FF or TF2, my opinion thus far....

[sPloOsH]

I loved TFC, the game owned. I played it for 4 yrs and learned something new right up till the day I quit. The game had massive depth.

Now you have FF and TF2.

FF is rather easy for me because all the things I learned years ago are in this game....

TF2 is rather easy for me because the game is so simple...
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TF2 is a lot more fresh.

FF isn't quite fresh but not exactly stale yet either....
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TF2 is going to have a mega community full of new faces that are just waiting to be owned.

FF is looking pretty tiny with some old familiar faces (a good thing), but hardly as exciting to me.... so far.
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FF is buggy and won't be league worthy till January 08' - Don't kid yourself. I've played a few other mods like ETF (enemy territory fortress) and I can say that if FF survives till January with over 2000 people playing it'll be an accomplishment in itself...

TF2 will probably be playable right out of the "box." I crashed about 8 times in 20ish hrs of playing FF. No crashes in TF2 after about 10 hrs straight (yah i'm tired).
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With this information, what game do you want to invest time into?

Forget emotion and be realistic.

To me both games feel easy.... but there is one wild card, how will TF2 develop in leagues.

I've found some really cool stuff playing TF2 already (day 1).

-- Scout double jump gets you in a lot of interesting places.

-- Medic is pretty entertaining, might actually be necessary on O and D.

-- HW appears to dominate pubs, but I now can say with confidence, I think matches will be soldier driven (yay).

[primer]

hi my name is sploosh and i can get an airshot after trying 40 times.... el oh el zee


man i loved those computer wav file things back in the day. too funny

[Tone-Loc]

no shit! lol I found the first set of those ina zip file on an old hard drive the other day, when looking for our old IKK clan website.

Maybe I should post them up... they are hilarious... especially with the veterans returning these days to checkout FF/TF2.

hrmmmm....

[lockss]

well first of all, TF2 does seem quite simplitic, however, the depth is also there just like TFC... i rem pubbing back way before CNBL and i was a part of team dot, the top sniper guild/clan..... i went from that style play of sniper maps, to competiv play with teams... after NGW i stuck in there for some time and went to other clans.... i tryed playing other games to get that feeling i did while claning in TFC and could never get it, i got a gut feeling TF2is bringing that back for people like me :D FF just seems like the same old stuff... spawn Bhop back to your D spot, or bhop and conc jump back into the enemy base... dont get me wrong, it was fun when i was the only guy along with a hand full of others moving like that.... but now they got the bhop hacks..... like was in that CS hack ogc... ok so now everyone can move like i did with the mouse roll.... oh now lets make it so spys can take over sentry's and give scouts another OGC configure like wallhacks.... this will change it up..... :cool:

[primer]

no shit! lol I found the first set of those ina zip file on an old hard drive the other day, when looking for our old IKK clan website.

Maybe I should post them up... they are hilarious... especially with the veterans returning these days to checkout FF/TF2.

hrmmmm....

rofl dear god please send them to me tone. those made me cry back in the day.

"hi my name is massacre. actually i mean boost. i play for clan endgame. im new to the community, please be nice to me, because you are all my pawns"

lmao

[HotSoup]

Forget emotion and be realistic.

On Catacombs? lol?

I'm sorry I didn't add to the constructivity of this thread.

[primer]

On Catacombs? lol?

I'm sorry I didn't add to the constructivity of this thread.

its ok i never do

[sPloOsH]

I've never heard these .wavs? send em here !!!
:cool:

[Nightwish]

I have all of those .wavs still, I'll upload them when I get home.

[MassacrE]

rofl dear god please send them to me tone. those made me cry back in the day.

"hi my name is massacre. actually i mean boost. i play for clan endgame. im new to the community, please be nice to me, because you are all my pawns"

lmao

Who's this boost guy?

[sPloOsH]

sup mass :D

[hames]

i rem pubbing back way before CNBL and i was a part of team dot, the top sniper guild/clan.....

What was your dot name?

[advocate]

no shit! lol I found the first set of those ina zip file on an old hard drive the other day, when looking for our old IKK clan website.

