All STA match servers need to upgrade ETANA plugin by Oct 16th

[Fornaught]

Server Admins
Please update your server's plugin prior to matches on the 16th and 17th. It is required in 9vs9 on the 16th, and in 5v5 on the 17th.

The new version is on the STA Files page, along with a text of full instructions.
http://tfc.sta-league.org/files.html

The new version is more capable and will provide better performance. It requires a metamod server addon version of 1.19 or better.
There is also a new match server config with the new svars needed for ETANA2, look for the new statfc.cfg on that Files page.


For those looking for even better server performance, you can update your metamod server addon at the same time. A newer enhanced performance Metamod version has been developed and it is called Metamod-P. It will provide better performance and less CPU usage than the original Metamod. This version is fully compatable with the new ETANA2 plugin. You can find the Metamod-P server addon v1.19p28 here:
http://metamod-p.sourceforge.net/

Thanks

[Corsair]

<newb>

I'm not a server admin and haven't paid attention to this sort of stuff for the last couple years. What exactly does this do?

</newb>

[wraithforger]

It is a plugin that is intended to block the use of clear explosion sprites, global timers, and the use of _special (among some other client settings).

[Vr_]

does it work?

[beast]

only on weekends

[Jarek]

havent we been using this for like a year

[fong]

too bad it doesn't work LOLZ

[Bookrat]

havent we been using this for like a year
STA has been using ETANA for about a year. This is a new version, ETANA2, which has new and improved code that is more effective at blocking the things it says it blocks.

Basically, it's an upgrade. If you (generic you) haven't been trying to bypass the old ETANA, then ETANA2 won't make any difference to you. If you have, then this should make it significantly more difficult... plus it blocks a few new engine exploits that we didn't have any mechanistic protection against before.

[BoSlim]

too bad it doesn't work LOLZ
you better get hard at work to figure out how to get around this new exploit blocker, otherwise L2D will be bad again.

Its good to see something being done still with etana and such, anything new is better than just accepting hackers/exploiters.

[Wheaties[TCK]]

I still remember how funny it was the first 2 weeks seeing a shitload of people getting kicked from the server

<Player> I'm being kicked for abusing _Special, Bye!

oh, the joy

[Kueller]

More effective at corrupting demos maybe...I've been getting svc_bad errors when I try to viewdemo my demos recorded on etana2 servers. Playdemo works, but I make so few good plays, I really like being able to fast forward through the bad 29:45.

[wraithforger]

It should not affect demos in any way. It can do nothing to your client (which is recording the demo) except kick/block it from the server.

[Stylez]

We tested ETANA out, and it did come out to be the problem. Demos came out fine without ETANA.

[Toastie]

More effective at corrupting demos maybe...I've been getting svc_bad errors when I try to viewdemo my demos recorded on etana2 servers. Playdemo works, but I make so few good plays, I really like being able to fast forward through the bad 29:45.

while everyone is saying gg, you're puttin your work in!

[ktslim]

I know what _Special is, and don't mind it being restricted from gameplay. But the time I spent inactive and away from the game, this so-called .dll business popped up. Anyone care to explain what it is, and is this blocked in your metamod?

[jav]

you better get hard at work to figure out how to get around this new exploit blocker, otherwise L2D will be bad again.

i take offense to this bo

[Jarek]

I know what _Special is, and don't mind it being restricted from gameplay. But the time I spent inactive and away from the game, this so-called .dll business popped up. Anyone care to explain what it is, and is this blocked in your metamod?

coulda just asked me or SE br0!!???!

[ktslim]

I would have, but I haven't quite gotten the hang of the newby language...or Al Qaida for that matter.

[Vr_]

owned

[Fornaught]

We tested ETANA out, and it did come out to be the problem. Demos came out fine without ETANA.


If you did test, can you post details of what you did.
My demos are playable and viewable, from matches on a server with etana2. It would be very improbable that ETANA2 would have any effect on a client demo, plus I should also mention that a similar version has been used in euro for many months with no problems.


The new version of ETANA2 is required for matches on Monday the 16th - that is this coming Monday.

[di.oof]

not 100% sure it's due to ETANA2 but here's a thread about the viewdemo problem: http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=89764

[`LiTHiuM]

Think I did everything correctly, but it's showing that our server is running cvar etana_version 2.09, is this right? I also installed the MetaMod-P, if that has anything to do with it.

[fong]

you better get hard at work to figure out how to get around this new exploit blocker, otherwise L2D will be bad again.

Its good to see something being done still with etana and such, anything new is better than just accepting hackers/exploiters.


work is done

[Jarek]

i'm pretty sure i saw some vQc guy get booted last night from a pub server for it. wonder if it was the new version that caught him...

[Thoth]

I was getting booted from a server last night for my traceroffset setting. ETANA recommended it was at 30. I checked my tracer config, and it was set at 30. I got confused, but went back in to try again, and I got kicked again.

I finally had to look in the ETANA info file to realize that it wants the setting at 30.0, not 30 :(

[MoonGuardian]

My demos from an ETANA2 server still playdemo/viewdemo (both) fine...

This could either be a client side problem (settings somewhere?) or depending on the server setups possible. I'm not sure. :(

[wraithforger]

i'm pretty sure i saw some vQc guy get booted last night from a pub server for it. wonder if it was the new version that caught him...
same thing happened to a ugc beer guy before our 7v7 match...it must be doing "something" different at least

but, from the 30 vs 30.0 mentioned above, seems it needs to be a bit more tolerant lol

[fong]

i hope you guys fix the demo error. well i guess you have to, because if people dispute you can't view their demo LOLZ. nice work.

fix it.

[MightyMouse]

POTW wont be getting these matches

[Jarek]

wait is that why my fucking viewdemo crashes you assholes

i spent an hour trying to watch this awesome play from ofire last night, bastards

and yea the vQc guy got kicked for _special, as it says the "I'm being kicked ofr abusing _special." someone got booted for tracer offset in a match on vidar2 a few weeks ago in our match and it says traceroffset.

[~A~]

Demos fucked up.

[di.oof]

A server without ETANA2:
] viewdemo pmp8rd1bkk
Playing demo from pmp8rd1bkk.dem.
>
BUILD 3382 SERVER (0 CRC)
Server # 227

Added 790 resources.
Received baseline with 228 entities.
Received instanced baseline with 63 entities.
Protocol Version 47, Spawn count 227
...
[PmP]Red_Rabbit: gg
Iridium: gg
Fire: gg
[PmP]Hampster* gg

Another server without ETANA2:
] viewdemo pmp8rd2bkk
Playing demo from pmp8rd2bkk.dem.
>
BUILD 3382 SERVER (0 CRC)
Server # 140

Added 791 resources.
Received baseline with 225 entities.
Received instanced baseline with 63 entities.
Protocol Version 47, Spawn count 140
...
[PmP]Red_Rabbit: gg
Iridium: gg
|3. Rain: gg
[PmP] Monty: gg
eyez: gg

Server with ETANA2
] viewdemo tfcc9rd1nlv
Playing demo from tfcc9rd1nlv.dem
...
WARNING! Server::ProcessMessage: packet read overflow
...
Last 32 messages parsed.
785079 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785080 0000 svc_time
785080 0005 svc_clientdata
785080 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785082 0000 svc_time
785082 0005 svc_clientdata
785082 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
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785084 0005 svc_clientdata
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785086 0000 svc_time
785086 0005 svc_clientdata
785086 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785086 0115 svc_updateuserinfo
785087 0000 svc_time
785087 0005 svc_clientdata
785087 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785089 0000 svc_time
785089 0005 svc_clientdata
785089 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785091 0000 svc_time
785091 0005 svc_clientdata
785091 0058 svc_deltapacketentities
785091 0135 svc_sound
785095 0000 svc_time
785095 0005 svc_clientdata
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785096 0000 svc_time
785096 0005 svc_clientdata
785096 0022 svc_deltapacketentities
785096 0029 svc_foundsecret
BAD: 30:svc_bad
Host_Error: CL_ParseServerMessage: Illegible server message - svc

Another server with ETANA2
] viewdemo tfcc9rd2nlv
Playing demo from tfcc9rd2nlv.dem.
>
BUILD 3382 SERVER (0 CRC)
Server # 1885

