Zero]

Ok, I'm thinking of getting this card:
SAPPHIRE 100101L Radeon X850XT PE 256MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102052)
Decent?
I don't really want to spend that much on a gfx card, just something that is equal or a better than my 9800 pro.

[thrash_head]

Its a good card, I would still look at the 7800/7900 series because they rape.

[MeestarK]

That card is fine, Sub-Zero. You're not breaking the bank, and it will give you as good as if not better performance than your 9800 Pro. I disagree with Thrash_head, I wouldn't bother with a $250 card right now, so close to DX10. I'd just get a midrange card, then pay when the new cards are out.

[Nine]

Its a good card, I would still look at the 7800/7900 series because they rape.oh is that why

[rasputin]

The 7600's are good cards, too, and very modestly priced now.

[Killjoy]

as meestark said, the x850xt will give you significantly better performance compared to the 9800 pro. it will probably overclock quite well too.

[MK.Sub-Zero]

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115004)
ASUS P5NSLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI Intel Edition (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131032)
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034)
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148155)
Thermaltake SViking VA4000BWS Black 0.8 mm SECC Chassis ATX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811133142)
SAPPHIRE 100101L Radeon X850XT PE 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814102052)
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937)
NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152058)

Ok, I'm set of what I'm getting. Really appreciate the help :)

One more thing though, I kind of want to go wireless router. Is that a good idea, especially for gaming?

[Janus]

excellent.

as for the wireless question... meh. You won't ever have as good or stable of a conection as you would on wired.

[Milosenpotion]

I'd change the E6400 to E6600 and get the 320GB Seagate HD (It's either 90 or 95 bucks, can't remember).

[CHIPMAN]

Just so we're clear

You do realize you're getting an SLI motherboard, right?

I know you don't plan to keep your X850 for long, but you realize that you'll have to go NVidia, right?

[MK.Sub-Zero]

You're right, the 320 Gig is just 5 bucks more.

chipman, does getting a SLI board mean I have to get 2 cards for it? And it has to be nvidia?
Maybe you can recommend something else then? :)

[Cent]

double post***

[Cent]

If you get a SLI motherboard, you dont have to get 2 video cards. It just costs abit extra money.

[Janus]

If you get a SLI motherboard, you dont have to get 2 video cards. It just costs abit extra money.
and if you wanted to use 2 cards they have to be nvidia ones.

[CHIPMAN]

Cent and Janus beat me to it ^^

[MK.Sub-Zero]

Well, I'll be receiving my parts next week. Cost me about $1,073. Thanks to all :cool: