Real FFXII Thread

[pho-nam]

Unlike the other thread which is about the "leaked version" of FFXII... This is for all hte regular players who are getting the real game tomorrow!!! Weee..... finally the long long wait is over!!! I am ready to play a huge marathon session tomorrow as long as it ships up here in Vancouver tomorrow *crosses fingers*

I have not been this excited for a game in the longest time... Quite possibly ever! from my Japanese friend who has played and finished this game already, he has assured me, it is quite possibly "one of the greatest adventures you will ever take" lol

Anybody else getting this game opening day tomorrow?

[Dion]

The leaked verison was the retail.

[_MJ_]

lol

[mars-]

I got mine today. I haven't had any time to play it yet though. Maybe later tonight after work. But I want to be able to play it for a few hours the first time so I might have to wait until tomorrow night.

[m1lkman]

I got mine today at like 11:30 and played almost 2 hours before I had to work. Only level 3 there is tons of cinematics and stuff at the beginning and running around the first town. Ill be playing all day after I get out of school tomorrow at 2. Seems amazing so far. :)

[Andy]

so for you guys that have the game. how far are you right now? right now, i just got out of the dungeon and back in town.

[sd-]

I'm like 12 hours in and on the Leviathan ship

[Andy]

ah im 6 hours in and im really close to it.

[Freakle]

8 hours in...just finished beating mimc queen....did a bunch of powerleveling...was kind of obsessed with filling in attribute bonus part of license board

[m1lkman]

I think im still under 10 and I just got to Ogir-Yensa Sandsea... Most of my guys are LVL 13-14. I guess thats about normal?

[Implode`m3]

so...so far is it a disapointment...or is it fantastic?
knowing square I can only asume the gfx and animation is amazing...yet how is the gameplay and story?

[Andy]

storyline isnt too bad. im level 16, 9 some hours in and in the tomb of king raithwall.

[Fivestar]

I spent a lot of time leveling up when I got it b/c I didn't want to move on because of time constraints in RL.

You can get really strong if you know where to level up at in the game. I'm at Nalbina Fortress now and I'm at level 40 for Vaan, roughly 37 for everyone else. If anything, do trial and error and look for all the HP bonuses and Mist Knacks on the License Board.

I have 3 mist knacks for everyone and I think im about 3/5 done in the game. Your MP also triples, so my real MP should be 90. With 3 mist knacks for one person, your MP would triple to around ~280. I can take boss guys out now without them even getting a hit on me since I string together like 6+ mist knacks, then I get a special for doing a certain string that finishes the guy off. I do it with the first group and then bring in the second group to do it.

[Freakle]

2 questions....

1. How the fuck do i use vaans red spiral mist knack?

2. Is there a way to shrink the screen inwards (i know there is way to move it) because not everything fits onto my screen. For example, i either have to choose to not be able to see name of place I am at (annoying for hunts) at top left of map, or I cant see the bottom person atb gauge (or get a full view of red spiral mist knack bar)
help

[sd-]

I'm now level 22 with everyone and trying to do all the damn hunts after raithwalls tomb. I have like 25 hours

[Fivestar]

2 questions....

1. How the fuck do i use vaans red spiral mist knack?

2. Is there a way to shrink the screen inwards (i know there is way to move it) because not everything fits onto my screen. For example, i either have to choose to not be able to see name of place I am at (annoying for hunts) at top left of map, or I cant see the bottom person atb gauge (or get a full view of red spiral mist knack bar)
help

1. Have you unlocked it yet through the License Board? If so, you should be able to use it in battle. Bring up the menu and go to Mist. When it goes to the motion screen, you should do it there it hit the button assigned for it.