Added 789 resources.
Received baseline with 212 entities.
Received instanced baseline with 63 entities.
Protocol Version 47, Spawn count 1885
WARNING! Server::ProcessMessage: packet read overflow.
...
Last 32 messages parsed.
787311 0132 svc_updateuserinfo
787311 0346 svc_updateuserinfo
787311 0570 svc_updateuserinfo
787311 0785 svc_updateuserinfo
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787313 0005 svc_clientdata
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787313 0134 StatusValue
787313 0138 svc_pings
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787316 0005 svc_clientdata
787316 0051 svc_deltapacketentities
787316 0109 svc_pings
787318 0000 svc_time
787318 0005 svc_clientdata
787318 0007 svc_deltapacketentities
787318 0014 svc_foundsecret
BAD: 15:svc_bad
Host_Error: CL_ParseServerMessage: Illegible server message - svc_bad

[Toastie]

i hope you guys fix the demo error. well i guess you have to, because if people dispute you can't view their demo LOLZ. nice work.

fix it.


playdemo

[di.oof]

playdemo
Suppose there is a clip at 29:05 that you wish to review a few times (be it for POTW or dispute). Do you really think ppl are gonna sit for 29 minutes each time waiting for the clip?

[janordy]

None of my recent UGC demos work cause of fucking ETANA, how could a problem this big be overlooked. Or did the admins not even bother testing this thing before hand.

[Jarek]

i wonder if this is all a 'I WILL SAY ETANA IS CAUSING ME LAG BECAUSE I WANT MY _SPECIAL BACK' situation again

[Fornaught]

None of my recent UGC demos work cause of fucking ETANA, how could a problem this big be overlooked. Or did the admins not even bother testing this thing before hand.


All your demos still work perfectly.

Start a lan game on the same map, go to console, type in 'playdemo demoname.dem' and it will work fine

[fong]

personally i would not like to watch 30 minutes of a demo waiting to see where my parts at only to miss it on accident or some crap while trying to record the avi in bmp format or what not.

so basically fix it.

[di.oof]

Start a lan game on the same map, go to console, type in 'playdemo demoname.dem' and it will work fine

Suppose there is a clip at 29:05 that you wish to review a few times (be it for POTW or dispute). Do you really think ppl are gonna sit for 29 minutes each time waiting for the clip?

In other words, it will take 2.5 hours just to review that part of the demo 5 times. I don't think a dispute or anti-cheat admin has that kind of patience.

[Fornaught]

oh here is a trick, do the playdemo, then while its running, do viewdemo

OR you can do viewdemo first, let it crash, then do playdemo

Either way you get the play controls

[Red_Rabbit]

oh here is a trick, do the playdemo, then while its running, do viewdemo

OR you can do viewdemo first, let it crash, then do playdemo

Either way you get the play controls

Did you even try this before saying it. Because if you had you'd know it doesn't work. Can we please try to get a real solution :(

[jabroni]

my ugc demos dont work with viewdemo, but my sta ones do :\

[fong]

oh here is a trick, do the playdemo, then while its running, do viewdemo

OR you can do viewdemo first, let it crash, then do playdemo

Either way you get the play controls


doesn't work.

[|RES|arod]

I'll never understand why ETANA was updated. There were sooo many people bypassing the old version /sarcasm. It just doesnt make sense. And now viewing demos doesn't work. I would rather have working demos than a working version of ETANA.

[BlackThoughT]

I dont know what you fools are talking about

my demos work fine

[|RES|arod]

all of us must be making this stuff up!

[Fornaught]

I have been able to get every demo recorded on an etana2 server to work fine

1. Start a lan game on the match map
2. Go to console and type "playdemo demoname.dem"

The demo will load and play with no problems. IF you want the viewdemo play control tool, go to console again and type "viewdemo demoname.dem". The demo will restart and this time it does not crash. This has worked for me on every demo from 5 different etana2 servers.


This will not cause us to go back to etana 1 because the improvements are much more important than the incovienience of starting a demo with playdemo.

Also it is an open question whether the fault is etana2 or the HLDS update. The "viewdemo" error can also happen with demos recorded on non etana2 servers.

