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Telos
June 28th, 2007, 07:06 PM
Of course we know who is gonna go 1 and 2, Horford is projected to go 3, assuming no crazy super ridiculous trade happens, but with this draft its pretty deep with a lot of talent.

So what did your team need and how did they do? I think the Bulls are in a spot to do really well for themselves.

Finchie
June 28th, 2007, 07:07 PM
warriors need to get yi.

or warrior fans anyway.


asian warrior fans.

Telos
June 28th, 2007, 07:32 PM
omg, Noah looks absolutely fucking ridiculus. I love it.

blah
June 28th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Please, please let the ridiculous trade rumors sending Amare to Charlotte be true. Please!

On a more serious note, I realize it will never happen and we're going to pick Brandan Wright.

Telos
June 28th, 2007, 07:46 PM
And the Seattle/Boston trade is official. Poor Boston gets yet another shitty year.

Sid6.7
June 28th, 2007, 07:48 PM
oh god i cant wait till tommorrow's simmons!

blah
June 28th, 2007, 08:04 PM
GJ Bucks, way to start an international incident.

blah
June 28th, 2007, 08:08 PM
Two months ago Boston was hoping to get lucky and get Oden or Durant. Now they have somehow parlayed their lottery pick, Wally, and Delonte West into Ray Allen. GJ tanking. ESPN should send someone to Simmons' house just to make sure he's okay.

Realistically though, it's not the end of the world. They didn't give up Jefferson, they got another vet, maybe Pierce will stay. Overall though, I just don't understand why they don't just blow it up, trade Pierce, and build around Jefferson.

blah
June 28th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Bilas just opined that our pick "runs the floor like a deer." Seriously? Seriously?!?

AGT-Shady
June 28th, 2007, 08:30 PM
I kinda disagree, I think both sides made out in that Celtic trade. You need 3 major pieces to win a championship in most cases, and their big 3 is now damn strong.

KewK
June 28th, 2007, 09:09 PM
And the Seattle/Boston trade is official. Poor Boston gets yet another shitty year.

I dunno..I like the jefferson/allen/pierce combo in the east.

Capita
June 28th, 2007, 09:20 PM
wow, big trade for Portland/NY

Colli
June 28th, 2007, 09:50 PM
warriors need to get yi.

or warrior fans anyway.


asian warrior fans.

hell yeah finch

Scorcher
June 28th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Sigh, thank you Charlotte for bringing in another UNC player, makes it so much easier to root for you. And they also draft one of the biggest pricks from college basketball. I hate our front office. If Emeka Okafor wasn't on the team I wouldn't be interested in the bobcats at all.

decap
June 28th, 2007, 10:34 PM
spencer hawes, great, another oafy, unatheletic, no post presence 7 foot center. great choice, kings.

mulisha
June 29th, 2007, 01:32 AM
So the Lakers draft another project PG, make no moves, and see everyone around them improve. woohoo. :rolleyes:

AGT-Shady
June 29th, 2007, 03:32 AM
^Yeah I don't know wtf they're doing over there, no trades and a shitty draft pick, the franchise that just barely has it's head above water is about to turn into the Celtics of the last decade.

That and the West is just RIDICULOUS now, Seattle has a team for the next decade and Portland is fucking STACKED.

Aic
June 29th, 2007, 04:00 AM
Morey better have some big trade in the works or I will be a sad panda.

shaggy
June 29th, 2007, 07:44 AM
Time to become a T wolves fan!!!! I love Brewer. Side note, how about dem gators with 3 boys in the top 10.

shp
June 29th, 2007, 08:11 AM
warriors need to get yi.

or warrior fans anyway.


asian warrior fans.

Most, well some, dubs fans like myself want no part of Yi. I'm happy with Brandan Wright and would be more happy if we somehow get KG out of this.

Suicidal Anomaly
June 29th, 2007, 10:39 AM
So the Lakers draft another project PG, make no moves, and see everyone around them improve. woohoo. :rolleyes:

Sad but true. The PG they draft is more of a project then anything (a lot of guys drafted are but that's the first thing they say about him) and follow it up with two international guys who might not even ever sniff the NBA. If they don't acquire some help or move Kobe this is going to be a crappy season.

As far as Portland goes I have to give them props because they're doing a great job building a team for the next 5-10 years, same with Seattle. Seeing what Boston did bringing in a 32 year old all star to try and help Pierce has me worried that the Lakers will make a move like that if any. Celtics definitely made their team better now but even in the East they'll be hard pressed to get past the heat, bulls, pistons and cavs.