2. Not sure if you can shrink the screen, you can try going to options and seeing what they have for it.

[Freakle]

nonono i know how to get it....i do not know what to do once i select it in battle....i see a bar at the bottom of the screen and usually i just press random buttons...what am i SUPPOSED to do

[Fivestar]

There is a timer that is counting down. You have to try to do as many mist knacks as possible (one after every cutscene). Say I have a group of 3, each with a mist knack. I start the cutscene, names will be assigned by either triangle, square, or x beside it. You have to hit whichever key that comes up that you want to do. If you don't see any shape (triangle/square/x), hit the R2 button to keep shuffling till it comes up. You probably can't do but 1 or 2 hits with 1 mist knack.

[beef_jerky]

There is a timer that is counting down. You have to try to do as many mist knacks as possible (one after every cutscene). Say I have a group of 3, each with a mist knack. I start the cutscene, names will be assigned by either triangle, square, or x beside it. You have to hit whichever key that comes up that you want to do. If you don't see any shape (triangle/square/x), hit the R2 button to keep shuffling till it comes up. You probably can't do but 1 or 2 hits with 1 mist knack.
do they ever describe this in the game? it seems like a very undescerning feature that they just kind of throw at you, like a lot of things in ff, imo.

[Magus]

I am avoiding this so that I can devote fully my time to Zelda:TP.

[Fivestar]

do they ever describe this in the game? it seems like a very undescerning feature that they just kind of throw at you, like a lot of things in ff, imo.

They sort of do, but not really lol. It's really easy when you do it a few times though, you get the hang of it. Cause you will need to chain some together for some bosses to beat them. I know there's one boss you must chain together or there's no way to beat it.

Sometimes it's a hit or miss where you think you can finish off the boss with it, but you don't. Then you are out of MP so you will probably die unless you Charge a lot and hope it works (make sure you pick up Charge on the License Board and buy it at the shop). So it takes some strategy and timing, which is good for the game because it's not a cake walk like most RPGs.

[_MJ_]

don't open some chest or you wont get the strongest weapon in the game.
go on gamefaqs to see which ones not to open

[Freakle]

turtle in mines raped my shit even after 6700 hp knack combo :(

[consolecrusader]

Unlike the other thread which is about the "leaked version" of FFXII

heh leaked was retail......

Anyway glad you are all having fun with the game...I am about 35 hours in its a great game but still lacks that old FF feel...Kinda feel like I am playing WOW on most occassions..

[atheist]

Just got the game starting the hunts in the beginning city.. the only thing I don't really like is the whole like action bar wait thing thought it be more interesting, but the graphics are amazing and story line sort of corny but enjoyable.

[Freakle]

yea so since the mine ive been raping everything in sight [plot bosses and hunts] with quickenings - all my characters have 2 -- balth has 3 -- hopefully this wont be as cheap in the future. YES I REFUSE TO HANDICAP MYSELF AND NOT USE THEM LOLZZZZ

ps everone is lvl 22 at beginning of tomb -- too much?

[InnerFury]

lol i was like 12 at tomb

[grens]

i just got the game, its fun. im like 6 hours in and im lvl 4 lol. i been obessed with exploring and doing those marks. I got raped by the third mark, fucking got blind. the LP thing gets a bit confusing.

some beginner questions...

1. Whats the difference between heavy and light armour. For instance, if i have a bow can i only use light armour?

2. I was reading the booklet and it said make sure you know the details of the weapon, like the range. Where do i go to find out the range of the weapon? When i go to the buy screen it doesnt say. just says (1H) and the damage power.

3. Sometimes ill get 2-3 hits in at once in one attack. Is that random or did i hit a button that i didnt know i hit that makes it do that?

[K2`]

Game rocks to hell, I'm around lvl. 35 at about 33 hours in. The challenge is actually paced pretty well; trust me, you WON'T be able to just rampage through bosses with mist combos forever.

[beef_jerky]

i gave it a chance, the game is just bad. there are so many things wrong with it, i can't name them all. put in ffix, havnt touched it since i beat it 6 years ago and im having much more fun.