-----------

IF you want to help solve the problem and you have demos that wont playback with "viewdemo", send me this info

- Your servers HLDS version, either Linux or Windows and the build number
- What metamod version your server uses
- A full list of plugins that are loaded
- what client 'utilities' you might be using

(And if you using a linux client, let me know)

[fong]

I have been able to get every demo recorded on an etana2 server to work fine

1. Start a lan game on the match map
2. Go to console and type "playdemo demoname.dem"

The demo will load and play with no problems. IF you want the viewdemo play control tool, go to console again and type "viewdemo demoname.dem". The demo will restart and this time it does not crash. This has worked for me on every demo from 5 different etana2 servers.


This will not cause us to go back to etana 1 because the improvements are much more important than the incovienience of starting a demo with playdemo.

Also it is an open question whether the fault is etana2 or the HLDS update. The "viewdemo" error can also happen with demos recorded on non etana2 servers.

-----------

IF you want to help solve the problem and you have demos that wont playback with "viewdemo", send me this info

- Your servers HLDS version, either Linux or Windows and the build number
- What metamod version your server uses
- A full list of plugins that are loaded
- what client 'utilities' you might be using

(And if you using a linux client, let me know)


i have tried this on 10 of my enana2 demos, none work.

[Tercel]

i have tried this on 10 of my enana2 demos, none work.

^^^

Tried it on 3 of my demos and didnt work for any of them

[Fornaught]

What didnt work - playdemo didnt work at all, or you couldnt get the viewdemo tool to work?

[fong]

"I have been able to get every demo recorded on an etana2 server to work fine

1. Start a lan game on the match map
2. Go to console and type "playdemo demoname.dem"

The demo will load and play with no problems. IF you want the viewdemo play control tool, go to console again and type "viewdemo demoname.dem". The demo will restart and this time it does not crash. This has worked for me on every demo from 5 different etana2 servers.


This will not cause us to go back to etana 1 because the improvements are much more important than the incovienience of starting a demo with playdemo.

Also it is an open question whether the fault is etana2 or the HLDS update. The "viewdemo" error can also happen with demos recorded on non etana2 servers."


THAT DOES NOT WORK. go back to etana 1/nothing/or fix it.

[Bookrat]

Fong/Tercel, I don't see the information that Fornaught requested posted anywhere...

IF you want to help solve the problem and you have demos that wont playback with "viewdemo", send me this info

- Your servers HLDS version, either Linux or Windows and the build number
- What metamod version your server uses
- A full list of plugins that are loaded
- what client 'utilities' you might be using

(And if you using a linux client, let me know)
(I know he said to send it to him personally, but since you're claiming it affects every league and every league match, may as well post it where all league admins can see it. More eyeballs = more ideas.)

Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!" doesn't do much towards pinpointing the problem...

[Stylez]

We all know that playdemo works fine, what we want is viewdemo so we can rewind, pause, etc.

[fong]

- Your servers HLDS version, either Linux or Windows and the build number
- What metamod version your server uses
- A full list of plugins that are loaded
- what client 'utilities' you might be using

(And if you using a linux client, let me know)
almost every server is different that matches are played on, so thats a really dumb question


maybe Jomma the leader of #adlpickup will post the server info. but until then i dont know jack shit on any of that :).

[red baron]

http://www2.gren2.com/fong/etana.avi

[fong]

either fix it, get rid of it, or go back to regular etana. :)

[Red_Rabbit]

I have been able to get every demo recorded on an etana2 server to work fine

1. Start a lan game on the match map
2. Go to console and type "playdemo demoname.dem"

The demo will load and play with no problems. IF you want the viewdemo play control tool, go to console again and type "viewdemo demoname.dem". The demo will restart and this time it does not crash. This has worked for me on every demo from 5 different etana2 servers.


This will not cause us to go back to etana 1 because the improvements are much more important than the incovienience of starting a demo with playdemo.

Also it is an open question whether the fault is etana2 or the HLDS update. The "viewdemo" error can also happen with demos recorded on non etana2 servers.


So basically you are admitting that etana2 messed up demos, well thats a good first step, now we just need to fix it. Really what sense does it make to have to first playdemo, then viewdemo....even if doing this worked.

[red baron]

It doesn't.