Magus
June 29th, 2007, 10:48 AM
The Sixers did squat. I thought when Milwaukee picked Yi, there might be a chance it was a deal with the Sixers. Now I think Yi will end up in Golden State.

Thaddeus Young doesn't excite me, nor does Jason Smith. We should've taken Nick Young to play the 2, and then Tiago Splitter at 21. Let him stay, we aren't winning this year anyhow. And Chris Richards in the second round. Instead we have shit and a 7 footer that will never be in the NBA.

Sutterkane
June 29th, 2007, 11:02 AM
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2752/noahel5.jpg

best draft shot of any major sports draft ever. best suit ever too.

stas
June 29th, 2007, 11:33 AM
im thrilled. we got another project c/f in tiago, which is all we (SA) ever seem to draft. can you tell pop is trying to get someone to replace duncan in a few years? the nice thing is we have time, plus hes got projected lottery potential. i think he was a steal as low as we got him, for as much hype as hes gotten the past few years. then we take williams, we'll see how he does.

mulisha
June 29th, 2007, 12:11 PM
^Yeah I don't know wtf they're doing over there, no trades and a shitty draft pick, the franchise that just barely has it's head above water is about to turn into the Celtics of the last decade.

That and the West is just RIDICULOUS now, Seattle has a team for the next decade and Portland is fucking STACKED.

I mean, it's a great value pick if the Lakers were looking to rebuild. However, if they want to win now and build around Kobe, it was a terrible pick. (Now you know why Kobe is fed up with management though). I just hope it's part of a package for a trade in the near future.

Mercenary-VD
June 29th, 2007, 12:24 PM
im thrilled. we got another project c/f in tiago, which is all we (SA) ever seem to draft. can you tell pop is trying to get someone to replace duncan in a few years? the nice thing is we have time, plus hes got projected lottery potential. i think he was a steal as low as we got him, for as much hype as hes gotten the past few years. then we take williams, we'll see how he does.

Tiago will never come close to replacing Duncan but he is a solid defender and rebounder. If they decide to buy out his contract then he'll be a good replacement for Oberto, and if not he'll be a welcome addition to the roster next year.

The Sixers did squat.

They tried to move up in the draft but no one wanted to accept Andre Millers contract/Defensive prowess (lolz).

Time to become a T wolves fan!!!! I love Brewer. Side note, how about dem gators with 3 boys in the top 10.

Brewer is sick, now all they need to go do is get it in the coachs head that Foye and Brewer need at least 30+ minutes a night.

Realistically though, it's not the end of the world. They didn't give up Jefferson, they got another vet, maybe Pierce will stay. Overall though, I just don't understand why they don't just blow it up, trade Pierce, and build around Jefferson.

Boston gave up a great pick for a proven talent, Sczcerbiak was clearly thrown into the deal to make the salaries work. At this point his ability on the court is almost negligible because of the multitude of sugeries he underwent last year. I like West but his injuries concerns throw me off, he's obviously talented in alot of areas but he's got a bad back and seems oft-injured. In the end I think this fits both teams pretty well. Bostons alleviates alot of confusion at the one and two which will likely benefit Rondo. Seattle gets a versitile guard in West who will take over for the lackluster Ridnour/Watson combo. West combines the best aspects of both Watson and Ridnour so it could work out pretty well, plus they get Jeff Green who was the Hoyas.

|RES|arod
June 29th, 2007, 12:43 PM
Why on earth did memphis go with Conneley with their 4th pick? He shined in college because he had a 7 foot monster setting screens for him. This is why I hate the draft now. Too many teams value "potential" more than proven success. Give me the hardworking senior that is playing his heart out over the potential freshman who might be ready for the NBA.

stas
June 29th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Tiago will never come close to replacing Duncan but he is a solid defender and rebounder. If they decide to buy out his contract then he'll be a good replacement for Oberto, and if not he'll be a welcome addition to the roster next year.

dont get me wrong, i know we wont replace duncan. hes a rare gift that comes a long only once every decade, if that. i like the fact that pop is trying to strengthen our depth in the middle and develop a talent that our offense can work around.

Magus
June 29th, 2007, 02:58 PM
Splitter isn't a "project." He could play tomorrow in the NBA. He's a known commodity, a defensive big man who can block shots and doesn't have much of an offensive game. He'll fit in well in SA.

Wyrm
June 29th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Wait, Tiago Splitter was actually drafted?! I've seen his name on the nbadraft.net site for like the past 5 years it seems.

pho-nam
June 29th, 2007, 03:09 PM
I understand Seattle's reasoning behind the whole deal to get the #5 pick... but what i don't understand is they are rebuilding their team with the same concept in mind when they had allen and shard... good wing players but no threats down low and a horrible defensive team that can't rebound... Durant was a no-brainer but did they need to draft green?