Maybe I should post them up... they are hilarious... especially with the veterans returning these days to checkout FF/TF2.

hrmmmm....

wow IKK, man that brings back memories =)

edit: hey mass how's the kid doing? Everyone from NULL is still on mannoroth :P

[VisioN]

advocate

holla at a playa when you see him in the streets

lots of old school people popping in holy shit

[advocate]

advocate

holla at a playa when you see him in the streets

lots of old school people popping in holy shit

dude you stopped popping in on vent =(

[Cent]

TF2 ftw

[~A~]

I've never heard these .wavs? send em here !!!
:cool:

http://resurrection.nuclearfallout.net/Voices.zip

[Tone-Loc]

nice work... the macros one gets me everytime. that and cinder's "caption stealth boat"??? wtf?

[Bad Luck]

HW screaming after he gets a bunch of kills = win

[Dion]

hi my name is sploosh and i can get an airshot after trying 40 times.... el oh el zee


man i loved those computer wav file things back in the day. too funny

I had a good laugh from that :P

[primer]

http://resurrection.nuclearfallout.net/Voices.zip

for the love of god thank you. its been over 4 years since i heard those


ninja edit: rofl i forgot about the grifter one. so good. and fucking lol at slipknot

[PFSno]

Rofl we made those wavs so long ago im glad you found them.

Edit: someone in 404 made another set of them as well, i cant really remember who ill ask in the priv chan.

[Tone-Loc]

Rofl we made those wavs so long ago im glad you found them.

Edit: someone in 404 made another set of them as well, i cant really remember who ill ask in the priv chan.

Riiiigggghhhhtt.... like anyone would be stupid enough to click on any link that you post. Are you still trying to get people with that gay-ass photo? lol I liked it best when you were more random about it. Sometimes it was pretty funny.

[AO`]

I pretty much feel exactly as you do sploosh. I've played TFC since it first came out and it is by far the best game that I have ever played. Even after all of these years, I still dig the game, which is why I also like FF (it is essentially TFC). FF is pretty buggy right now, but if the devs continue to work on it, it will only get better. The problem, though, is that it is essentially a continuation of an already very old game. Yes, I still like TFC, but will I want to play a game just like it two years from now? I'm not sure. It also doesn't help that FF is essentially only getting TFC's player base, which isn't very big and isn't sure to last for another eight years. TF2, on the other hand, is so new and fresh that I can't see myself not playing this game. The player base is huge already (compared to that of TFC and FF) and we're not even in full release.

Though I like both games, I think I would rather invest more of my time in TF2, but I'm sure that I will in the very least play FF every now and then when I'm really missing my old TFC-based action.

[des]

If anyone has the rest of these, please post them. I'm pretty sure we did 2, maybe 3 of these packs. I specifically remember making one for neuro and kablammo, along with other various nerds.

[Nightwish]

The whole batch (I think). One of these may be a duplicate of the one Angel posted.

http://www.thegrandcross.net/files/voices1.zip

http://www.thegrandcross.net/files/voices2.zip

http://www.thegrandcross.net/files/voices3.zip

[Nightwish]

ROFL! "Hi, I'm Neuro, by the time you finish listening to this, I will have joined and left 3 clans, k."

[Zorro]

i hated tf2 at first but now i kind of like it... i want a tf2 with grensa and ctf :( they should make a mod for the mod!

[resyeK]

"but I cannot fit inside Texas"

lol

[primer]

haha look what i started. thx for the 3 packs! ive missed those over the years

[Smile]

Sentry guns need to be nerfed in both. I swear FF SGs track you faster when you conc past them then they do when you walk. Also I watched about 3 suddend eath matches so far that ended in stalemates becasue it came down to 3 engies vs 3 engies. FUN

[Pimpmaster 5000]

I'll be investing about 80% of my game-playing time into TF2, the other 20% will be invested in waiting to respawn.

[sPloOsH]

respawn timer doesnt bother me. You shouldnt be dying that often or you are playing wrong.

[Pimpmaster 5000]

definitely playing wrong. not a team player.

anyway, been a while, man. good to see you're still around.