[fong]

why is it doing this fornaught do you even know? D: it seems as though many would prefer this etana2 junk not to have even came out. i myself would rather have demos working than someone using some bypassed clear explosions on me LOLZ :D

[Fornaught]

All I know is that I do not have a problem, you do. My demos work fine using the method I posted.

So since you can't help track the cause of the problem in any way whatsoever, have your clan leader or server admin contact me via the STA Clan Captains forum. And ask him to provide the details I requested.

[donn]

demos dont work with viewdemo for me either, even using the trick posted with playdemo first

:mad:

[red baron]

Everyone but me has a problem with playing demos, therefore there is no problem roflcakes :D
.

[Tercel]

All I know is that I do not have a problem, you do. My demos work fine using the method I posted.

so basically, since your demos work fine the large population of people who cant use the viewdemo command should be disregarded?

[ricky]

no one watches demos

[|RES|arod]

Your trick does not work. Would you like me to send you the demos to prove this or are you going to continue to deny the mistake STA made?

edit: new version of metamod p28
no other plugins are loaded
hlds version: newest Exe build: 21:57:36 Feb 8 2006 (3382)

[Fornaught]

so basically, since your demos work fine the large population of people who cant use the viewdemo command should be disregarded?

How do you see anything being disregarded? Maybe you expect me to push the "easy" button for you?

Obviously there is a problem somewhere, and that makes it hard for you to make avi's from demos. Since playdemo works for all and viewdemo works for some, the anti-cheat reason for personal demos is still covered. And etana2 still provides a required function and is still required on sta servers. There is no other solution than that, we wont be reverting to etana1 unless some drastic new information is found.

Get some details on your server configurations, have your capt post them on our forums so that the people working on solutions have as much info as possible. Be part of the solution if you want to help. If you just want to find a way to get us to revert etana2 for whatever your reason, then your sol.

The sooner you do this, the sooner it can be fixed. The plugin will be updated if it is the cause.

[AGT-Shady]

What is it about version #2 that is so appealing Forn?

[fong]

i really dont see how your demos can work and ours cant forn. :\


join 66.150.214.168:27015 #adlpickup on IRC Gamesurge // pw: pickup

record for a few minutes, 'watch it' since you can and all with viewdemo.

what a crock :)

[di.oof]

I tried the playdemo then viewdemo suggestion and it didn't work. It appears to puke when the .dem file is fully buffered. So, viewdemo might appear to work when one first runs it, but one has to wait a little bit for the entire file to buffer before coming to the conclusion that it does/doesn't work.

Since the crash occurs once the end of the file is buffered (you can see the full ingame dialogue scroll rapidly thru the console as the file is buffering, regardless of the video playback), and the fact that the end of demos occur when I leave the server, and the fact that the error is SVC_BAD (netcode-related), I am wondering if things get borked when I disconnect from the server. You should understand that I almost NEVER type "stop" when I record demos. Perhaps demos where one types "stop" before "disconnect" work ok because the whole disconnection process from the server running ETANA2 and related info doesn't get into the demo.

[janordy]

We get it, playdemo works. The most important, viewdemo does not work under any circumstance. Now you are basicly saying "Works for us, fuck you guys, you still have playdemo stop complaining". Alright Mr. Sunshine how about this, everytime someone wants to watch a demo for any reason they come to you guys and you turn the entire demo into a avi so they can view any part without having to sit through whole thing. If anyone wants to make a avi they come to you and you make it for them or provide them with the raw BMPs. One reason why you guys get cheating demos is because opposing teams check the demos themselves before submiting which won't happen anymore. People will also delete their demos now right after match or not even record at all. Anytime you go to ask someone for their demo now they will just say "Oh it didnt work so I just deleted it". Fix the current problem or go back to old one. Id rather play aganst a few people cheating then have no demos and way more people cheating because of that.

[MoonGuardian]

ETANA2 is doing a lot of good. It helps keep shitty avi's from coming out every day. WHOOPS.

no, the good out weighs the bad. I'll try skipping around from server to server trying it out.

[fong]

if only it came out before potw 47 LOLZ .

but seriously its retarded that you claim only you're demos work and no one elses does

[Fornaught]

That's life, try to have some patience and hopefully no matter what the cause is, it will get fixed.