Also what is atlanta gonna do with all those players at the 2/3/4 spot? someone has to be traded soon... i did like the fact that they passed up on conley knowing they could still get a very productive pg at the 11spot but bringing in horford doesn't really help their situation

And why did milwaukee pick Yi??? Do they really expect a charlie v, yi, bogut combo to work??? Notice that none of them can grab boards/block or play a lick of d

Portland looks sick in a couple of years, now if only they could get a pg... seems as though francis is gonna get bought out

stas
June 29th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Splitter isn't a "project." He could play tomorrow in the NBA. He's a known commodity, a defensive big man who can block shots and doesn't have much of an offensive game. He'll fit in well in SA.

you dont think developing an offensive game is a project? ;)

Nightwish
June 29th, 2007, 04:24 PM
Dear Lakers,

Please for the love of God and all that's holy, FIRE MITCH KUPCHAK!!!!

Seriously, a fucking can of spraypaint would make a better GM.

chi-town
June 29th, 2007, 04:59 PM
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2752/noahel5.jpg

best draft shot of any major sports draft ever. best suit ever too.

I don't understand why paxson drafted him...everyone knows the bulls need a inside presence so unless paxson is using him as bait I think this was a bad pick.

greenbeard
June 29th, 2007, 05:08 PM
I don't understand why paxson drafted him...everyone knows the bulls need a inside presence so unless paxson is using him as bait I think this was a bad pick.


All he does is go to the basket.

Mercenary-VD
June 29th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Also what is atlanta gonna do with all those players at the 2/3/4 spot? someone has to be traded soon... i did like the fact that they passed up on conley knowing they could still get a very productive pg at the 11spot but bringing in horford doesn't really help their situation

Same thing as they've done for the last two or three years!!

Portland looks sick in a couple of years, now if only they could get a pg... seems as though francis is gonna get bought out

I'm thinking the same, Francis makes no sense on Portland. Maybe they'll let him play some of the year to see how it pans out, or maybe they'll buy him out right away. Either way, buying out francis creates alot of space to work with, they'll have to find the right PG for a team that really wants to push the development of young talent -- a pass first kinda guy.

mulisha
June 29th, 2007, 07:27 PM
I'm thinking the same, Francis makes no sense on Portland. Maybe they'll let him play some of the year to see how it pans out, or maybe they'll buy him out right away. Either way, buying out francis creates alot of space to work with, they'll have to find the right PG for a team that really wants to push the development of young talent -- a pass first kinda guy.

They are buying him out. It must be nice to have Paul Allen as an owner :(

puppychow
June 29th, 2007, 08:46 PM
which team quietly did very good that is not getting press/pub outside of port/sea/knicks?

AGT-Shady
June 29th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Bibby would be a pretty good fit they can afford.

Count
June 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM
oh god i cant wait till tommorrow's simmons!

<3 the sports guy

arod, they took conley because he is the best PG in the draft? maybe?..many think he could have easily gone third.

Mercenary-VD
June 30th, 2007, 08:54 AM
which team quietly did very good that is not getting press/pub outside of port/sea/knicks?

I don't think any team really 'quietly' did well, the picks pretty much went in order and outside of the teams you mentioned the only other teams that were involved in trading were the Celts, Bobcats and Warriors. The jury is still out on that J. Rich trade. The Spurs did a good job picking up lottery type talent, anytime you can get a long, athletic big late in the first you're doing well.

I'm really unsure about this Knicks trade, from Portlands standpoint making the trade was obvious. They have an offensively geared big comming off his best season to date, slated to make 60 million over the next 4, he's occasionally injured and has a bad attitude. Portland wants to clear space for the upcomming years and wants to retain their depth at PF. However, for the Knicks I don't think the trade is as obvious. They get rid of a big contract for a longer, larger contract. Furthermore, the only thing Z-Bo and Curry form is the Big Mac attack. These guys are constantly hasseled for being two of the most unathletic guys in the league. Neither are blockers, and neither play defense. The Knicks are going to have all sorts of talent in the low block with absolutely no defense.

Also, what does this mean for David Lee, the sophmore who in his second season averaged a double-double in under 30 minutes per game and had the leagues highest rebound per minute statistic. He doesn't have the skillset necessary to play the three. Is he now trade bait? He's too good to play for just 10-15 minutes a night. As well I don't think their are many teams that could match the asking price on a guy like Lee, since he's an oddity.