[colin]

i think i'll forego both and try to find a good game

[sPloOsH]

good to see you pimpmaster, you should come to #teamdynasty you'll see a lot of familar faces :cool:

[Wonka]

definitely playing wrong. not a team player.

anyway, been a while, man. good to see you're still around.

holy shit! PM5K

[thrash_head]

I have the IKK website that What The Hell? made if that is the one your looking for tone.

[sPloOsH]

wonka you sexy beast, hook me up with some of that bling!! :D

[Pimpmaster 5000]

jesus, wonka too!

I'll stop by that channel soon, thanks.

[janordy]

Hi pimpy

[Paddyjack]

What bothers me a little about TF2 is the lack of grenades. Last night I was playing engi (as I used to do) and I was missing the feeling of a good EMP blast through the heavies.

Conc jumping was also fun to do, I will miss that.

Spy seems to be alot more fun now though.

[Tone-Loc]

I have the IKK website that What The Hell? made if that is the one your looking for tone.


Nah, I wasn't involved with that incarnation. Hell might want it though. He mentioned he had lost stuff, especially his flash files he created, but he may be missing that too. I'll tell him you have it.

Thanks!

[MERKiN-fS-]

This is an unedited convo between a friend of mine NOT from the TF* community.

[12:25] <D'DiN> they guy i was talking about wants me to do tf2 with him in league
[12:25] <D'DiN> but the more i play tf2
[12:25] <D'DiN> its like
[12:25] <D'DiN> doesn't seem to league friendly
[12:25] <D'DiN> theres one ctf map
[12:25] <D'DiN> they turned well into a control map
[12:25] <Fella|MERKiN> See DiN, thank you.
[12:25] <Fella|MERKiN> Thank you for that.
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> You NEVER played TFC league style
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> never played QWTF
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> QTF
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> whatever
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> all that shit
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> and even YOU see that
[12:26] <D'DiN> all the control maps are like
[12:26] <D'DiN> ninja scout cap
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> yeah
[12:26] <D'DiN> so I might just go pratice concing
[12:27] <D'DiN> and try to get in with you guys
[12:27] <D'DiN> I can't snipe and I can't rocket for shit
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> well u can learn
[12:27] <D'DiN> Can't really stand being a heavy since they are slow
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> people fit in diff places
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> well..
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> heavy's RAPE in FF
[12:27] <D'DiN> If i can get concing down i could be a pretty good runner I'd assume
[12:28] <D'DiN> Since I've been running flags with out that shit
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> yeah u just gotta learn the bunny hop
[12:28] <D'DiN> i'd help me scoop better and escape
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> well, we'll get you in some of our scrimmages
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> ill be like "let the hommie DiN play"
[12:28] <D'DiN> Its just funny now that i realize tf2 looks more like a cs
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> THANK YOU
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> OMFG
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> dude
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> wow
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> i love u
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> this dude i work with
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> he said
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> "I keep mistaking TF2 for CS

[Tone-Loc]

1. TF2 is still BETA.
2. Will 2Fort be the ONLY CTF map still? (obviously, its been stated that TF2 is predominately CP-based... but if it goes live with another 5 maps say, surely there would be at least 1 or 2 more CTF maps with them. Also, do we know that community made maps can't be made?)

Obviously FF is suited for leagueplay, it's TFC2k7... TFC + alot of tweaks and some new features, etc... but I think its pretty early to make a judgement on TF2's leagueplayability. If anything, the sheer size of the player base (as it looks now), will probably make it a viable league format, wouldn't it?

[sPloOsH]

This is an unedited convo between a friend of mine NOT from the TF* community.