[sd-]

The game isn't bad at all, wtf. Just cause you couldn't understand knacks :\ I'm now lvl 33 with all characters and 42 hours in.

[beef_jerky]

what's not to understand? when i asked before, i had only acquired a couple. i was(edit: am now) almost 50 hours in and almost lvl 40.

[grens]

i just got the game, its fun. im like 6 hours in and im lvl 4 lol. i been obessed with exploring and doing those marks. I got raped by the third mark, fucking got blind. the LP thing gets a bit confusing.

some beginner questions...

1. Whats the difference between heavy and light armour. For instance, if i have a bow can i only use light armour?

2. I was reading the booklet and it said make sure you know the details of the weapon, like the range. Where do i go to find out the range of the weapon? When i go to the buy screen it doesnt say. just says (1H) and the damage power.

3. Sometimes ill get 2-3 hits in at once in one attack. Is that random or did i hit a button that i didnt know i hit that makes it do that?

anyone? lol

[Fivestar]

1. Whats the difference between heavy and light armour. For instance, if i have a bow can i only use light armour?

You can use light armour or heavy armour with any weapon. I haven't had any limitations. You will get more out of light armour than heavy armour throughout most of the game. Only towards end will you heavy armour benefit you more.

2. I was reading the booklet and it said make sure you know the details of the weapon, like the range. Where do i go to find out the range of the weapon? When i go to the buy screen it doesnt say. just says (1H) and the damage power.

Never tried to look for that, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Most of the enemies you will fight will be in close enough range for bows/guns to work.

3. Sometimes ill get 2-3 hits in at once in one attack. Is that random or did i hit a button that i didnt know i hit that makes it do that?

As far as I know, it is random. Possibly it could be from counter attacks, but I don't think it is.

[grens]

cool thanks!

[grens]

is it normal to be lvl 10, just got out of the mines on that sky city WITHOUT any mist and quickens? because i have yet to find anything on the LP about them...

[andr3w]

i think u should lvl a tad, the next boss fight judge ghris could probably be an ass hat if are a tad bit low

[grens]

yeah, i been lvling down at the mines for awhile. im lvl 13/12 and only got 1 mist knack. im trying to get a few more LP points to get at least 1 mist knack for each character, then ill continue.

[Jarek]

please stop posting spoilers without a warning, thanks

any i pretty much grinded in the mines for like 3 hours without realizing how long it was, the game is so smooth its easy to lose track of time.

got like a 56 chain on skels on some bridge there, was pretty easy too

[Freakle]

100 skeleton chains with the undead grimoire will become your best friend

[grens]

how do chains work?

[andr3w]

killin mobs of the same type

[grens]

oh, thought there was something more complex.

one more problem...penelo has had silence casted on her for pretty much the whole time shes been in my party. i used all those thing, forget what they are called, to get rid of silence, but they all miss.

[Jarek]

100 skeleton chains with the undead grimoire will become your best friend

yea im freakin pissed, i just bought the guide today AFTER i had been grinding on that bridge where theres like endless skeles for like 5 hours... is there a special drop at 100 or something tho? i always got to like 60ish and the skels stop spawning for a while

edit: theres a few things u can do to get rid of silence, echo screens (i think) is one and vox is anohter, or u could use rose corsage

[Andy]

oh, thought there was something more complex.

one more problem...penelo has had silence casted on her for pretty much the whole time shes been in my party. i used all those thing, forget what they are called, to get rid of silence, but they all miss.
because you have an accessory equipped on her that does that.

[Jarek]

R O F L

if you guys have the game guide and have read about the odds of getting the zodiac spear from that chest, its 1/1000 chance if you do the numbers

my brother got it his second try. MOTHER FUCKER

i am not that far yet so i dono.