VeeKaChu
June 30th, 2007, 11:44 AM
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2752/noahel5.jpg

best draft shot of any major sports draft ever. best suit ever too.And for being the issue of a black french-cameroonian and a nordic blonde bombshell, an International tennis star and a former Miss Sweden, who was most-likely raised in the lap of luxury (or certainly didn't want for much growing up), it sure is funny to listen to him talk like an ignorant wigger.

There's already talk around the local sports radio that he didn't "miss" his first meeting with the press yesterday- now re-scheduled for Monday (3 days later)- so much as he was held back by the organization so they could rush him through a sort of "'Meet-the-press' finishing school". He's a potential embarrassment waiting to happen, everytime he opens his mouth- besides being a physical jerk.

Regarding his value to the team- some are scratching their heads (al'a Slic above), while others are pointing out that he makes the Bulls overall much stronger in the potential trades department during the imminent free-agency period.

stas
June 30th, 2007, 03:16 PM
arod, they took conley because he is the best PG in the draft? maybe?..many think he could have easily gone third.

disagree.

chi-town
June 30th, 2007, 04:02 PM
All he does is go to the basket.

so does tyrus tomas but the bulls dont count on him to do the scoring. the only thing this pick did was perhaps use him as bait in maybe a 3 man trade somewhere perhaps for gasol. he isn't what the bulls need, they have plenty of "energy" guys in tomas, wallace and gordon.

Telos
June 30th, 2007, 04:22 PM
<3 the sports guy

arod, they took conley because he is the best PG in the draft? maybe?..many think he could have easily gone third.

He is the best potential point guard in the draft...

...according to the experts. However, he was a freshman playing with a guy who will probably be one of the best centers in the league. I know that is also evaluating based on potential, but Oden has done more to prove himself than Conley has. Namely growing over 7 feet and being a pretty good player with one hand. Conley hasn't done much besides feed Oden the ball, which granted he has done well.

I guess the point is that you should go with proven success rather than potential success.

Magus
June 30th, 2007, 05:42 PM
you dont think developing an offensive game is a project? ;)

it's not developing. the guy is like 100 years old and has been playing the same way for a long time.

AGT-Shady
June 30th, 2007, 05:54 PM
I disagree about Conley, the only real knock on him is his shooting, and it's more shooting percentage and shot selection rather than clutch shooting, his clutch shooting is superb.

So really you have a proven winner, with leadership skills and blazing speed, that looks for his own shot AND gets his teammates involved, that has been able to knock down the clutch jumper. You can't teach almost any of that but you can (and in the NBA usually do) teach young guards how to shoot better, IMO he was the top PG available and am not surpised he went as high as he did, he honestly reminds me a lot of Billups when he first came in.

it's not developing. the guy is like 100 years old and has been playing the same way for a long time.

Splitter? I think you're forgetting he turned pro when he was like 15, the guy's only 22.

FaZe
July 2nd, 2007, 10:33 AM
conley is overrated, he won't do as well in the NBA, and hes going to get owned on the defensive end...I would have taken Acie Law. I could see Atlanta making the playoffs in the east now... Law/JJ/Smith/Horford/zaza with marvin williams and childress coming off the bench.

Magus
July 2nd, 2007, 02:49 PM
He's still been playing professionally for 6-7 years, and his offensive game has shown little signs of improvement.

He is now what he will always be, a solid defender/rebounder.

Vengeant
July 3rd, 2007, 09:51 AM
Big deal for Marist students and alumni...I think the last time this happened, it was with one of our only 3 'famous' alumni: Ric Smits (Pacers- the other 2 famous alumni are Bill O'Reilly and the guy from 1-800-Flowers...).

He went to the LA Clippers in the second round. Should be interesting to see how it works out- ESPN has called him the next John Stockton (Jazz) due to his amazing passing skills and good outside shot. He lead the team (Div. 1 MAAC conference) in assists all four years, shattering school records.

http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profiles/JaredJordan.html


Has anyone ever heard of him before? How do you think he'll fare?

hawk
July 3rd, 2007, 10:41 AM
Big deal for Marist students and alumni...

and not a big deal to everyone else. Great thread.

Scorcher
July 3rd, 2007, 11:07 AM
Yeah there is an NBA draft thread.

Sutterkane
July 3rd, 2007, 11:10 AM
second rounders generally end up lifetime bench players or in euro leagues

Capita
July 3rd, 2007, 11:25 AM
http://www.bullz-eye.com/sports/features/2006/nba_best_second_round_picks.htm
the best second-round picks since 1986