[12:25] <D'DiN> they guy i was talking about wants me to do tf2 with him in league
[12:25] <D'DiN> but the more i play tf2
[12:25] <D'DiN> its like
[12:25] <D'DiN> doesn't seem to league friendly
[12:25] <D'DiN> theres one ctf map
[12:25] <D'DiN> they turned well into a control map
[12:25] <Fella|MERKiN> See DiN, thank you.
[12:25] <Fella|MERKiN> Thank you for that.
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> You NEVER played TFC league style
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> never played QWTF
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> QTF
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> whatever
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> all that shit
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> and even YOU see that
[12:26] <D'DiN> all the control maps are like
[12:26] <D'DiN> ninja scout cap
[12:26] <Fella|MERKiN> yeah
[12:26] <D'DiN> so I might just go pratice concing
[12:27] <D'DiN> and try to get in with you guys
[12:27] <D'DiN> I can't snipe and I can't rocket for shit
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> well u can learn
[12:27] <D'DiN> Can't really stand being a heavy since they are slow
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> people fit in diff places
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> well..
[12:27] <Fella|MERKiN> heavy's RAPE in FF
[12:27] <D'DiN> If i can get concing down i could be a pretty good runner I'd assume
[12:28] <D'DiN> Since I've been running flags with out that shit
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> yeah u just gotta learn the bunny hop
[12:28] <D'DiN> i'd help me scoop better and escape
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> well, we'll get you in some of our scrimmages
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> ill be like "let the hommie DiN play"
[12:28] <D'DiN> Its just funny now that i realize tf2 looks more like a cs
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> THANK YOU
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> OMFG
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> dude
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> wow
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> i love u
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> this dude i work with
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> he said
[12:28] <Fella|MERKiN> "I keep mistaking TF2 for CS

I want my 2 minutes back.

A guy that doesn't know anything about fortress games is going to explain why TF2 can't succeed in league play.

**********
speaking of TF2 being like cs:s, we scrimmed a pro cs team in TF2 (ksharp's group), score was 6-1 in 2 rd's of 2fort. i'm playing the wrong game, i need to be making a salary playing cs!

[saa]

about once every two months or so I'll throw apoc's wav in her face. and now's probably as good a time as any.

[Cent]

The CP maps are alot more fun than CTF, in my opinion.

[AO`]

1. TF2 is still BETA.
2. Will 2Fort be the ONLY CTF map still? (obviously, its been stated that TF2 is predominately CP-based... but if it goes live with another 5 maps say, surely there would be at least 1 or 2 more CTF maps with them. Also, do we know that community made maps can't be made?)

Obviously FF is suited for leagueplay, it's TFC2k7... TFC + alot of tweaks and some new features, etc... but I think its pretty early to make a judgement on TF2's leagueplayability. If anything, the sheer size of the player base (as it looks now), will probably make it a viable league format, wouldn't it?

I've read that TF2 will be as customizable as TFC (i.e. map, model, etc creation).

[Wyrm]

I stumbled across this thread and felt compelled to reminisce about the voice wavs. I guess this is a good time a time as any to out myself as the creator of the 3rd batch of those things. I was in 404 when I made them and they were based heavily on inside jokes between 404 and PF at the time. Fortunately, a lot of them still hold up today.

I checked the date on the originals and they're from March 2002, towards the end of the peak years for TFC, so they got passed around more than Neuro. I used to have the link we used for them as well - it was an AT&T Voice Reader site where you could type in anything and convert it to a wav file.

In any event, I'm glad someone remembered them. I listened to them again and probably laughed just as hard at them now as I did back then.

[bravE]

The WMK one made me lol.

[VERSE]

wonka u should photoshop some grillz to ur sig pimp

[StryKuuR]

I stumbled across this thread and felt compelled to reminisce about the voice wavs. I guess this is a good time a time as any to out myself as the creator of the 3rd batch of those things. I was in 404 when I made them and they were based heavily on inside jokes between 404 and PF at the time. Fortunately, a lot of them still hold up today.

I checked the date on the originals and they're from March 2002, towards the end of the peak years for TFC, so they got passed around more than Neuro. I used to have the link we used for them as well - it was an AT&T Voice Reader site where you could type in anything and convert it to a wav file.

In any event, I'm glad someone remembered them. I listened to them again and probably laughed just as hard at them now as I did back then.

WyoM

[LiquidNi|BSO|`A]

rofl @ the .wav files

[FrostWave]

whats HW i have TF2 never played it yet because i dont have a vid card yet and i dont know what HW is. if u can tell me thx.

[Micr0n]

whats HW i have TF2 never played it yet because i dont have a vid card yet and i dont know what HW is. if u can tell me thx.

oh man, Im being trolled.

[Vr_]

yay, post resurrection!!