[pho-nam]

To those asking about mist quickenings being powerful... oh boy you wait until later in the game where I dont even attempt to use them as they barely damage the bosses... I may use them if the boss is in beserk mode and is almost dead

[StU]

R O F L

if you guys have the game guide and have read about the odds of getting the zodiac spear from that chest, its 1/1000 chance if you do the numbers

my brother got it his second try. MOTHER FUCKER

i am not that far yet so i dono.

i saw one person on another forums say they got it on the fourth try and decided to go for a 2nd one...only to go 45hrs+ without gettin another, lol

where is this 1/1000 chest btw? im wonderin if i can get a 2nd one since i got mine from the 100% chest

[Freakle]

i just got the spear before going to salikawood (aka way earlier than i should have), bomb king was a bitch, and so was running thru the high level areas after to get to spear.....its nice :b

[Jarek]

i saw one person on another forums say they got it on the fourth try and decided to go for a 2nd one...only to go 45hrs+ without gettin another, lol

where is this 1/1000 chest btw? im wonderin if i can get a 2nd one since i got mine from the 100% chest

i just found out why he didnt get it the first 3 tries. you cannot get it with the diamond armlet equipped apparently, and provided you did not touch the other chests you should be able to get it right away so long as you do not have the armlet on.

[Fivestar]

Stu is a cheater. Off with his head.

[Jarek]

son of a mother!

how do i get to White Mousse in the Garamsythe waterway, i am trying to get the Yoichi bow before i head out to Draklor Laboratory

[Freakle]

i gave some 1 the dagger that causes beserk so he was berserked whole time....as long as u have protect/bubble its easy....i think hes vulnerable to slow as well [and maybe fire? basch with flametung = :b )

[K2`]

son of a mother!

how do i get to White Mousse in the Garamsythe waterway, i am trying to get the Yoichi bow before i head out to Draklor Laboratory
Check the hunt text in your clan primer, it'll tell you what area to find him.

[sd-]

lol @ people using game guides

what fun is the game when you get a weapon at level 5 thats the most powerful in the game. expecially when you didnt figure out to get it by urself :confused:

[InnerFury]

i dont have total experience with this game, dotn know about endgame weapons and such. I do like however that atleast halfwayish through the game there isnt anything like ultima or such and the summon / knacks have to be used tactically. I really enjoy the hunts and usually fun / interesting. even though doing the level 40ish creatures at high 20s leads to about 20 minute epic battles lol. does anyone know if there is anything like the ffx creature tamer guy that mixed animals for super hard fights? that was hands down my fav part of ffx.

[Bad Luck]

Does anyone else get really bored with this game every 2 hours they play it?

[sd-]

Yes, I played all the way up to pharos and then just kinda gave up, its pretty repetative

[Jarek]

i havent been playing at all lately, i still enjoy it but i just did a bunch of hunts and am about to go through what my brother told me is a 3 hour treck just to get to Archades, so i've been playing Medieval 2 Total War in my spare time

[Freakle]

after draklor ive been doing nothing but hunts....im trying to get myself ready for

SPOILER KINd OFFF



gilgamesh

[K2`]

Been ready for the last area for a while now but have been completing tons of hunts. I'm up to around 37 complete I think.

There are seriously a crapload of sidequests in this game; I'm currently at 70+ hours with plenty left to do (e.g. I only have 5-6 espers).

[Bad Luck]

Why do hammers/axes have such a wide range of hit points in battle? One hit will be 2000+, the next will be like 80...

[InnerFury]

random variable, and maybe a lack of catering to players strengths with weapons strengths?


The axe and hammer class offers huge attack power with a twist: the damage
variance is far less consistent than compared to other weapons. Although a
sword may consistently strike a foe for 400-500 HP, an axe or hammer may strike
that same foe for 800 HP or 30 HP! For this class of weapons, the weapon damage
is determined by the following: your character's strength and vitality, the
weapon's attack rating, and the enemy's defense. All axes add 6 to Evasion,
while all hammers add 2 to Evasion. Axes also attack slightly faster than
hammers.