So far, the problem seems to be happening with Windows HLDS servers (like fongs and arod's servers), not Linux ones. So if you have any info to help narrow this down, please do so. The only way we can do it is with your help.


IF you want to help solve the problem and you have demos that wont playback with "viewdemo", send me this info

- Your servers HLDS version, either Linux or Windows and the build number
- What metamod version your server uses
- A full list of plugins that are loaded
- what client 'utilities' you might be using
(And if you using a linux client, let me know)
Please do that on the STA Captains Forums, so that it can be collected without wasting time.

[red baron]

Heya,

Thanks for your email, I heard about this problem earlier this week and I'm going to take a look at it this weekend. Hopefully it shouldn't take too long to fix.

Gavin

red baron wrote:
Hi

Anyway. I had a question for you about ETANA2.

I'm not sure, but it does say your name on the plugin, so I'm just guessing that it was you that coded the plugin.

If that is indeed the case, I'm sure you already know about the plugins' problem with making recorded demos not work with the "viewdemo" command. I was wondering if you are doing anything to recode the plugin so as to enable this feature once again.

Thanks for your time.
There is hope. I received this Friday.

[fong]

There is hope. I received this Friday.


excellent

[wraithforger]

I just reviewed my personal from the UGC match tonite (1st time I've even looked at one since the "new" ETANA). The round was played on my NFO server which is up-to-date.

I had absolutely NO problems watching my demo with "viewdemo".

There seems to be a problem with some, but it apparently is inconsistent and is not specifically related to ETANA.

NOTE: if it has any bearing, I don't start recording until about 30 secs left in pm...if map is restarted, I stop recording and restart (we've seen what happens in the past otherwise)

[Kueller]

Maybe what we should have on the STA forums, in addition to bug reports, is a POLL on who wants ETANA2/no demos vs. ETANA/working demos. If and when ETANA2 is no longer a buggy piece of alpha software, we can give it another shot.

[Fornaught]

Kueller you are missing the point, and what you are posting is incorrect.
Personal demos still work via the playdemo function and so from a league perspective there is zero need to change from ETANA2. ETANA2 is required, and will continue to be required.

If you making avi's and are concerned with viewdemo function, then that will get fixed eventually. Until then use HLTV demos to make POTW recordings or be patient and wait for a fix when the actual cause is found.

[MightyMouse]

So when disputing, are we supose to take HLTV times or is it pointless since you will be watching the whole demo anywayse

[Fornaught]

mighty mouse

Two kinds of disputes
Regular disputes - (like gameplay, max D, etc) we usually watch the HLTV anyway. And we watch the whole round or match. We need HLTV times to pinpoint your specific complaint.
Cheating disputes - The AC admins will need HLTV and personal demos. In that case you could help them by giving HLTV times, but they still need the personal demo for many reasons.

[Red_Rabbit]

Why was this pushed before it was ready though, would it really have mattered if we waited 2 or 3 weeks for them to fix the problem?

[Fornaught]

You are misinformed, there was no rush.
It was a new problem that appeared in Oct, the plugin was in use with no such problems on many servers since July. All STA Clan Captains were asked to begin updating their servers in August, no one was rushed and no problems were found until last week.


Anyhow try recording on your servers again, mine is working fine now.

[red baron]

I did some tests with Fong. As some of you are aware there was a steam update recently. Both of our match personals worked, and later we went into a server that had previously been unable to produce demos that worked with the viewdemo command. This time however, both of our demos work.

Have there been any instances of demos not working at any time past this Sunday? It may have been a steam error that's been fixed through this recent update.

[MoonGuardian]

correct, OR, its a hit or miss problem, we need to keep looking into it. Keep giving information to admins, and helping them out.

[MrSparkle]

Whatever Valve broke with the Oct update seems to have been fixed. Viewdemo works for me.

[di.oof]

Update: Our Nuclear Fallout server had ETANA2 installed in time for ADL last night. All of my personal demos recorded during that time work.

[kilo]

lol seems like mase has released a new pp with clear explosions

[Bluefire]

Damn you, banning ax1, that rocked.

Oh wait, I did. :(

[di.oof]

Steam Update: * Fixed viewdemo command not working correctly with some demos

It's all good now. :)