2 simultaneous modems possible with DSL?

[Milosenpotion]

So I moved into a new apartment but there's no good way for us to put a cable from one room into my room, and I'm not going back on wireless. We have DSL and a phone jack in each room. One is (obviously) already connected with a modem that a guy already had. We have an extra modem now because Verizon sent us one when we ordered the DSL. Is it possible to hook that modem up to the phone jack in my room and have both modems working at the same time? Thanky.

[N4P4LM]

no

[Nine]

buy a router.

[Milosenpotion]

We've got a router, but the doors wont be able to close with the cables on the floor :'(

[Nine]

under the carpet! UNDER THE CARPET!!

.. or just under the door.

[N4P4LM]

We've got a router, but the doors wont be able to close with the cables on the floor :'(

get a spool of Cat 5, some RJ-45 ethernet jacks, a punchdown tool, some faceplates, and just wire every room in the house through the walls...it'll be fun, i promise.

[ass*assassin]

get a spool of Cat 5, some RJ-45 ethernet jacks, a punchdown tool, some faceplates, and just wire every room in the house through the walls...it'll be fun, i promise.

hey, this shit ain't rocket science.. you can buy all of this at your local home depot or lowes.. will take a few hours to wire up, but it would be worth it if you plan on staying a while..

if not, and if you are a gamer, and he is not, make sure you get a wireless router and put him on the wireless side and you wired into the hub/router.. never ever try to game on a wireless connection.. you will regret it.

[Zogo]

how small is the space between the door? they do have that wiring with less shielding..just don't step on it.

[Milosenpotion]

9: I like the under the carpet thing, but don't you need some kinda special tools to fix the carpet again against the walls?
AA: Yea I've gamed on wireless for like 3 yrs in the past...that's why I said I'm not going back on it :p
Z: The space is non-existant. It's one of those carpet-to-door gap ratios that is so extreme that the door is hard to close. :'(

[Mulchman MM]

just put a small 3/4 in hole through the wall. i've done it in both apartments i've lived in so far... when you go to move just fill it in w/ spackling. you want the hole to be right above the baseboards though... and in a corner... so they don't notice it during your move out inspection.

[Zogo]

you could take the door off and put beads up..like a hippie.

[N4P4LM]

how small is the space between the door? they do have that wiring with less shielding..just don't step on it.

i've never heard of this...and really dont see how it's possibly. there's really barely any type of sheilding on cat5 cables to begin with. all you've got is your 8-pairs of copper that have very little plastic on them, twisted around eachother and, put in a plastic casing that's relatively thin. and if they do make anything with thinner plastic on the outside, i wouldnt trust to to work for very long...

[Milosenpotion]

What if we order DSL from another company for our room...would that only work if we also got another phone line to go along with it?

[N4P4LM]

What if we order DSL from another company for our room...would that only work if we also got another phone line to go along with it?

yes

[Zogo]

i've never heard of this...and really dont see how it's possibly. there's really barely any type of sheilding on cat5 cables to begin with. all you've got is your 8-pairs of copper that have very little plastic on them, twisted around eachother and, put in a plastic casing that's relatively thin. and if they do make anything with thinner plastic on the outside, i wouldnt trust to to work for very long...

they have this http://www.vpi.us/cable-sf-shld.html

and I've seen another type too..but I can't find a link online showing it.

[N4P4LM]

zogo, is that cable flat like a digital phone line cord would be? (that's how it looks from the diagram...but maybe it isnt). if that's the case, you might as well just eliminate two of the pairs, and only have 2 STPs. granted...i'm somewhat of a novice at networking, but ethernet only uses two pairs to begin with, and if all of the pairs are side-by-side in the cable, i would think that they arent helping eachother reduce interference with the signal, and you've basically got 2 pairs that arent even worth having. there's a reason that cat5 is made with 2 extra pairs that are twisted together with the others. if anyone knows better than i do, please enlighten me....but i'm pretty sure that i'm right on with this one.

[Zogo]

what digital phone line cords?

yes you could take some of the wires out but then it would lose its cat5e classification (up to 1000Mbps) and be degraded to something lower. really 99% of home users need only cat 3 cable.

you'll also notice that the cable in that link is shielded with foil..unlike normal cat5e.

[PeeKZ_333]

or just unplug the ethernet cable altogether and stay off the internet.

[ass*assassin]

just put a small 3/4 in hole through the wall. i've done it in both apartments i've lived in so far... when you go to move just fill it in w/ spackling. you want the hole to be right above the baseboards though... and in a corner... so they don't notice it during your move out inspection.

good idea here.. used it myself.. hell, if you are really cheap, you can use plain old white toothpaste to fill in the holes, put tissue paper behind it for big holes to give it something to stick too.. funny thing is , a few months down the line, the toothpaste will turn color, crack and fall out.. thus, giving the landlord something to fix.. note: Only do this to asshole landlords.. this will get you thru the inspection and get your money back though.. :)

[Milosenpotion]

Ok update: The 4 of us are splitting a single DSL connection using a hub right now. Only problem is that our package is like the shittiest one ever, so there's like no bandwidth whatsoever. If I'm in-game I'll have like 700 ping if somebody's surfing the web or uploading a torrent at 1 kb/sec. We're thinking of going to cable. Will this help? From what I know, cable has huge servers that are split by all the people around you, whereas with DSL each line is it's own server. Would this make a difference since adding us 4 to a cable server wouldn't make a huge difference, or would it still be shitty because cable will only give our line a cetain amount of the total bandwidth and then we'd be splitting that amount amongst ourselves?

[N4P4LM]

first thing i would do is get a router instead of a hub. they're a lot better for your kind of situation, and definitely have the possibility of making everyone's connection better.

if there's 4 of you splitting the connection, maybe you'd want to look into a dsl connection that has a higher bandwidth than the one you have right now...the price split 4 ways shouldnt be too unbearable, but it all depends on your budget. and the dsl vs cable debate is very dependant on your area. you really never know which is gonna be better until you try both.

[Zogo]

We're thinking of going to cable. Will this help?

completely depends on the area...but in general cable does provide a larger bandwidth. what company is it? usually the company has a few different speed plans. if you get the highest version I bet it'll be better.

and what do you mean each DSL line has its own server? that sounds very funny. are you using the best package?

also are you sure you're using a hub? those shouldn't even work for connecting internet..I think you're using a router.

[N4P4LM]

also are you sure you're using a hub? those shouldn't even work for connecting internet..I think you're using a router.

could have a PC with 2 NICs connecting to the DSL and then bridging the connection to a hub

[Milosenpotion]

We got the telephone line going to the modem, going to the router, going to a hub, going to the 4 computers...I'm guessing getting rid of the HUB and having the router connect to our 4 comps will be better?

[N4P4LM]

umm yeah...there's not much of a point in having a hub unless your router doesnt have enough ports for all the devices you want to connect to it.

[Zogo]

I think hubs could act as a repeater too. not valuable in this case.

[Milosenpotion]

K thanks guys, appreciate the help